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03-09-2017, 08:16 PM | #14301 |
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Wow. This is a doozy.
This may come as a big surprise to people who keep track of my opinions (which, um, would be no one), but despite being someone who generally dislikes most Rider movies, and also Kiva, I...I actually kind of liked Kamen Rider Kiva: King Man of the Demon World Castle Thing Place. Yeah, I know. So, it's obviously non-canon nonsense that doesn't even begin to fit into the continuity of the show in any fashion, but once you get past that, I find very little to dislike. It felt to me to at least have some semblance of self-consistency, at least enough so to not take me out of the movie most of the time. There were some pretty stupid/unexplained elements, mainly Rey's whole part in the story and Arc's belt just popping up out of nowhere, but like, as Kiva shit goes this felt more business as usual than something deal-breaking. Compared to Tatsulot never being addressed in like, 30 episodes, this was pretty much the smallest peanuts. Other than that, this movie felt like it had everything, by which I mean, in a large way, that it had nothing. No Mio, no Maya, no Taiga, no stupid fucking love triangle garbage anywhere in sight. I'd almost forgotten it was possible to tell stories about Kiva without that crap. It was really refreshing. So perhaps it wasn't really a super compelling tale, but hell, I'm just thankful to have anything Kiva that doesn't even bring to mind triangular shapes. And the humor kinda worked for me, sometimes. I haven't even seen Den-O but the "Ore? Sanjou" line got a good chuckle out of me. And Arc-bat going "Go to hell" was frankly just too incredible for words. Speaking of which, Arc is really cool. Didn't even mind when the last fight turned into a PS1 cutscene either. So yeah, I dunno. Maybe someone slipped something into my drink or I'm going senile early or something. It probably really is an awful movie, but what the hell, I enjoyed it. |
03-09-2017, 10:49 PM | #14302 |
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That was Momotaros's voice actor. All four of the Imagin voice actors had cameos in the film where they put in spins of their catch phrases. This was back when Toei was working Den-O into everything they could.
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03-09-2017, 10:54 PM | #14303 |
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03-09-2017, 11:15 PM | #14304 |
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Either way, at least I don't feel like I wasted that last hour I spent on Kiva, which is something. Ah. That makes sense. I'm not as familiar with the other Imagin's catchphrases, so I couldn't catch those. Though looking them up...yeah, I definitely remember Ryutaros's "I can't hear you" thing popping up at some point, at least. |
03-10-2017, 10:30 AM | #14305 |
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I don't remember where all the others were; the cameos are literally the only parts of that movie I've seen. I do know that Rina Akiyama (Naomi) was a traffic cop.
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03-10-2017, 04:05 PM | #14306 |
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Hm. Well. This is something.
Super-1 episode 24. So this doesn't have anything to do with anything, but I'll just say I hate how XIG handled familial honorifics. "Sister Masako" my ass. There are ways to translate these things without making it sound like the characters are in some sort of religious order! Anyway, so there's no addressing of what happened to the Sincere Fist school in this one, which is disappointing. Other than that, the episode does reference and concern the events that just went down at the end of the last arc, which is nice. And the new arc brings with it changes, most of which I thought I was cool with, until...Junior Rider Squad. I think I vaguely recall reading that this was going to be a thing, but had completely forgotten. In any case, I am all sorts of not into this. And I was so optimistic about this show after the last arc ended so strongly. Will see I guess. Though I think I have some idea of what's going on. New ending theme is lame too. |
03-10-2017, 04:40 PM | #14307 |
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Just finished Ghost The Movie - 100 Eyecons and Ghost's Moment of Truth.
Meh. If you ever did not want to have to sit through all 49 episodes of Ghost, just watch this movie and you will still get the same effect. Also, I now think there needs to be a crossover between Ghost and KyuRanger, just to see who would yell louder Onari or Lucky.
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03-10-2017, 09:47 PM | #14308 |
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The Next was even more bizarre and directionless than The First! The most entertaining part to me was probably the scene at the beginning of someone applying a very gratuitous amount of mayonnaise to their food, just because of the "Is that you Kosuke!?" reaction it got out of me. I thought it was sort of cool that they tried to make the Double Riders' suits more weathered looking, but it didn't look quite right to me, and it took me until almost until the end of the movie to realize that one of the kaijin was Buzzsaw-Lizard from V3 since they decided to upgrade her to a chainsaw for... reasons. The plot made barely any sense though, and there was a lot that was just left unexplained. A pretty hot mess all around.
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03-10-2017, 09:50 PM | #14309 |
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Just watched the Ghost movie myself. It was... good? Just mediocre?
I'm not really sure, actually. I mean, for the most part it's a fine enough film. The only thing I ever really expect out of a Rider movie is some nice over-budgeted action, and it delivered that much. A coherent and/or interesting story is something I consider a bonus at that point and this one is like, 90% there. It's really frustrating. For one, the movie's biggest strength is also a glaring flaw. The concepts presented here are all really neat. Too neat. Neat enough it sort of feels like they REALLY could've used some of this stuff to fill out the quarter or so of the actual show that was airing when this came out. A quarter that, as I definitely don't need to explain to anyone but am going to anyway, was full of "filler" MotW plots loosely strung together by an ongoing plot that seemed to be on vacation most of the time. The stuff with Makoto's dad especially is just BEGGING to be brought up in the show more. The series made it clear early on that Takeru's dad was a surrogate parent to him and delving into why that is would've probably been a way better method to keep Makoto interesting than a plot thread about an evil clone that, even though I think the payoff ended up being good, spent most of its time just sort of being a thing that was happening. As it is, his daddy issues got brought up once or twice in throwaway lines specifically to tie in to the movie just before it came out. Again, this movie is frustrating. The stuff with Dark Ghost can stay here fine enough though. He's a cool character with an interesting backstory and a consistent presence throughout the film, and his evil plan ties into the themes of Ghost well enough. I think he works better here than he would've in the series, especially since the show already had a bad guy with a big evil plan. But as for the movie itself, I think it's a pretty dang solid story as these things go right up until the climax. It doesn't make much sense. And if I'm saying something in Ghost doesn't make much sense, that's not a good sign. So first of all, the big crux of the ending is that Dark Ghost's plan involves using Takeru's body. There's only one problem with that: Takeru didn't leave a corpse. Now given that the movie's primary setting is some weird pocket-dimension place, this might actually be explicable, but if it is, the film sure wasn't interested in explaining it. It doesn't help that the whole purpose of this is simply to once again kill Takeru (who by the point of the series this takes place had basically already transcended death, so...), leading to another sappy scene when he inevitably comes back. Normally I'd be all over that but much like how the way it happens is confusing the way he comes back is kind of vague and weird. The only thing I can tell you is that the Heroes did it. So yeah, basically the movie's connection to the show is what's hurting it more than anything. Taken as its own thing, maybe these wouldn't be huge issues, but it simply doesn't have that luxury.
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03-11-2017, 01:16 AM | #14310 |
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Man, if even Fish Sandwich doesn't like the Ghost movie it must be a letdown.
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