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01-01-2022, 09:04 PM | #201 |
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Two things!
First, it's only Rinko who's called out as being always great in the subsequent parenthetical, which means that, by omission, I am saying that Shunpei is only great in these two episodes of Wizard. Second, Shunpei's actor is legitimately funny, as witnessed in all of the non-canon Net-Movies, and AU stuff like this. The key detail is that these are all variations on Shunpei's normal character. I still find Shunpei's character to be incredibly irritating in the actual Wizard show. If anything, I find it more frustrating because the actor is clearly better than the material on the show! I can sort of see it now, but I don't think it ever occurred to me on either viewing. Just felt like an AU Haruto.
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01-01-2022, 09:27 PM | #202 |
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Anyway, I find myself appreciating these two episodes more with time. I originally watched them right after Wizard's actual finale, which I thought (and still think!) ended on a great note, and even knowing the whole Basically A Decade Two-Parter thing going in, it still needed some distance I wasn't giving it. I'd give my overall opinion on it, but, uh, yeah, it's just the same one I give to most Decade two-parters. Very fun, cute little story; probably not to something to analyze too deeply, yet also weirdly clever in its meta themes in spite of that.
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01-01-2022, 09:34 PM | #203 |
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Anyway, I find myself appreciating these two episodes more with time. I originally watched them right after Wizard's actual finale, which I thought (and still think!) ended on a great note, and even knowing the whole Basically A Decade Two-Parter thing going in, it still needed some distance I wasn't giving it. I'd give my overall opinion on it, but, uh, yeah, it's just the same one I give to most Decade two-parters. Very fun, cute little story; probably not to something to analyze too deeply, yet also weirdly clever in its meta themes in spite of that.
The thing is, finally being fluent in Decade's very specific storytelling decisions had me getting on this story's wavelength to a much greater degree. When I could only see the Decadeness of it, I appreciated what it was trying to say about Wizard, both as a show and as a character. ...Of course, watching a previous series shouldn't necessarily be a prerequisite for enjoying a current one, especially in a franchise that's normally as siloed by seasons as Kamen Rider is, so I don't begrudge anyone who wanted more of Kamen Rider Wizard's narrative in their Kamen Rider Wizard episodes. For me, I liked the mix of styles, no pun intended.
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01-01-2022, 11:55 PM | #204 |
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I think this special was the first time I was introduced to the concept of Kamen Rider's "fighting for humanity's freedom" rather than being straight-up Heroes of Justice (I hadn't watched the OG yet) which feels like a very Sho Aikawa concept to explore.
Also it was just really cool seeing all the Final Forms getting their licks in on the Big bad in the final fight. |
01-02-2022, 12:08 AM | #205 |
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Also, I love that Tsukasa gave the big hero speech instead of Haruto, because Tsukasa always has to upstage the main protagonists of a story and deliver the moral instead of them. ALWAYS! It's his Final Form Ride!
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01-02-2022, 06:37 AM | #206 |
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This is a Decade story. It?s 100% a Kamen Rider Decade two-parter, just produced three years later. It?s a story about Wizard?s themes and conflicts ? hope, despair, Koyomi being worthless to the story and always in need of rescue ? but shuffled, rearranged. It?s even got Tsukasa and a kid version of a Rider, so it?s not exactly being subtle about what it?s doing. (Decade flat-out says that this is the World of Wizard!) It?s about using Haruto?s personal growth to help a different Rider overcome a thematically-similar trauma. There?s a gigantic Rider War-esque finale! Just? new Decade episodes, man. YES. Oof, shots fired.
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01-02-2022, 09:22 AM | #207 |
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It was real neat watching these special episodes cause I did always like Tsukasa, so since I watched these after my initial binges of various Riders and catching up with Wizard before Gaim I had ended up loving how Tsukasa showed up again.
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01-02-2022, 10:48 AM | #208 |
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When I first got into Kamen Rider, I first watched Gaim purely out of intrigue for the completely bonkers idea of spandex warriors who transform using fruit. Binged watched that whole show in the span of a month (was one crazy ride, I'll tell you that) before deciding to watch Wizard next. So when it came to the Decade two-parter I knew absolutely NOTHING about Decade so it was a strange experience for me. I definitely appreciate the episodes a bit more now, but yeah it was strange to be suddenly introduced to a Rider I had no prior experience with.
Tsukasa just doing his whole Tsukasa thing, complete with a fake heel turn. It's adorable!
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01-02-2022, 10:51 AM | #209 |
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I'm going to be real with you all here. This was one of my favorite arcs in Wizard.
It has a nice setup, especially considering how I kind of see Tsukasa and Haruto being a little similar, Gaim gets introduced in a very un-Gaim-ly way, and yet I loved it. I kind of figured the kid was a proto-Haruto for having a damsel by the name of Koyomi, but mainly when Tsukasa said: "So this is Wizard's world?" It's also funny how the Legend Rider Rings are basically DiEnd's Rider Summons, and how up to this point he's met every Heisei Rider after his show (except maybe OOO, though I haven't seen Let's Go! All Riders! yet, sooo...). I will also proclaim here, that I don't dislike Shunpei. He's an earnest, almost endearing kind of klutz, but not someone I have any major ire towards, in fact, I actually find him quite likable, despite how he could definitely have done better. I really should find time to watch those Net Movies. That and just seeing every Rider together, along with their Final Forms (why did they give Kuuga Rising Ultimate, when it's AR Kuuga's Final Form, and therefore not an official Final Form!? I could care less about Super TaToBa, but that's because it's still an Eiji OOO form), is always fun. Sure, the Villain is kind of lame, but I guess that adds to his charm? Anyway, this was a nice way for Gaim to get introduced, since his show is nothing like what he's presented as here, which just makes it all the more interesting when people see Gaim afterwards. |
01-02-2022, 12:24 PM | #210 |
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So, Aikawa once shared the funny story behind Decade?s inclusion in this. When he started writing, he was told he could only have one returning Rider for the 15th anniversary of Heisei Rider and the producer would only let him have Kuuga (which was impossible, since Odagiri is not only super successful, but also has very specific conditions that Toei cannot meet for returning) or Fourze (which would be redundant, since they?d had a crossover a few months ago). And then the producer said ?Or we could bring back Decade.?
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