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05-03-2018, 12:23 PM | #21 |
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I dunno, I think Moonlight Mask is worth mentioning. It might not have had as pronounced of an impact as Kamen Rider, but it certainly laid the groundwork for toku heroes as we know them.
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05-03-2018, 12:53 PM | #22 |
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I do agree. Something may be not be relevant to today's world, but still be important to history and should not be forgotten. If I put up a timeline of important toku, it could be like this.
1954 - Godzilla (May not be the first Toku ever, but it did help create Toku that we know today) 1958 - Gekko Kamen (The first TV superhero in Japan and help create the toku tropes that we know today) 1966 - Ultraman 1971 - Kamen Rider 1975 - Goranger 1992 - Zyuranger 1993 - MMPR 1995 - Juukou B-Fighter (As mention before from someone else) Quote:
It actually did neither of these things. I mean, it definitely made them more popular than ever before, but both things had existed in the US before Power Rangers. You had the Dynaman joke dubs in the mainland as well as Goranger and Battle Fever J being aired in Hawaii. Ultraman and Ultra Seven were also widely broadcast throughout the US.
MMPR help create a new audience for Toku, but you had fans way before MMPR even existed. Kamen Rider and Sentai had many fan sub tapes in the 80's and 90's that would people would watch.
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05-03-2018, 05:29 PM | #23 |
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It actually did neither of these things. I mean, it definitely made them more popular than ever before, but both things had existed in the US before Power Rangers. You had the Dynaman joke dubs in the mainland as well as Goranger and Battle Fever J being aired in Hawaii. Ultraman and Ultra Seven were also widely broadcast throughout the US.
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05-04-2018, 09:24 AM | #24 |
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So here's a bit of a question, if you had to put one or more 21st century toku on this list which would you pick?
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05-04-2018, 09:53 AM | #25 |
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I’d say the Japanese Spider-man show was pretty important, since that’s the reason Sentai has mecha, and said mecha was part of the reason Sentai got so popular when it was rebranded as “Super Sentai”
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05-09-2018, 03:34 PM | #26 |
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Primarily stuff like Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider, and Goranger. There's also Android Kikaider and Space Sheriff Gavan to somewhat of a lesser extent.
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05-09-2018, 08:53 PM | #27 |
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See, I don't necessarily agree with this. The question wasn't "what is the first toku?", it was "Most important toku?". While the things you list certainly predate the likes of Godzilla and Ultraman, they aren't things that people remember the medium for.
To put it into a different context: - Which is the most important character Walt Disney created and in animation in general? Oswald the Lucky Rabbit or Mickey Mouse? I do think older toku like Gekko Kamen and Golden Bat do have important history to them on how Toku is today. They should get respect and not be forgotten.
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05-09-2018, 11:27 PM | #28 |
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I know this is a old post, but I do feel like the first of it's kind should be label as being important. You could say the same for anime & manga by saying Tetsujin 28 (Gigantor) is not important to Anime & Manga history seeing how other Mecha series like Magaziner Z, Getter Robo and Gundam made it into the medium that it is today. Despite the fact that Tetsujin 28 help inspired those series in the first place (There would be no Mazinger Z and Getter Robo if Tetsujin 28 never existed because Go Nagai grew up with Tetsujin 28 as a young boy).
I do think older toku like Gekko Kamen and Golden Bat do have important history to them on how Toku is today. They should get respect and not be forgotten. A show like Star Trek could be considered important, as could something like Doctor Who as well as Tetsujin 28, as they were concepts relatively unexplored in the public eye, only really seen in short stories for a niche audience. But with the golden age of heroes booming in comic books, a show like Gekko Kamen isn't important besides the fact that it was the first out of the gate. There was always going to be a toku hero show, even if Gekko Kamen didn't exist.
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05-10-2018, 09:19 AM | #29 |
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From what I have seen, a lot of the 50's and 60's Toku have help create the tropes today. So I can see why Gekko Kamen, Golden Bat and Space Giants have important parts of history in Toku. I do agree that it would be ignorant to ignore them. I learn in film school that not to throw away the past.
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05-10-2018, 06:49 PM | #30 |
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I feel like MMPR to Toku is like how Toonami was to Anime. It help introduced Toku a new group of people, but you did had a fandom long before 1993. Without MMPR, this website (and other websites) and modern fan subbers would probably not exist. So I'm glad that we have that. However it does bug me a lot that people think of Toku as people in spandex and that's it.
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