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05-30-2018, 12:50 PM | #21 |
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I’m pretty sure the “Marxism” he’s referring to isn’t economic. The principles can also be applied through a lens of general social interaction. I’ve also told you this elsewhere that the soy thing is just a modern iteration of “stupid hippie vegans” more than anything.
Also it’s not a popular art style. It is a falsely popular art style, not authentically popular and you only see it everywhere because you see it everywhere and people assume that it’s popular just because you see it everywhere. It’s like musicals in the 1970s. Those weren’t really popular, those were just friggin everywhere and creating such a glut that the industry started to choke. CalArts Face is like the Minion clone, it gets mistaken for popular and treated as popular just because it’s everywhere. When in reality, it’s only about as popular as malaria was during the Groningen epidemic.
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05-30-2018, 01:22 PM | #22 |
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By 'popular' I mean "Cartoon Network's most successful current shows use it and will continue to use it as long as it remains as successful as it is". No conspiracy theory about it, it's using what CN knows has been working for them. You could see this in the 2000's with Warner Bros/Hannah Barbara having multiple franchises get baby themed spin off shows, it's the exact same scenario. Why are people too stupid to notice this?
Although if you want conspiracy theories, I would happily blame this on academia and it’s modernist/post-modernist approach to art declaring a toothbrush jammed into a styrofoam ball as worthy of praise and admiration. Or that flying buttresses are a waste of effort when you can just make 6 sterile concrete slabs and stick them together into one boring utilitarian mess. |
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05-30-2018, 01:41 PM | #23 |
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That’s what I’m saying. It’s not good, it’s not genuinely popular. It is an artistic pandemic.
Although if you want conspiracy theories, I would happily blame this on academia and it’s modernist/post-modernist approach to art declaring a toothbrush jammed into a styrofoam ball as worthy of praise and admiration. Or that flying buttresses are a waste of effort when you can just make 6 sterile concrete slabs and stick them together into one boring utilitarian mess.
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05-30-2018, 01:46 PM | #24 |
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Again, it works and it's just the current fad. CN has no reason not to use it until it proves to stop working. I don't like it either and admittedly got rather mad at the Ben 10 one. I got over it though as I started thinking of the company perspective. Plus the Ben 10 reboot was actually very well written apparently. If the show turns out to actually be well written, what are you guys who threw a fit gonna do?
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05-30-2018, 02:01 PM | #25 |
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No, the reason it keeps happening is because it's getting them good ratings. I literally am not doing that cause I don't even know if my TV even has CN anymore. Granted, Netherlands so it wouldn't make an impact either way I think but you get the point. Want them to not keep doing that? Try to convince people not to watch it then. If it stops being successful, it will stop happening
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No, the reason it keeps happening is because it's getting them good ratings. I literally am not doing that cause I don't even know if my TV even has CN anymore. Granted, Netherlands so it wouldn't make an impact either way I think but you get the point. Want them to not keep doing that? Try to convince people not to watch it then. If it stops being successful, it will stop happening
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05-30-2018, 02:58 PM | #27 |
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They're creating the product and doing it like that because it works. If the show gets good ratings, which it likely will, why should they bother? The angry minority isn't as important as the people who actually watch the show. TV Business 101
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05-30-2018, 05:29 PM | #28 |
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Well, I think I'll give this show a shot. Never saw the original nor the 2011 reboot.
Everything looked manly in the 90's. There were a lot of Japanese-influenced shows in the early 2000's. The new "fad" for the current era is cute, rounded, and colorful character designs. And it works- from what I hear, allowing for more fluid animation. And to be honest, I don't mind it. It looks cute. And I need more comedy in my life. I'll give it a try for a season or two, since that's when most new shows (Steven Universe, SVTFOE, Gravity Falls, Miraculous Ladybug, etc.) get their bearings straight. Please don't burn me alive. |
05-30-2018, 05:35 PM | #29 |
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As long as they have plushies of the characters out some time after the show is on air and generate enough funny moments, play ball. Would I still like a season 2 of Anime Thundercats 2011? Yes. But after seeing the trailer I am interested. If it tanks it tanks but until then I will give it the benefit of the doubt.
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It’s the business model of Illumination Entertainment and Sony Pictures. Make a cheap can’t make it quick, appeal to the lowest common denominator. This is why the entertainment must be challenged. What “works” should not work. For what “works” is lazy. Lego brings in big bucks with licensed sets. But guess what? There is an ungodly glut of liscensed sets. There is nothing but stagnation. The toy brand based on creativity and fresh ideas and being different is now the same as everything else. How about Transformers? Everything they are doing is just G1 over and over and over again. And half the brand is pointless awful gimmick toys that clog shelves. But hey, “it works!” And let’s not forget Nickelodeon Power Rangers. How all the content was boiled down to garbage, bathroom humor and very basic plots with no characterization and one cut filming. So do Super “seasons.” I guess that’s perfectly OK and it should not be challenged! Things should not just “work.” Art should not just “work.” You can make a comedic spin on an old 80s cartoon that takes the piss out of it. That’s fine, the problem is that it is being done with such a horrifically lazy art style. Every single Twitter artist doing their own redesign that still keeps the goofy cartoonish vibe isn’t freaking out over ThunderCats getting a comedic cartoon, they are showing disgust with the lazy, ugly, stale art direction. |
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