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10-17-2019, 11:09 PM | #15571 |
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The best aspect of Faiz was the writer very obviously wanted a gay relationship in the show and Toei not letting him(Yuuji and Takumi).
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10-18-2019, 04:31 AM | #15572 |
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I wrote a post yesterday, but then it got tagged for "a review by moderator" and never actually appeared (the third time it happened since I joined the forum ). Too lengthy/spoiler-y I suppose? I'll just keep it shorter and simpler then...
Decade 16-17: Kabuto’s world. Not bad, not exactly that great or memorable either. I found that I can enjoy Decade better when I take each story arc as your typical ‘KR Mystery/Drama of the week’, and just forget about the overarching plotline and whether the world-building in each parallel world makes sense or not (they never do). Faiz 5-6: Love the char development here, and how Takumi gradually opens up to both Mari and Keitaro. I can tell that I’m likely going to enjoy the camaraderie between these three for the rest of the show. The Orpnoch trio has also been shaping up nicely, and I like how the show dedicate just as much screen time to them as the protags. The action scene is still nothing to write home about, but the Robobike scene at least is totally awesome and unexpected for me. I agree about what Fish Sandwich said about the atmosphere and chemistry. Too bad about the subs, tho. Faiz really did a lot in the early episodes, more than most other KR shows, if we’re talking character set-up and meaningful plot advancement. It’s very noticeably character-driven to a fault though, and lacks the flash + fun factor of modern Rider series, so I can totally see why it’s not going to be a lot of fans’ cup of tea. |
10-18-2019, 06:43 AM | #15573 |
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Re-watching Hibiki as of the moment. I'm at episode 28, one episode away from the infamous staff change. When I first watched Hibiki I wasn't aware of the change so I thought that the second half was how it was supposed to be. So I never had a problem with the latter part of Hibiki unlike most people in this forum. Though I did hate Kiriya. Now I wonder if I'll feel differently about it knowing of the change that took place behind the scenes.
And speaking of Hibiki, I got to give credit to the actor and actress playing the douji and hime. They make sure to make each douji/hime pair as unique as possible. From acting a little goofy to being dead serious they played their parts well.
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10-18-2019, 04:35 PM | #15574 |
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Re-watching Hibiki as of the moment. I'm at episode 28, one episode away from the infamous staff change. When I first watched Hibiki I wasn't aware of the change so I thought that the second half was how it was supposed to be. So I never had a problem with the latter part of Hibiki unlike most people in this forum. Though I did hate Kiriya. Now I wonder if I'll feel differently about it knowing of the change that took place behind the scenes.
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10-18-2019, 05:12 PM | #15575 |
Showa Girl
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Just finished Episode 13; surprised at just how long the Kaixa introduction took.
The main takeaway I have is that Takumi, in the middle of a fairly normal conversation, just out of nowhere said "Well, take care you don't get kicked by a horse and die". It was just-- so extremely raw for no reason and I kinda love it. ... nothing else of note. My favourite Riders so far are Auto Vajin and Horse Orphenoch. |
10-18-2019, 08:14 PM | #15576 |
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Faiz 5-6:
I don't think I have a whole lot to mention about these ones, even though I quite enjoyed them. My main takeaway was that I'm impressed to find out Keitarou is a way better character than I remember. Watching the show again, it's blowing my mind a little how much it actually isn't treating him like a joke the way I always remembered it. There have been several notable instances just in the four episodes he's been in so far where he genuinely gets through to Takumi, and managing that even once would be no small feat. Speaking of good ol' Takkun, I'm still really, really in love with the dynamic he and Mari have. They're both huge jerks, and somewhat distressingly unscrupulous, and you couldn't ask for a better display of both than the scene in 6 where Takumi lays out his plan to mug Yuuji for an ID badge to get into Smart Brain, singling him out as a target because he "looks weak", followed by Mari eagerly agreeing with Takumi's assessment, much to his surprise. They're trying to break into his car in their next scene, of course. I mean... wow. Look, I don't know how clearly I can describe this, because it's sort of a complex feeling, but, uh, how do I put it? I like Takkun and Mari, and I like that they're jerks, but I don't like them because they're jerks? Does that get it across at all? If this was how they behaved 24/7 this show would be unbearable, but they've both got layers beyond that, and the show keeps them sympathetic by being sure to also constantly demonstrate, in ways both subtle and obvious, that they're actually pretty good-natured people in spite of all this. Again, it's complex. Besides, they needed that ID card! It's right in the theme song! The end justifaid the means, people! Also, these subs are just miserable. I try not to bang on about this stuff too much, but the name Agony is turning out to be appropriate considering how heartbreaking it is to still see so many mistakes left in, and then this gem, where a series-critical scene of Takumi opening up about his biggest fear has him contradicting himself a couple lines apart in a way so obvious simply from context you shouldn't need to know Japanese to figure out what's wrong: What's important to note is that TV-Nihon actually didn't mess that first line up, so I'm baffled how this could've even happened. I feel like I'm going insane. I'm trying to keep track of all these errors, which are piling up at an alarming rate, going back and forth between two different sub groups, and there's just no hope in sight. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to prove here. I don't want to oversell it and say Faiz is secretly some superbly written work of genius underneath all this, but I swear, it's not this dumb. W 5-6: Thankfully, a little Double is more than enough to brighten my mood back up. I don't have a lot to say about this set of episodes, either, though. It's good, but after the last arc was firing on all cylinders the way it was, this one can't help but feel slightly less entertaining. Of course, this is Double, so "less entertaining" still means "hugely entertaining". One general observation I have is that I like the way Shoutarou gets to use the Memory Gadgets to do cool detective stuff. Giving him those opportunities to earn some action hero street cred without transforming helps sell the genre tone the show is going for. Any fictional private investigator worth their salt needs to be able to get out of some tight spots, and Shoutarou proves he can do that without reaching for his belt right away.
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10-19-2019, 04:59 AM | #15577 |
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But the thing is I remember liking the Shuki arc.
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10-19-2019, 03:55 PM | #15578 |
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Faiz 7-8:
These episodes form what I'd consider the ending to the first "arc" of the show, more or less, and are some of my favorites from the whole series. Going back to it, it's nice to find out how well they hold up. This is an extremely strong story with boatloads of development for several of the main characters, a ton of examination of the show's central themes, and that artsy climax where Faiz and Yuuji are fighting their respective opponents to the soft sound of classical guitar music. You just can't go wrong here. I can't stress enough just how strong the characterization is, though. There's a ton of little plotlines all perfectly intertwining with one another to maximum dramatic effect. It's mostly centered on Kaidou, since he's the new guy, and the arc he has here, where he gradually starts to get over his trauma after bonding with a student at the university he used to go, culminating in him throwing away his guitar at the end, freed of his "curse", is just aces. A+ material from Inoue and a shining example of why melodrama isn't inherently a bad thing. The other half of the story is about Mari trying to work towards her dream of becoming a beautician, and while it's not remarkable the way Kaidou's plot is, it's still pretty good and serves to further humanize her quite a bit. The part that elevates these episodes even more is that both of these threads are also used to further develop Takumi and Yuuji. Both of them cement the kind of characters they're going to be here, with Yuuji doing some meditation on what it really means to be a monster, and Takumi starting to find some purpose in life. I'm all over this kind of parallel storytelling, and I especially love the way the central message about dreams is handled. The rather cynical Takkun learns to be a little more idealistic after hearing Mari talk about what it's like to have that kind of passion, and the generally quite idealistic Yuuji, after Kaidou frames pretty much the same thought in a much more negative light, has some of his optimism crushed by the end. Great stuff all around. Unlike the subs for this show. Yeah, on second thought, I'm going to keep complaining about this, because every pair of episodes gives me like at least seven glaring mistakes to choose from. I want people to get an idea of how bad this situation truly is. I'll compromise a bit and try to only mention one per post. Hopefully you can all stand to indulge me. ということで~、ファイズ翻訳ミスコーナーです~!今日の翻訳ミスはこれだ! 「今ではあのベルトを狙うことは禁止されているんですよ。」 This mistake, originally made by TV-Nihon and imported into Agony's scrub almost entirely unchanged, is a fabulous example of a surprisingly standard translation error. The "accidentally backwards statement". Just like the line I complained about last time, the translator either misheard some words, or made some mistaken assumptions about what was being said. It was established right at the start of episode 5 when the gang got to Tokyo that Smart Brain isn't currently going after the Faiz Gear, and Smart Lady is reminding an Orphenoch targeting Mari of this fact. I assume the confusion was a result of the Orphenoch in question completely ignoring this reminder, but regardless of the reason, botching this makes it sound like the bad guys are up to something they currently aren't. W 7-8: Nothing like an utterly inconsequential, kind of dumb arc of Double to wind down with. Well, I say inconsequential, but this is the point where we find out the Sonozaki family is so scummy, even their pet cat is on drugs. Beyond that though, it's a deliberately rather goofy story courtesy of Naruhisa Arakawa, our first guest writer for this show, and to be honest, I actually really dig this arc's style. It's having so much fun with itself that I can't even care if none of the main characters learn anything or grow at all. Er, well, I guess Philip learned how to breakdance. That's something, right? Not as well as Ryoutarou in Den-O, but still.
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10-19-2019, 10:08 PM | #15579 |
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^Just got to those episodes myself. So good; I eat this kind of character drama right up. The contrast between Mari finally breaking through and Kaido letting go (man that guitar drop scene damn near made me tear up) is absolutely beautiful, emphasized further by the common thread that their respective friends are sticking up for them.
Also, in-between all the melodrama, there's some transforming and monster-fighting going, I suppose. By the way, I appreciate the sub explanation and definitely wouldn't mind some kind of bullet points for the biggest translation mistakes and what they're actually supposed to mean. |
10-20-2019, 09:46 AM | #15580 |
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I will say, one little detail I like about Faiz is that the Orphenoch trio aren't really distinct from any of the other Orphenoch. Like, usually when there's some sort of larger group and the characters you're focusing on in that group are some sort of break away from the others; there's some sort of visual cue -- as a good example; Ryuki, Knight and Zolda are supposed to be the main Ryuki riders, so they have coloured undersuits compared to the usual black.
But the Orphenoch trio here could very easily be normal monsters of the week, and I super appreciate that. It makes me way more able to buy into them as not really being special or unique from the others in any way but their personalities. |
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