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05-02-2023, 12:20 AM | #17411 |
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Geats?Revice subs coming out reminds me that i never actually finished Revice despite being one of the rare people who still loved it by the final quarter. (Got too distracted by Donbros). Gonna get started on finishing it plus it's side content tonight
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05-02-2023, 03:03 AM | #17412 |
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I watched the second episode of The Outsiders. Well, as I wrote earlier, the show is clearly filmed in such a way that it will have to be reviewed in its entirety, but this episode itself was interesting. The characters were written in broad strokes, but since this isn't just about Ren and Desast, it's about Horobi as well, I think it's the format that's at fault, not the screenwriter. The highlight of this episode is Kamen Rider Desast, his book and seiken are awesome. The battles are great too. Overall, I'm excited about Desasta's resurrection and wondering where the story will go next.
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05-03-2023, 09:45 PM | #17413 |
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I just finished Kamen Rider Blade not too long ago and it is a very solid series from start to finish. They are seriously not kidding when the show reaches a very high point after episode 30. I am trying to decide what Kamen Rider series I’m planning to watch next. Probably either Kiva or Kabuto. At least I am now two-thirds of the early Heisei era of the franchise with only Kiva, Kabuto, and Hibiki remaining unaccounted for before eventually jumping into Decade.
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05-04-2023, 03:06 AM | #17414 |
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Watched the first episode of Juuga vs Olteca. Well, Revice is surprisingly willing to crossover with Drive without even bothering to introduce Drive-visestamp into the show. It was quite funny and intriguing, albeit very hastily.
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05-04-2023, 05:26 PM | #17415 |
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I'm capping off my viewing of Kamen Rider Blade (I already watched its Hyper Battle Video beforehand which I find to be very entertaining) by watching its Missing Ace movie which serves as somewhat of an alternative ending to the series.
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05-05-2023, 02:39 AM | #17416 |
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Had the misfortune of watching the Geats x Revice movie. Pretty much a total miss for me.
Mainly, I think I'd rather they just left the Ryuki stuff out of it entirely. I get why they thought it'd be a fun little thing to have them in a Geats thing, but their part in this movie was almost insultingly superfluous. Just absolutely nothing going on there story-wise. The kind of roles you'd usually see filled by a recycled Shocker monster or stuff of that level. The plot and the antagonists overall are just so bare-bones and worthless. Not any fun to watch, no interesting twists or ideas. Some of the most going-through-the-motions movie fare I've seen, which is really saying something. About the only things I can say I liked is, the old Riders using the Rider system of the new show is fun, and it was nice to see the original Glare suit again instead of the uggo 2 repaint. Maybe one or two good character interactions in there (liked Ace honing in on the Igarashi's appreciation for family and Ikki's desire to retain his memories). I don't know what I'm expecting every time I go into one of these crossover films. I didn't especially love the last couple I watched, but man did this one feel particularly disposable. |
05-05-2023, 03:12 AM | #17417 |
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I also watched Movie Battle Royal. I also agree that Ryuki's Riders look like they were added at the last moment, but perhaps this is justified by the appearance of the actors and some kind of plot (although Ryuki's lore got confused back in the noughties). It's also funny that they didn't let the veteran villains get beaten by the rookies. Also on the plus side are a well-placed and varied action (including on vehicles, finally!), a cute baby demon, a well-woven fight between riders. That is, they do not immediately become friends, but they do not fight just to fight (as in Chou Super Hero Taisen). Perhaps it can be added as a plus that the Desire Royal concept will continue to be used in the show itself. At the same time, yes, the plot and emotionally the film feels empty. Even when compared with the first crossovers of the early tenths, there was something to tell at least in individual parts. Here we get the finale of Revice, which didn’t get into the show (whose concept Wizard realized better ten years ago) and, albeit entertaining, but not so exciting as to forgive him emptiness, action. So I hope there's a better script for the next crossover.
Small remarks: - Due to Geat's non-standard preferences, we didn't get a gunslinger duel. It's a shame; - Seeker is clearly better at using Power Builder than Geats; - My idea that the artificial person should be Keiwa, not Neon, was unexpectedly confirmed. That is, all the demons were responsible for the negative or hidden parts of the character of the owners, and his demon wants the same salvation for everyone as Keiwa himself. - Neon is shown to be a worse person than Sakura, throwing things around and disturbing people while the "Demonic Rider" stops to help them. It is clear that the purpose of the comic effect and the emphasis is more on the difference between the morals of the shows than its specific characters; - Michinaga is not in character at all; -Given all his words and actions, Girori must have seriously believed that saving the world is the main goal of the DGP and the show is just a by-product. Alternatively, he could be a human from our time, recruited like Neon's father. Last edited by Mesnick; 05-05-2023 at 06:28 AM.. |
05-05-2023, 08:42 PM | #17418 |
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Hey everyone
Doing my occasional pop back in (if anyone is left that I used to be a regular with back when), I've been watching Geats quietly in my free time and now all caught up, so I thought I would share some overall thoughts like the old days. I think Geats has so far told an an interesting story, and I do like the ensemble nature of the cast, with Geats being a pretty typical Rider protagonist, but used slightly differently (even if the acting isn’t always the best). However, I will say, even by Rider standards, this feels like they are absolutely making up almost everything on the fly, this makes a show of great *moments* but it all doesn't hold that well together when taking a step back. Sure, there are some narrative threads woven through the show, but the majority of the developments feel like they come from nowhere and the DGP Organisation's ability to basically do anything means there isn’t a cohesive set of rules that govern this universe consistently all the way through. This is exasperated by how awfully paced this show is, in general. There are so many episodes in this show you could skip with almost no consequence, and oftentimes the “threaded” beats feel more like things they raised early on, forgot about and then suddenly rushed to resolve when they remembered, whether it really makes much sense from an overall pacing perspective or not. I remember a long time ago when Kyoryuger finished and someone did an episode watch list and it dropped like almost 30 episodes from what I remember, I feel like you'll very much be able to do that with Geats when it is all over, too. In terms of the Riders, I think it is a cool concept to have effectively three types of Riders with different purposes, but outside of the Vision Driver suits, I think almost all of the suits in this show are so damn ugly. Although I will say I liked Geat’s Boost Mark II suit, (although less when it was fused together with the Laser Riser). Those Sponsor forms where they turn into bad CG Zord like things… my word, just awful. It is a shame, as I really like the concept of the contestant Riders as like a power set, and I dunno whether it is just cost saving or genuine restraint, but there was a real opportunity go form crazy here, but instead they created a limited pool of abilities the Riders could use, which we grew familiar with over the course of the show. I much prefer this to just spamming throwaway forms we see once or twice. I just think the physical execution of the idea is just not very good. This might also just be a downside of the HD era, where you can see in crystal detail it's just a cheap body suit with bits of foam shit stuck on it, with no illusion to it being anything else. I dunno, I am watching Blade alongside this and its in like 240p or something but I dunno man... THOSE are suits. Why do I want to see so many black tights here in Geats? I will say I do think I am somewhat spoiled by modern Rider action, because I think the action in this show is not great, but I do concede that compared to older Rider, they really don’t hold back on the special effects here. There are almost no regular punches or kicks to be found in this show, every fight has multiple Riders flying around the screen, firing off lasers, defying the laws of gravity and smashing into each other with these big special effects heavy super moves like straight up Dragonball Z shit, but I dunno, I just felt so cold during so much of the action here. I really like the battles involving the Vision suits, and Ziin’s gravity defying feats were also cool (even if I don’t like that suit design), but both make up a very small portion of the overall action serving you are getting here. I think if I was to pinpoint why I felt so cold, I’d say a lot of the action here just feels kinda mindless. Although there are proper antagonists, the majority of the enemies in this show who fight directly are just footsoldier enemies who are never presented as offering much threat. I love properly established villains in direct showdowns with my heroes, where we feel like we understand the side of both sides of the battle, where there are stakes and investment. No one remembers a battle against a crowd of Putties as their favourite fight scene, no matter how many lasers they add. I dunno. Like I’m watching Blade alongside this, and a lot of the special effects in that show are rubbish with really clunky action scenes, but man the locations, the way those scenes are shot, edited and lit, every Undead feels like a huge threat, and every battle feels like a tense showdown to the death. I feel so much more invested in those action scenes, even though they have almost no lasers. So yeah, reading this back, this all sounds kinda negative and that's a shame, as around I dunno now, maybe the best part of ten years ago I kinda fell off the toku hobby train and have never been able to get back on board again for reasons mostly unknown to me. I've tried to follow basically every Rider show post Gaim but for whatever reason I just didn't vibe with a bunch of those shows, or even if I was enjoying them I fell off somewhere and fell so far behind I just sorta gave up. In fact, when I think about how much I actually watched of shows like Drive, Ex-Aid and Zero One, I probably could have actually finished at least one of them. But either way, Geats is the first one that has held me right up until the point I am actually caught up. That has to count for something.
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05-05-2023, 09:28 PM | #17419 |
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I will say I do think I am somewhat spoiled by modern Rider action, because I think the action in this show is not great, but I do concede that compared to older Rider, they really don?t hold back on the special effects here. There are almost no regular punches or kicks to be found in this show, every fight has multiple Riders flying around the screen, firing off lasers, defying the laws of gravity and smashing into each other with these big special effects heavy super moves like straight up Dragonball Z shit, but I dunno, I just felt so cold during so much of the action here.
I really like the battles involving the Vision suits, and Ziin?s gravity defying feats were also cool (even if I don?t like that suit design), but both make up a very small portion of the overall action serving you are getting here. I don't know if it's the kind of show that's up your alley, but if you want something that has more weighty fights and creative cinematography, I'd recommend checking out Ultraman Z. It's not completely free of these kinds of issues, but it's got some excellent action sequences and may give you what you're not getting from Kamen Rider anymore. |
05-05-2023, 09:47 PM | #17420 |
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Yeah, I've been somewhat vocal about this for the last few years, too. I tend to refer to it as Riders and monsters throwing CGI at each other. It definitely is something that takes me out of it, especially when you get stuff like Buster's sword on Saber, which was obviously made of wobbly foam (weapons that look more like plastic toys than weapons is another one of my common issues). I don't know if it's the kind of show that's up your alley, but if you want something that has more weighty fights and creative cinematography, I'd recommend checking out Ultraman Z. It's not completely free of these kinds of issues, but it's got some excellent action sequences and may give you what you're not getting from Kamen Rider anymore. I know this is a weird hill with toku as everything is rubbery, but there is a difference between a well designed monster suit and flappy cardboard robots (which is why I always struggled with Sentai, because I always thought the mecha stuff was rubbish. They did start updating it a bit when I was last watching regularly but not nearly as much as you would expect). Maybe that is genius for selling toys or whatever, but it does pull me out of it when they are using very obviously plastic guns, or props where its only painted on one side like a toy or whatever. I guess in Geats they spent all their money on shooting laser beams at each other, and in some regards it pays off, but I'd happily see you cut the lasers by half and get some props that actually look like they were made for a professional show, and not just like someone grabbed the toys straight off the shelf. Thanks for the rec on Ultraman Z, always been kind of blindspot of mine, will look it up. Do I need to have seen any other Ultraman stuff?
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