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01-05-2020, 07:11 PM | #21 |
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Man, everyone is coming up with all these great ideas with rich dramatic potential, and all I can think of is that you could pair Beast up with literally anyone and probably make a good comedy duo.
Is it okay if I ask another question instead? Because since Die just finished the only Heisei show without any secondary Riders, I feel like "who would you pair with Kuuga?" is a specific variation on the topic worth talking about. I'd go with Beast. Nah but for reals, basically any Rider that's part of the police force would work. G3, Accel, Birth, etc. Them or some weird alternate, Grongi version of Ankh. |
01-05-2020, 10:56 PM | #22 |
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I haven't seen Kuuga (I want to, just haven't yet), but from what I've heard about it, I think it could be interesting to have Baron as the second rider. With Kaito's ambition and belief that only the strongest survive, I see him being a human who somehow enters the Gurongi's game, only instead of attacking humans he aims to win by eliminating all the other contestants. This gives him a shared enemy with Yusuke but a completely different motivation, so they would fight together but have conflict between them.
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01-05-2020, 11:42 PM | #23 |
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I haven't seen Kuuga (I want to, just haven't yet), but from what I've heard about it, I think it could be interesting to have Baron as the second rider. With Kaito's ambition and belief that only the strongest survive, I see him being a human who somehow enters the Gurongi's game, only instead of attacking humans he aims to win by eliminating all the other contestants. This gives him a shared enemy with Yusuke but a completely different motivation, so they would fight together but have conflict between them.
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04-16-2020, 09:30 PM | #24 |
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I know, I know, very old thread; but I'm revisiting it because a specific combo came to mind today: I'd love to see Eiji (OOO) with an 'angrily heroic' secondary rider like Fuwa (Vulcan).
Now, mind, I don't mean someone who's just angry like Baron; or has a lot of turmoil to work through like Knight or Brave. That's just hitting the same beats as Ankh: those are flaws to those characters that's preventing their better natures from showing. No, instead what's special about Fuwa is that especially as of late; he is straight up a hero and a protagonist in every sense. He's fighting for justice, he's doing the right thing... and he's also super, super pissed. And rightfully so. He's had his life completely messed with by a corporation; had his friends and group ripped from him; and just in general there's a lot of shit going on! He has every reason to be angry, and frankly, good for him! So I'd LOVE to see how that would play out with someone like Eiji; someone who has a very zen-like mentality and approaches everything calmly and without judgement and trying to see the best in even the most nefarious foes. There's value in both mentalities here - Eiji's trying to see the best in everyone; and Fuwa's justified rage and a sense of when a line's been crossed - and it'd just be super interesting to see these two different ideas of justice contrasted.
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04-16-2020, 09:40 PM | #25 |
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Having a character like Eiji try and shape another Rider's journey, to focus them... I'd be real into that story. Mostly because Eiji is more adaptive (why yes I did listen to a bunch of Anything Goes while I was packing stuff up for work today) and willing to play to the situation, and that type of character trying to harness Untethered Righteous Rage is... that is a pickle! It's a real pickle. Also, I'm really into Eiji having a secondary Rider who wants him to use the purple medals more.
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04-16-2020, 09:50 PM | #26 |
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I don't know Vulcan, but that's a really compelling idea.
Having a character like Eiji try and shape another Rider's journey, to focus them... I'd be real into that story. Mostly because Eiji is more adaptive (why yes I did listen to a bunch of Anything Goes while I was packing stuff up for work today) and willing to play to the situation, and that type of character trying to harness Untethered Righteous Rage is... that is a pickle! It's a real pickle. Also, I'm really into Eiji having a secondary Rider who wants him to use the purple medals more.
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04-16-2020, 09:55 PM | #27 |
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I'm not even about the idea of Eiji trying to shape Fuwa here: I'm into the idea of them shaping each other. That's what makes this so interesting: there's not actually anything wrong with Fuwa here like there is with Accel or Specter or whoever else. There was to begin with, but he's past all that, he's done with his development; and his anger is still there. And it's important that his anger is still there because rather than letting it control him or hold it back, in my view, he uses it for a just cause! So this would be more about the two balancing each other out, or learning to accept each other.
how does he feel about ice candies though is he super into them because uh that's a pretty key attribute for eiji's secondary rider like a total disqualification if he's anti-ice candies
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04-16-2020, 09:58 PM | #28 |
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Oh! Okay, so it's more about that idea of Directing Rage, of someone's anger not being a negative emotion that needs to be stamped out, but a tool that can be used in healthy/productive ways. That sounds like a really fun story!
how does he feel about ice candies though is he super into them because uh that's a pretty key attribute for eiji's secondary rider like a total disqualification if he's anti-ice candies Also it helps that he's animal themed, and like, gets bird powers later on. He's filling some niches!
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04-17-2020, 06:28 PM | #29 |
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Oh Eiji and Fuwa sounds really good!
Something I always found brilliant about OOO is that it doesn't take the position that desire is bad and people should have as little of it as possible. The Greeed are manifestations of desire running rampant, but Eiji and Dr. Maki are examples of the dangers of not having any desire. So instead of desire being a bad thing to get rid of or a good thing to have as much of as you can, it's all about having a healthy amount of it and expressing it in a productive way. And what you said about Fuwa made me realize his arc is very similar about anger: Yes, too much of it is a problem, but the solution wasn't to get rid of all of his anger, it was to focus his rage on the evil that actually deserves it instead of letting it spill out against innocents. And on top of that, Eiji and Fuwa are approaching their dangerous-but-still-needed emotions from opposite directions: Eiji doesn't have enough desire and needs to gain enough to sustain himself, while Fuwa has too much anger and needs to get it under control. Heck, call it hatred instead of anger and it even makes a good thematic opposite to desire. |
04-17-2020, 06:55 PM | #30 |
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Drive and Accel. Best buddy cop show ever.
That and probably Hibiki and Beast. Basically Bear Grylls but with toku.
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