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05-24-2022, 11:13 PM | #1211 |
Kamen Ride Or Die
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O - THREAD WRAP-UP
And that just about does it for KAMEN RIDER DIE WATCHES KAMEN RIDER ZI-O! As always, thanks to everyone who participated in this thread, whether you came prepared with a series-long gimmick, or just popped in when you couldn’t resist commenting. I’d be enormously grateful just to be tolerated for my weird thoughts on Kamen Rider, but y’all are constantly making these threads a fun party. I can’t ever thank you enough, but I’ve got a few more threads to give it a try. There was a window where this might’ve been a collaborative thread like Decade was, and while that didn’t happen, I think it maybe did in a better way? Decade was a series of one-on-one discussions, where I’d chat with another fan about a specific story, and then move on to another fan and another chat. With Zi-O, it felt like everyone was coming to this thing with their own perspective, and their own set of goals for the experience. I think that’s more Zi-O than trying to rehash the Decade thread? Zi-O was a show about how we each individually need to figure out what the future means, and work daily to get there. But while those things are up to us, they only become valuable if everyone gets the chance to do those things, and is supported in their attempt. So a thread where it’s two people taking apart a story, and then they’re done… that’s not this show? This one needs a dozen people working in tandem to explain their perspectives, and share their insights, so we can all benefit from the effort. Everyone showing up with their bits, or their links, or their breakdowns… kind of the ideal way to approach this show, honestly. I had a really good time with this thread. Decade was a ton of work, and then the holiday break movie thread was, inexplicably, even more work. Getting back to a weekly show and daily posts, it was nice. Felt good! I don’t know if it read good, though? (Beyond my conversational writing style; see “read good”.) There’s some stuff I liked writing about – Oma Zi-O as addiction metaphor was the thing I was maybe happiest with – but I never really felt like I said anything too insightful or trenchant. Most of my analysis felt facile, and not terribly original. Didn’t– didn’t much feel like I was digging into these episodes in ways other than how everyone else dug into them a few years ago. Maybe it was fun to read, though? I don’t know, I’m the last one to judge that. I hope it was fun! Regardless of my thoughts on the quality of these posts, I got myself a treat! SH Figuarts Kamen Rider Zi-O! Finally get to open this guy up, since he’s been sitting in a closet for a few months. (He needs Ridewatch stickers reeeeeally bad.) I also recently snagged Woz and Zi-O II, with Geiz and Geiz Revive on the way. Planning to add Oma Zi-O, Grand Zi-O, Trinity Form, and Woz Finally to the collection, but that’ll probably be it. Never was too crazy about the Armor Times, and a movie-only form isn’t something I need to see in the cabinet right now. Maybe someday, though. Haven’t done this in a minute, but how about a Watch Thread word-art? It’s the 200 most-used words in my episode posts, all arranged in a nicely regal crown shape. If anything in there reflects your Zi-O experience, please call it out. “Swartz Something Nothing” is so true it’s painful. I’ll still pop into this thread if people have thoughts to share, but this is the end of any daily work on it from me. I’ll be going on a brief hiatus, where I both let my brain reset a bit for the next show, and just generally catch up on the many things I’ve avoided over the last couple months. DonBros, for sure, need to get caught up there. (I also heard there was an OOO movie? Any good?) I’ll try and spend some time fixing broken images in older threads, but I’m not sure how far I’ll get. (I’ve got a bunch of non-Rider projects to work on, so I’m not sure I’ll be able to fix more than a thread or two.) Other than that, I’ll be back in mid-June for KAMEN RIDER DIE WATCHES KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE (XXX XXXXXX XXXXX). Tentatively planning on Thursday, June 16th, but it may be later that weekend. This summer’s going to be a bumpy ride, scheduling-wise, so we’ll have to play it by ear. Definitely going to be back in under a month, though, promise. Thanks again to everyone who shared their thoughts in this thread, or just lurked in anonymity. I’m very grateful, and I think of you all as friends. You can’t see it, but I’m typing this with a smile that’d make Sougo look depressed.
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05-25-2022, 02:01 AM | #1212 |
Precure enthusiast
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The End of Time!
-I think I mentioned this at the beginning, how I've read through many of Die's other watch threads, but this one was the first one I was able to input and dicuss things as the thread began. I'm not quite the best at expanding on my thoughts in detail and sometimes felt like my posts often didn't add much to the dicussion, but I had lots of fun writing and reading others' posts anyway! -As we close the door on Heisei for now, I'd like to vaguely talk about Reiwa Rider as a whole, since I feel it'd be weird to stick this onto Zero-One's first episode? Consider it a teaser, or something like that: -I can only speak for my experiences and the other fans I've encountered, but it definitely seems like the reactions to this era of Rider have been very.....mixed. And that's fine honestly, we can't always be Megamax-era Rider or Kuuga-Agito-Ryuki, esp not with the shadow of a worldwide diaster that's *still* looming over our heads! But I feel like people aren't giving this era of Rider enough credit, yknow? If I had to condense the vibe of Reiwa (half vaguely concerning the actual story content of these shows, and half about my personal obseverations about the sentiments of creative team) into a single word, "ambition" probably comes to mind! There's lots of interesting decisions Reiwa makes to distinct itself from Heisei Rider, and I'm excited to look back when it started with the 01 rewatch while simulateously observing how it further solidifes its own idenity as news about the 4th Reiwa Rider will probably start trickling out by the time we start. -Anyway! Hope you have fun catching up with Donbrothers, as well as the OOO specials! Donbros has nothing but fantastic so far personally and I'm really looking forward to the Birth special coming out later in the summer. |
05-25-2022, 09:50 AM | #1213 |
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I think I mentioned this at the beginning, how I've read through many of Die's other watch threads, but this one was the first one I was able to input and dicuss things as the thread began. I'm not quite the best at expanding on my thoughts in detail and sometimes felt like my posts often didn't add much to the dicussion, but I had lots of fun writing and reading others' posts anyway!
And, honestly, you did a great job sharing your feelings on Zi-O. I know I always had a good laugh at your asides, and your enthusiasm for different aspects of this show helped me better consider the, like, totality of Zi-O. I read every post, and they definitely added to this experience!
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05-25-2022, 10:27 AM | #1214 |
Some guy. I'm alright.
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"Hope Stuff Man"
i thought we just watched zi-o not wizard
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05-25-2022, 10:28 AM | #1215 |
I have a problematic type
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05-25-2022, 06:23 PM | #1216 |
The Immortal King Tasty
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But hey, DreamSword isn't the only person I'm here to congratulate today, so, without further ado: *clears throat* 祝え! Critiquing all Riders that he trucks with, analyzing nearly two decades of television content and beyond, his name is Kamen Rider Die, and we now bear witness to the moment in which he completes an era! (...I doubt that was as good as the real deal would give you, but unfortunately, we don't live in a world where everyone gets their own Woz.) A little under three years since you started doing this with Ghost, huh? Obviously there are plenty of shows you watched prior to joining the forum, but still, that's about 12 and half entire Rider shows you've been writing about all in that time? It felt this way after Decade too, but man, crazy to think how far the need to vent about one series has ended up carrying you. And the thing is, Zi-O's not even any real ending. I mean, just when you've got the number of Heisei Riders left down to Zero, One more of these threads is already right around the corner! はい!アルトじゃぁぁぁぁ~ oh wait I should maybe save that shtick for when you get there At any rate, let just me assure you once again that it's always a pleasure to read your thoughts on these shows, and be a part of all the discussion that generates. (A whole lot of discussion in this case too! This thread has dethroned Faiz for the most posts one of these has gotten!) I'm naturally looking forward to you finally catching up to the era you started making these in, but just to celebrate the one we're leaving behind, I'd like to remind everyone that, well, Heisei Rider is never getting left behind. And there are few better testaments to that fact than this MAD I am utterly infatuated with, taking Over "Quartzer" and a whole load of memorable quotes from these shows to make just about the most touching tribute to Heisei Rider I've ever seen. 日本語わかれば絶対感動すると思う。But uh, if you don't know Japanese, I have no clue how much the effect still comes across. Still though, whoever made this video is clearly some kind of prodigy, and it only feels right to spread the word. Although, in the event you want something a little more universal, this has also reminded me I meant to share this eternal masterpiece from ~2011 back at the end of the Decade thread. (I'm glad I didn't get into Rider earlier than I did, because I don't even want to imagine how much lamer being a Rider fan was in a world where this didn't exist yet.) With all that said, allow me to leave off by reiterating that I'm always excited about the next one of these threads from you, Die. It's sure to be as great a time as it always is.
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05-25-2022, 06:38 PM | #1217 |
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Well here we are folks, the end... of Zi-O.
This was a lot of fun and honestly I consider this thread a success for me purely because Die managed to something I was hoping for despite how messy Zi-O can be... and that's... Loving our Main Cast of characters and sort of just digging into them and how they're pretty enjoyable and really make the show. Hell even a character who shows up so little and seemingly doesn't have much on the surface (Oma Zi-O) is littered with tons of stuff via context clues and the way he acts. Over all, if there was one thing Zi-O succeeded at, it was making an enjoyable cast that I'll definitely miss. Or not really because I've been with these characters for 2 years at this point thanks to writing a RWBY and Zi-O Crossover. But hey, I wanted to be a bit sentimental. And because Fish here decided to share a video, and because I already shared my MV for Zi-O in the post for 49, here's a MAD that I really enjoyed that someone made of Zi-O. And well, that's it I suppose. But don't think I was only going to stick around for this. You're absolutely stuck with me for Zero-One for sure, Especially for Saber, and Especially Especially for Revice. I'm not going anywhere! I have no real gimmick for any of those shows but I will talk about things! Oh boy will I talk! Welp, that's all folks! |
05-25-2022, 06:42 PM | #1218 |
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Well I don’t have an MV, but I do have a final production fact.
The reason Diend is reduced to a voice-only role in Decade vs Zi-O is because he was supposed to get a bigger role, but his actor’s mother was sick (and since he’s an only child and she’s a widow, there was no-one else to look after her), but he did give permission for them to reuse some voice lines from Zi-O’s finale. Anyway, I’ve finally decided on a thread post theme for Zero-One. Given how popular showing off toys and hypothetical forms was here, I’ll just keep that up. |
05-25-2022, 08:14 PM | #1219 |
Reiei
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This was a neat read. Nice to see someone experience ZI-O as well.
... What? I don't have something insightful and deep to say! I suck at those and it's been years (4 years?!) since I watched ZI-O. You just have to take my word of it that it's one of my beloved despite its flaws. Look, here, take this pic of my SHF Geiz Revive. I sold ZI-O, to replace with one of his super forms down the line, and Base Geiz and Woz are boxed, so he's the only one out right now. He's not the most eye-catching, nor the most solid and fun to play around with b, but he's one of my favorite figures. I bought him because I love the form and character. ...Wait that's not a bad way to describe ZI-O. |
05-25-2022, 11:00 PM | #1220 |
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A little under three years since you started doing this with Ghost, huh? Obviously there are plenty of shows you watched prior to joining the forum, but still, that's about 12 and half entire Rider shows you've been writing about all in that time? It felt this way after Decade too, but man, crazy to think how far the need to vent about one series has ended up carrying you.
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Loving our Main Cast of characters and sort of just digging into them and how they're pretty enjoyable and really make the show. Hell even a character who shows up so little and seemingly doesn't have much on the surface (Oma Zi-O) is littered with tons of stuff via context clues and the way he acts. Over all, if there was one thing Zi-O succeeded at, it was making an enjoyable cast that I'll definitely miss.
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The reason Diend is reduced to a voice-only role in Decade vs Zi-O is because he was supposed to get a bigger role, but his actor?s mother was sick (and since he?s an only child and she?s a widow, there was no-one else to look after her), but he did give permission for them to reuse some voice lines from Zi-O?s finale.
That's plenty! Short but sweet! I'm glad you had a good time!
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