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01-22-2020, 04:16 PM | #21 |
Fangirl-Type Humagear
Join Date: Jun 2017
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For some reason, even though it was repetitive this episode felt really-fast paced to me, and I think I finally realized why: It's not just a repeat of episode 17 like everyone is saying. It's episode 17 and 18 crammed into one. We've got the setup of the contest, the introduction of both competitors, the human getting desperate to beat the Humagear, their malice provoking the Humagear to go Magia, and Gai destroying the Magia over Aruto's objections. That's all from episode 17.
BUT the revelation that the human cheated, the hooded woman making an appearance, the human turning into a Raider and fighting Zero-One, and the human openly attacking the Humagear? Last time around, that didn't happen until episode 18. So yes, it is a slightly rearranged repeat of the previous arc, but they went through all the beats except the ending in the first episode, so there's still a lot of room for twists in the second. I think the writer is hurrying to set up a pattern and make us think we know what to expect so he can subvert it. |
01-23-2020, 09:29 AM | #22 |
New Member
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I don't like the current ark. It just drags for me. I don't really care about the whole "who is the better company" stuff and seeing Aruto so completely useless is no fun either. I mean why did he not realize that something was wrong with real estate guy.
He knows that people transform in the Raiders so if one attacks the building he tried to sell he could have at least suspected the real estate guy. And if Aruto was to stupid at least Izu could have thought about it. I really hope this ark picks up soon. The last 3 episodes overall were not much fun for me. |
01-23-2020, 10:02 AM | #23 |
天心の英雄たち
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Maryland
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I still have hope for the series but I'm watching it for Izu and the fight scenes at the moment.
Aruto 'out of costume' still hasn't grown on me yet. He's not annoying, but I do find him irritating at times. Which I usually don't have happen with a Rider. I dont' find myself really invested in or drawn to any of the characters like I was with Grease in Build (for example), the writing seems a bit 'going through the motions' right now. Honestly none of the characters except maybe Izu are interesting to me. They just.... are there. Which is a shame because the fights and suit designs are absolutely fantastic. The Cheetah-Rider I think has potential to have an interesting character arc if it's written for her. |
01-23-2020, 09:53 PM | #24 |
The Immortal King Tasty
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Both episodes can be summarized way too similarly for my liking. They both start with Aruto and Gai chatting at that same exact table. They both have most of their runtime devoted to introducing us to the two players for the contest, a polite, gentle Humagear, and an arrogant human, and they both end with said Humagear turning into a Magia, and Zero-One awkwardly flailing around trying to protect/fight them while Thouser smacks him around, steals his powers, and then beats it himself. I know you can make a lot of things sound similar if you oversimplify them enough, so that doesn't necessarily prove anything, but I'd have a way harder time doing that with the show's episodes from last year. Even trying to give this episode a chance by ignoring early plots like "the heroes explore the site of the tragedy that forms the show's backstory", and "Jin tries to figure out what a family is", the ones that boil down to "Aruto tries to do business stuff but a Magia ends up attacking" feel way different. Episode 3 was about a guy who refused to believe Humagears could do a job as well as a human. Episode 5 was about a guy who believed Humagears could do his job so much better than he could, he turned into a lazy slave-driver. Plus, the action always felt different too, with all the new forms and Riders constantly showing up. This show was doing great with standalone episodes, and this sudden shift into more traditional two-parters doesn't seem to be contributing anything positive at the moment. Again, I want to stress that this isn't a bad episode in its own right, and that I'm not too worried about the show's future or anything, but this one just felt really lacking in substance compared to what we've been getting, and I don't see why it needed to be.
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01-24-2020, 06:05 PM | #25 |
Master Procrastinator
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I do not agree with what people are saying about Gai being underhanded. I do not think that is what is going on at all.
My understanding is that he genuinely believes that sapient AI is inherently dangerous and that sooner or later it will turn against humanity and destroy it. That talk about humanity going extinct is what he actually believes. He's not trying to throw the contest but pushing the Humagears to turn into Maggia through his own people. Winning the contest is not his primary goal. It's just a means to an end. His primary goal is proving that Humagears are dangerous and must be destroyed and getting them to turn into Maggia, then destroying them before they can hurt anyone is just his way of trying to expose the danger. The contest is just his way of taking over Hidden so he can shut down Humagear production, but it's just one means to his end. The contest just happens to provide two ways of getting at this at once and he's going to take full advantage of both. It's probably never even occurred to him that messing with the Humagear this way could be considered cheating, because he things that it's just natural for them to turn bad anyway. |
01-25-2020, 04:46 AM | #26 |
NinninComic
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So, his main objective would be to prove that : "Humans are better than AIs/Humagears" But because he thinks AI are dangerous, and to prove his point, he would show the Ark that humans ARE BAD to make the (not yet bad) humagears bad themselves. There is something wrong in the logic here. |
01-25-2020, 07:20 AM | #27 |
Showa Girl
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He already admitted that HE is the one who decided to make the Ark bad by flooding it with "human makes war" and that kind of things.
So, his main objective would be to prove that : "Humans are better than AIs/Humagears" But because he thinks AI are dangerous, and to prove his point, he would show the Ark that humans ARE BAD to make the (not yet bad) humagears bad themselves. There is something wrong in the logic here.
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