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06-26-2020, 10:50 PM | #1211 |
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You know, until this comment, I never quite understood the appeal of G.I. Joe. As far as I was concerned it was just military guys fighting watered-down versions of international terrorists. And people aiming for a more gritty push reinforced this thought in my head.
You just blew my mind. All of a sudden everything makes sense to me. I feel enlightened. Now, where do I start in entering the franchise? The huge caveats are a) I read those as a kid and can't vouch for their quality to an adult, b) I'm not a big Joe guy so I can't speak with any deep knowledge, c) I'm not even saying it's a worthwhile franchise to dive into. Maybe some other members who are more invested in Joe can give a recommendation?
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06-26-2020, 10:56 PM | #1212 |
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If you want an R rated Power Rangers, you could watch Gantz instead. If you want an R rated G.I Joe, you can always watch something like Jarhead instead. Somethings are better off being only for kids. Same with stuff aim towards adults.
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06-26-2020, 11:19 PM | #1213 |
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Does anybody have a Master Grade and a Hot Toys (preferably Iron Man)? I wanna know how they scale. I always assumed Hot Toys are the same size as a general Master Grade, but Hot Toys does seem to be taller.
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I always find it stupid and funny that you will have people that will be like "Being Dark, Gritty and Edgy is overrated. Stuff that is kiddish and stupid can be just as smart and mature" and yet they will be like "We need an R rated Power Rangers".
If you want an R rated Power Rangers, you could watch Gantz instead. If you want an R rated G.I Joe, you can always watch something like Jarhead instead. Somethings are better off being only for kids. Same with stuff aim towards adults. Power Rangers needs to stay as a kids show, but I don'y want them to be exclusive to kids, but appealing to all ages, like Avatar, Clone Wars and even Young Justice (except season 3 bevause that is clearly R-rated). I would say I want it to be like the CW Arrowverse, but then I remembered I dropped the Arrowverse due to them being too soap opera.
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06-26-2020, 11:59 PM | #1214 |
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Posting Doctor MindBender because this feels like the right time to do so
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06-27-2020, 12:01 AM | #1215 |
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You know, until this comment, I never quite understood the appeal of G.I. Joe. As far as I was concerned it was just military guys fighting watered-down versions of international terrorists. And people aiming for a more gritty push reinforced this thought in my head.
You just blew my mind. All of a sudden everything makes sense to me. I feel enlightened. Now, where do I start in entering the franchise?
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06-27-2020, 12:05 AM | #1216 |
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06-27-2020, 12:15 AM | #1217 |
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"When will we get a gritty, realistic take on the shirtless/monocled/caped/brainwasher/former orthodontist," cries the always-dismayed adult Joe fandom.
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06-27-2020, 12:31 AM | #1218 |
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If a series tries to be inclusive or progressive there's a backlash, which is what's happening with the current GI Joe comic. (HissTank chased Paul Allor off the boards! The guy who writes the GI Joe comic was made to feel unwelcome on a GI Joe fan forum!) However, they also don't care much for the current ARAH run, which is written by the guy who wrote all of the classic comics. They think it's gotten too goofy and unrealistic, which, amazing to me! Literally the only IDW thing I've ever seen that fanbase appreciate is the (generally well-regarded even outside the fandom!) Mike Costa stuff, specifically his Chuckles stories. Everything else just bugs them. I think it's a mix of wanting an unapologetically might-makes-right military adventure series that would have an incredibly narrow audience in 2020, so media companies ain't exactly bending over backwards to accommodate them; and an inability to realize how much their nostalgia means that they're trying to recapture a specific childhood experience that is gone forever. It's sad! I'm honestly sad for them as fans! They're a dwindling audience clinging to an unpopular franchise, and yet every attempt by Hasbro (or IDW) to grow the fanbase with new ideas is greeted with hostility. Some of them got real real mad at Hasbro making new Joe figures because the designs were modern and the figures were in a more popular scale! NEW FIGURES made them yell at each other! Exclamation marks!!!
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06-27-2020, 02:12 AM | #1219 |
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It's a thing about the Joe fandom that I find a little perplexing. There's a large push amongst a section of fans to make these figures more Real-World Military, more Gritty. (The casual insult is to compare the designs to Fortnite, as though a toy company basing some of the aesthetic of their toys for children on the most successful piece of children's entertainment available isn't the smartest thing they could as a company.)
But, like, Joe was always a mix of Military and Absurdity. Destro is a guy in a metal mask and no shirt: he's not someone you want to 100% take seriously! These are slightly goofy concepts! They always have been! It's not a flaw! But yeah, when you have a franchise that's built on equal parts reasonably authentic military hardware and stuff like the friggin' Trouble Bubble, you can't complain when it decides to bring in some goofy and absurd stuff. Like my personal favorite, the Toxo Zombie. Quote:
It's just a thing I've seen on other boards, where folks fold their arms at Funny Joe, and like, have they just not been seeing part of the Joe waveform or something? Sgt Slaughter and the Fridge were canonical Joe members! This franchise has a baked-in sense of humor about itself! I don't know why I'm shouting about this in the How is Everyone Today thread!
That's something that kind of bugged me as I was on my way out the door years ago. People started turning their noses up at the franchise and became less Joe fans and more "1/12 scale enthusiasts" obsessed with recreating stuff at the scale- that they used Joes was just a matter of convenience. Quote:
You know, until this comment, I never quite understood the appeal of G.I. Joe. As far as I was concerned it was just military guys fighting watered-down versions of international terrorists. And people aiming for a more gritty push reinforced this thought in my head.
You just blew my mind. All of a sudden everything makes sense to me. I feel enlightened. Now, where do I start in entering the franchise? Quote:
He's Cobra's chief accountant.
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06-27-2020, 03:52 AM | #1220 |
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I am starting to teach myself touch typing; a muscle memory that will allow me to type without looking at the keyboard. So far plenty of mistakes but we have to start somewhere right?
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