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11-14-2020, 03:33 PM | #671 |
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I’m in much the same boat as you. The second half does have its ups and its downs, but I wouldn’t call it objectively terrible. That tweet I quoted a while back? He later said that Hibiki had become his favourite Heisei Rider series (displacing Kuuga) partially because of it.
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I just want to say this before the thread ends, but 38 and 39 were written by someone named Shōji Yonemura not Inoue. I'm not sure what circumstances lead to the episodes being so bad though. I don't have experience with his other writings. (He wrote Smile Precure though, so that's a thing)
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There's a joking defense I like to make about the later part of Hibiki, which is that it's a lot better if you just pretend it's Inoue's Todoroki fan-fiction. I've been meaning to find some excuse to bring that up in here, and I guess you confirming for me I'm not just misremembering the (excessive?) amount of focus he gets is just that. It's not some particularly clever thing, but I love describing it that way because it straddles a fine line between sounding like genuine apologist talk ("you just need to adjust your expectations") and an outright condemnation ("it's about the quality you'd expect from your average fan-fic").
That ambiguity expresses my conflicted feelings on what happened to this show pretty much perfectly; I don't actually hate it anywhere near as much as I think a lot of people do, but even then, I wouldn't exactly say I'm fond of it on any significant level either. Except maybe those first two Inoue episodes, which, again, I legitimately mistook for part of the old era somehow. Quote:
Y'know, the funny thing is that I remember being very disappointed by Hibiki's second half. After rewatching the show, I've re-evaluated my opinion to mildly disappointed. I've seen Inoue do better, he wrote my favorite show, but I've also seen him do worse. I can tell he was at least trying to do something here. Maybe it didn't totally work but the stuff that worked was worth watching for.
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The main reason Inoue and Shirakura were brought into the 2nd half was because Agito,Ryuki and Faiz were all critical and commercial success. The higher up probably were thinking along the lines of these guys made us alot a cash a couple of years ago let them have Hibiki in order to get our ratings and sponsers back. Without thinking about how there style of writing and producing clashed with Taketera style.
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11-14-2020, 04:50 PM | #672 |
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By contrast, the next series, which is handled by the same writers and producer team as this second half, I’d put it in my top 5. I’ll go into why as you go through that watch along, but most of the time on that thread, I’ll be pointing out what past Rider every Rider in the show is a homage to and any (possible) similarities.
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11-14-2020, 04:53 PM | #673 |
Showa Girl
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Kabuto is an experience. Which I think you're really really going to like.
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11-14-2020, 09:36 PM | #674 |
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THREAD END FOR KAMEN RIDER DIE
"Our work is done We sucked the life out of every living thing Oh under the sun And our work is done" -Superchunk, "Our Work Is Done" And that's it for me and this thread! A super weird experience, but a fulfilling one. Thanks, as always, to everyone who came along on this ride with me. Getting to hear the trivia, the memories, the insights, the frustration, the elation... it's a real gift to choose to share that with me (and others!), and it's something I treasure. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Normally, I've got a new Figuart to open when I've closed out a series, but WOW am I not the type of fan who's willing to pay the current aftermarket price for a Seihou Hibiki. Instead, I spent the afternoon building this guy, and I am not feeling bad about that alternative: It's this year's Figure-Rise Hibiki, and he's a pretty fun build. Some of the stickers are a pain in the ass (the ones around his wrists and ankles are poorly designed), but I like him a lot. A worthy addition to my little trophy shelf. Oh! And how about a Word Cloud? Sure to be a few random phrases that can sum up our feelings about Hibiki. "Plot Need Love" fairly leaps out at you, right? Other than that, I'm gonna make myself scarce for a bit. Decompression sounds like a real treat. I'll pop into this thread when I've got something to say, but don't be surprised if it's more radio silence than usual for the next couple weeks. Unless something weird happens, expect to see "Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kabuto" land on these boards on December 3rd. Until then, I hope you're able to live your life the way you want! Thanks!
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11-14-2020, 09:39 PM | #675 |
Showa Girl
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"STORY EPISODE FEEL" sounds about right to me!
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11-14-2020, 09:49 PM | #676 |
Some guy. I'm alright.
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Grats on finishing Hibiki, Die. Take a well deserved rest.
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11-14-2020, 11:17 PM | #677 |
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"First Look Here" right in the center sounds weirdly like an instruction on how these pictures work.
"Still Care; Nice, Mostly" is maybe where Die's opinion on the retool ended up. "Great Man" and "Real Kid" combine to encapsulate the show pretty well, if you ask me. Maybe don't ask me, though. I have very weird opinions about Kamen Rider. But hey, that's all part of the fun around here, isn't it? This was a blast as always, Die. Enjoy the time off!
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11-15-2020, 12:00 AM | #678 |
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Completely missed that in my rush to skim through several pages of posting to see if anyone had mentioned that. My apologies.
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11-15-2020, 01:45 AM | #679 |
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Another feat done.
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11-16-2020, 04:27 PM | #680 |
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I've actually never seen the next rider series but from what I've heard(FAIZ 2.0) I wouldn't like it probably
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