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05-15-2013, 05:11 AM | #41 |
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I felt that Thor's focus largely on Kirby's ideas and designs was what made it the straightest, there were changes but it felt like it was lifted right out of his comics. I never knew where I was one moment to the next was Cap.
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05-16-2013, 10:14 PM | #42 |
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Am I the only one who sees the Trailer for Epic and thinks "When did they make a sequel for Ferngully?"?
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05-16-2013, 10:44 PM | #43 |
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I'm watching a crapton of DC's animated movies. They're pretty fun, and they remind me why I disliked The Dark Knight.
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05-17-2013, 08:10 AM | #44 |
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Finally got around to seeing Into Darkness and it was...okay.
It was beautiful to look at, the action was epic and Cumberbatch was by far the best part of the film but I would have liked more quieter character moments because it was basically a two hour long action scene and it got exhausting. Oh and yeah, the Captain Kirk of Into Darkness is an insult to the original character. Painting Kirk as not just hot headed but flat out retarded getting people killed and his ass beat in a repeated cycle throughout the two hours. As a fan of the original series this really annoyed me.
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05-17-2013, 11:58 AM | #45 |
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As a huge fan of the original series, and all of the films, including Final Frontier, I disagree with you. If there's one problem with Kirk in the original series, it's that he's always right, and his mistakes never have any cost. Does he even do anything that can be called a mistake in TOS?
One of the reasons Wrath of Khan is the best film is we see him make mistakes and it costs people their lives. He does act flat out retarded when Reliant approaches Enterprise while not responding to hails, so he doesn't raise shields and people die. Scotty's nephew dies. Seeing him have to deal with that through the film is what makes him a human being. In fact, you could say that the damage to the ship that ultimately cause Spock's death is due to Kirk's mistakes. In Into Darkness he's just younger and far less experienced when making mistakes, which is what being young is supposed to be for. I think the filmmakers and the cast have done excellent jobs at respecting the original crew and fans, and at the same time, made their own personal touches. Star Trek Into Darkness was amazing! I thought everything was fantastic. It won't displace Wrath of Khan as my favorite Star Trek film, but it does displace Undiscovered Country as my second favorite. The action was great, and I think the character moments were worthwhile and interesting. Cumberbatch was great, but so was Admiral Marcus and Pike and everybody. I have no complaints at all. And since my wife was sick last night and couldn't go (I saw it with my cousin), I get to go see it again next week sometime, with her. |
05-17-2013, 12:10 PM | #46 |
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As a huge fan of the original series, and all of the films, including Final Frontier, I disagree with you. If there's one problem with Kirk in the original series, it's that he's always right, and his mistakes never have any cost. Does he even do anything that can be called a mistake in TOS?
One of the reasons Wrath of Khan is the best film is we see him make mistakes and it costs people their lives. He does act flat out retarded when Reliant approaches Enterprise while not responding to hails, so he doesn't raise shields and people die. Scotty's nephew dies. Seeing him have to deal with that through the film is what makes him a human being. In fact, you could say that the damage to the ship that ultimately cause Spock's death is due to Kirk's mistakes. In Into Darkness he's just younger and far less experienced when making mistakes, which is what being young is supposed to be for. I think the filmmakers and the cast have done excellent jobs at respecting the original crew and fans, and at the same time, made their own personal touches. Star Trek Into Darkness was amazing! I thought everything was fantastic. It won't displace Wrath of Khan as my favorite Star Trek film, but it does displace Undiscovered Country as my second favorite. The action was great, and I think the character moments were worthwhile and interesting. Cumberbatch was great, but so was Admiral Marcus and Pike and everybody. I have no complaints at all. And since my wife was sick last night and couldn't go (I saw it with my cousin), I get to go see it again next week sometime, with her. The character moments, you mean all two of them? And Cumberbatch was my favourite because he is basically the only thing that really works in the film, as everything about him is told through facial expressions and explosions which is all the film is made up of.
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05-17-2013, 12:18 PM | #47 |
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I rewatched Star Trek (2009) to get caught up on the story for when I see Into Darkness,and I gotta say I really like it.It's a good film to kind of pass the torch to the actor for the next generation while keeping the characters from the old generation.
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05-17-2013, 12:23 PM | #48 |
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Kirk was a product of his time, PineKirk is just rubbish. I'd rather a character who never makes a mistake, than a character who never gets anything right. Everything that actually went okay in Into Darkness was when other people were in the Captains chair or when other people had to bail Kirk out. There is a big difference between a hot headed, in experienced younger Kirk and someone who needs a bib because he's dribbling down himself.
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05-17-2013, 12:27 PM | #49 |
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Name a moment in the film where Kirk's plans worked without also getting himself beaten into the floor and killing half his crew in the process. Those moments also don't count if most of the plan was conceived by Scotty, Bones or Spock.
You can't name one because PineKirk is rubbish.
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05-17-2013, 12:31 PM | #50 |
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The space jump.
Rescuing Spock at the beginning. Capturing Harrison. If I kept thinking about it, I think I could come up with more. Oh, after the space jump, the entire sequence up to them beaming back to the Enterprise. Also, there were more than two character moments. Kirk and Pine being dressed down. Kirk, Spock, and Pine at that one moment. Kirk, Spock, Uhura in the shuttlecraft. Kirk and Spock on at least 2, maybe 3 different occasions. It's okay for you not to like it, I'm not trying to persuade you to like it, but I do think you should be a little more fair in your reasons for disliking it, and not dismiss everything out of hand because it's not like the original series (which is kinda what it sounds like you're doing). Last edited by ryan; 05-17-2013 at 12:35 PM.. |
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