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05-27-2014, 11:39 PM | #91 |
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…to make people buy the web exclusive DX Sets?
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05-28-2014, 01:40 AM | #92 |
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I don't think anybody's motivations have been unclear, just that when new plot developments come into play, new allegiances are formed.
For example, Takatora was all for killing off 6/7ths of the world's population because he thought it was the only way to save humanity, then Kouta tells him they can save everybody by getting the Overlords to side with them. The only one that's really hard to get a grasp on is Micchy, who from what I gathered, is a massive control freak and Yoko, who seems to be developing her own character separate from Ryouma as of this latest episode. Takatora is a good example of the failings of the characterisation in this show, at least for me. When first introduced he was just entirely there for the purpose of 'shit got real' but as the series developed it turned out he was actually a misguided man with a lot of heart and honour - basically a hero. This is all fine, albeit very clichéd, but with so many Riders in this damn show pretty much all of Takatora's most important character moments happened off screen so each time he actually did appear on screen he was basically another character entirely. Everything that has happened to Takatora has been more profound for him, than it ever has for the audience. We were forced into filling in the blanks ourselves. Your own imagination has probably made you believe Takatora is a better character than he actually is, and if you go back and watch it from the start you'll see just how many leaps his character arc has, rather than smoothly playing out. Micchy is as unclear as Kaito at this point, who is my favourite piece of irony as the man obsessed with strength is the character who gets his ass beat most often.
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05-28-2014, 03:48 AM | #93 |
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I was trying to avoid specific examples but whatever.
Takatora is a good example of the failings of the characterisation in this show, at least for me. When first introduced he was just entirely there for the purpose of 'shit got real' but as the series developed it turned out he was actually a misguided man with a lot of heart and honour - basically a hero. This is all fine, albeit very clichéd, but with so many Riders in this damn show pretty much all of Takatora's most important character moments happened off screen so each time he actually did appear on screen he was basically another character entirely. Everything that has happened to Takatora has been more profound for him, than it ever has for the audience. We were forced into filling in the blanks ourselves. Your own imagination has probably made you believe Takatora is a better character than he actually is, and if you go back and watch it from the start you'll see just how many leaps his character arc has, rather than smoothly playing out. Micchy is as unclear as Kaito at this point, who is my favourite piece of irony as the man obsessed with strength is the character who gets his ass beat most often. So yeah, I think as a character Takatora is kinda amazingly well handled Overall, the personalities and motivations in this series are more show don't tell. You are gradually introduced to the characters but because it's often forced, nothing is outright explained. It is up to you the viewer to interpret things. Which I find tremendously engaging. For instance, I feel Micchy's motivations are now blatantly obvious and that's based on the sum of the evidence not the individual parts.
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05-28-2014, 10:50 AM | #94 |
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Mind. Blown.
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05-28-2014, 06:50 PM | #95 |
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I was trying to avoid specific examples but whatever.
Takatora is a good example of the failings of the characterisation in this show, at least for me. When first introduced he was just entirely there for the purpose of 'shit got real' but as the series developed it turned out he was actually a misguided man with a lot of heart and honour - basically a hero. This is all fine, albeit very clichéd, but with so many Riders in this damn show pretty much all of Takatora's most important character moments happened off screen so each time he actually did appear on screen he was basically another character entirely. Everything that has happened to Takatora has been more profound for him, than it ever has for the audience. We were forced into filling in the blanks ourselves. Your own imagination has probably made you believe Takatora is a better character than he actually is, and if you go back and watch it from the start you'll see just how many leaps his character arc has, rather than smoothly playing out. Micchy is as unclear as Kaito at this point, who is my favourite piece of irony as the man obsessed with strength is the character who gets his ass beat most often. In the case of Kaito, I think that's the whole point of his character. He's obssessed with strength, but has a flawed perspective on it. I mean it's telling that probably his strongest moments occur when he's working alongside someone. And to be fairly honest, only a few Riders seem objectively stronger than him at this point.
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05-29-2014, 01:17 AM | #96 |
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We'll agree to disagree then as I still don't like it. Being this late into the show and barely knowing a thing about the characters, minus pencilling in stuff myself is bad writing in my opinion. It's the writers job to flesh out the characters, not mine.
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05-29-2014, 01:27 AM | #97 |
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05-29-2014, 01:44 AM | #98 |
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However I also feel most of Gaim's good ideas stay on paper. I think the fights are awful, the gimmick was forgotten and despite having enough Riders to actively stump character growth, it isn't even worth it as the "everyone is an Energy Rider" business got boring after about two episodes, it's been about twenty since.
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05-30-2014, 05:17 AM | #99 |
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Well, that's 3 riders down and it was well deserved. Meanwhile, my continuing annoyance at Ryouma grows bigger, and my confusion over Kaito's character grows bigger. Why save a character by taking the blow yourself if you believe in strength? Also, I got round to translating what the overlords call themselves, and I was right!
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05-30-2014, 06:54 AM | #100 |
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Well, that's 3 riders down and it was well deserved. Meanwhile, my continuing annoyance at Ryouma grows bigger, and my confusion over Kaito's character grows bigger. Why save a character by taking the blow yourself if you believe in strength? Also, I got round to translating what the overlords call themselves, and I was right!
On some level Kaito respects that and actually wants Kouta to succeed in a way he never can. Because of Mai, maybe? Hard to say.
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