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01-30-2020, 10:35 PM | #141 |
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If you want the time when Agito Trinity shows up it 59:20. And yeah Heisei Vs Showa personally it maybe my least favaorite Rider anything. At best it a generic taisen movie at worst I feel like it damages the Showa Rider reputation in the fanbase.
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01-30-2020, 10:40 PM | #142 |
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Trinity is only the arms taken from the other two suits pasted on regular Agito, and it really doesn't look as impressive as either alternate form, so I'm honestly not that bummed that they choose to ignore it. Also that two-parter is so bizarre, like it only exists to tell the audience information but then conveniently wipes the main character's memory so he can't act on that information until they want him to.
Anyhow, his name is Gills so maybe floating in the water for weeks upon weeks won't be a big deal!? |
01-30-2020, 11:23 PM | #143 |
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It's not my favorite film, but I wouldn't call it my least favorite. I mean, it's got some positive qualities. The whole thing with Kaito and Shotaro having to find a missing dog is perfect, especially since that's Shotaro's last-ever onscreen case. And I don't know Decade, but Decade was pretty great in this. (Honestly, I've liked every Legend Rider thing Decade's shown up for. Psyched to watch that show at some point!) It's mostly, I don't remember the villain plot making any sense, even for Shocker, and the Vs Showa finale is disappointingly lame, either ending. Quote:
Trinity is only the arms taken from the other two suits pasted on regular Agito, and it really doesn't look as impressive as either alternate form, so I'm honestly not that bummed that they choose to ignore it. Also that two-parter is so bizarre, like it only exists to tell the audience information but then conveniently wipes the main character's memory so he can't act on that information until they want him to.
Nope, Gills is dead, totally dead. One of the most unbreakable rules in tokusatsu is that "dead means dead". No one survives life-threatening injuries, no one ever gets resurrected, everything is always exactly as it appears. Sorry!
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01-31-2020, 08:46 AM | #144 |
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I have... a lot of thoughts about Heisei vs Showa, most of which I've posted to this board before. Tldr is that the flaws are obvious (What Are You Doing showa riders), but they form some tight emotional stakes with their returning casts and I'm still surprised they went as hard with the main plot of the movie as making it about a dead kid. It's also far better at conveying Gaim's themes than Gaim itself in my opinion, so, there's that.
Oh and Tsukasa's back again and he's perfectly Tsukasa, so bonus points as always But this is an Agito thread, and I recall having much the same feelings as you about this two-parter! I just struggled to get through it and him losing his memories again had me pissed. I love Agito overall but I think I feel confident in calling this the low point.
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01-31-2020, 12:06 PM | #145 |
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I have... a lot of thoughts about Heisei vs Showa, most of which I've posted to this board before. Tldr is that the flaws are obvious (What Are You Doing showa riders), but they form some tight emotional stakes with their returning casts and I'm still surprised they went as hard with the main plot of the movie as making it about a dead kid. It's also far better at conveying Gaim's themes than Gaim itself in my opinion, so, there's that.
Oh and Tsukasa's back again and he's perfectly Tsukasa, so bonus points as always Quote:
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01-31-2020, 01:41 PM | #146 |
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Back on Topic, the reason episode 28 has a different tone is that it’s a filler episode that the show’s head writer had no involvement in. And given that he’s a “write everything to do with my current project I’m in charge of” guy, that’s saying something.
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01-31-2020, 02:06 PM | #147 |
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It was incredibly kind of the universe to deliver this episode to me when I was at my Lowest Agito Ebb.
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01-31-2020, 04:28 PM | #148 |
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MASKED RIDER AGITO EPISODE 29
It's hard to find fault with a delightful little Hikawa/Shouichi (with a dash of Mana) caper, but I managed it. You are welcome. There's so much fun stuff going on around the edges of this one, goofy character beats and terrific call-backs, that I wish the story had more going for it. There's a bunch of weird backstory to the victims, the fact that they were jewel thieves who stopped thieving seven years ago for some reason, got plastic surgery, and took up tennis, but that's just kind-of stupidly fun to me. It's the climax of the story that felt really slack, with a couple dumb story moves. So, the brother goes and gets the bag of cash at the bar, then gets chased by a monster. Then he goes back to the tennis club the next day to play tennis. Then he waits until night time to leave town before he's monster-murdered. Wh... why does he wait a full day to run away from the monster that's trying to kill him? Then, during the big monster fight, Hikawa, like, forgets the code to unlock his gun? This is not his first monster fight as G3-X! I know he's been off for the last three episodes, but, my dude. There's the usual "Hikawa is not great at his job", and then there's this. Sloppy writing on the monster plot this time out! Luckily, everything around the monster plot is aces. (Tennis reference!) Shouichi and Hikawa both are unbelievably weird in this one, with Shouichi more childlike than ever and Hikawa becoming a boastful jock. It's a little weird, in that they're both fighting over access to a teenage girl's free time, but it's so relentlessly funny and bonkers that I can forgive that part. Shit, I can even forgive the Shouichi Gets His Memories Back For A Story thing, since the opening to this story clearly can't explain why that story was told, either, but is ready to move things along. It's not a Mea Culpa, exactly, but it feels like everyone involved would like to forget those episodes existed, and, hey, wouldn't it be fun to see Shouichi and Hikawa play tennis? Huh? It's a fun TV show again! Also, Gills! Still dead!
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01-31-2020, 08:35 PM | #149 |
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I guess I'm the only one who liked these episodes? Pretty typical for me, I suppose.
Mind you, I watched Agito years ago, so I have no clue if they were actually any good or not anymore. In fact, I'll take your word that they were a disappointing misfire. But I do remember them a lot just on the merit of how weird the idea was. It was so surreal to have Shouichi put in that position all of a sudden. Like, the show has been teasing these little clues for half the run, and now it's basically stolen the lead character off the same page as you, and forced you to watch him basically go about his day, while you have no idea what he's doing or why, because you didn't learn all the truths when he did (which also made it not that surprising when it doesn't stick). It's probably less cool than I remember it being. But for better or worse (worse?), it was an unique little experiment, even if, like the direction, it didn't pay off. This one, though. This is my favorite episode of the show. Yasuko Kobayashi is a treasure, but I don't need to tell you that, because you've seen OOO. Even in just that little span of 20-some minutes, the attention she gives to characterization shines. That bit at the end where Ryou's tough guy facade starts cracking after that kid shows him sympathy when he finds out Ryou is Gills? Too good, man, I tell ya'. No clue about the 4:3 thing, though. It may legitimately have just been another strange stylistic choice.
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01-31-2020, 11:30 PM | #150 |
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But I do remember them a lot just on the merit of how weird the idea was. It was so surreal to have Shouichi put in that position all of a sudden. Like, the show has been teasing these little clues for half the run, and now it's basically stolen the lead character off the same page as you, and forced you to watch him basically go about his day, while you have no idea what he's doing or why, because you didn't learn all the truths when he did (which also made it not that surprising when it doesn't stick).
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This one, though. This is my favorite episode of the show. Yasuko Kobayashi is a treasure, but I don't need to tell you that, because you've seen OOO. Even in just that little span of 20-some minutes, the attention she gives to characterization shines. That bit at the end where Ryou's tough guy facade starts cracking after that kid shows him sympathy when he finds out Ryou is Gills? Too good, man, I tell ya'.
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