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06-30-2018, 05:05 PM | #11 |
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I'm not sure if xenophobia has anything to do with it. I've seen anime fans (a lot of them) don't bother to give tokusatsu a try. Also despite K-pop being popular in the US, it's pretty surprising the same K-pop fandom won't branch out to J-pop.
So it's not xenophobia, I think there's double standard on how people view K-pop and J-pop. I bet the same goes for toku shows, and people that watch K-drama won't branch out to toku.
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06-30-2018, 05:13 PM | #12 |
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Source: Netizenbuzz article-'Produce 101' reps deny similarities to AKB48 So how are you so sure that people that don't bash or hate Toku aren't secretly fans of Korean TV drama/pop culture. Yes, there are cases of K-pop getting too much praise and J-pop getting shamed. So it's possible the people that said Japanese can't act could also praise Korean actors. |
06-30-2018, 07:35 PM | #13 |
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You'll be surprised how many fans of K-pop/Hallyu do sometime discriminate against Japanese pop culture like J-pop:
Source: Netizenbuzz article-'Produce 101' reps deny similarities to AKB48 So how are you so sure that people that don't bash or hate Toku aren't secretly fans of Korean TV drama/pop culture. Yes, there are cases of K-pop getting too much praise and J-pop getting shamed. So it's possible the people that said Japanese can't act could also praise Korean actors. I don't think our statements contradict each other -- and in fact what you posted I already knew about and had disdain for. It simply shows that discrimination can come about in multiple ways.
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06-30-2018, 07:52 PM | #14 |
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Could be, toku is not that big like before ?
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06-30-2018, 08:07 PM | #15 |
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Strangest response I've got.... was from a guy I tried showing Ex-Aid and Gaim to. He gave up 3 episodes into Gaim and 6 episodes into Ex-Aid.
"It's not anime." And he then proceeded to show me Kamen Teacher and one of those really dumb magic school war shows, along with the 4kids dub of YuGiOh, citing that they (particularly the dumb magic school war one and Kamen Teacher) were better than Toku because they didn't have gimmicks or suits. Just because they were animated, had a higher budget, could show fantastic worlds better than a low-budget live-action weekly show, and had powers they didn't augment from plastic, they were "better". And also that they got into the plot faster than 12 episodes (even though two episodes of Kamen Teacher is two episodes of KR, and KT is based on a comic), because he's an impatient person- he said so himself. He also said that, from the plot synopsis, Build sounded better compared to what he saw. Little did he know, it started out similarly (and I still don't think he'd like it, especially with the bland villain and forced comedy it's pushing). He and I aren't exactly close friends anymore, due to a lack of common interests. As well as his bullheadedness for not being willing to withstand about 6 hours of viewing to get into a good and riveting plot. To him, animation and Kamen Teacher are better because they, quote, "don't waste time", unquote. Last edited by MangaArtist18; 06-30-2018 at 08:14 PM.. |
07-01-2018, 09:19 AM | #16 |
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Unless South Korea can make toku great again. Quote:
Strangest response I've got.... was from a guy I tried showing Ex-Aid and Gaim to. He gave up 3 episodes into Gaim and 6 episodes into Ex-Aid.
"It's not anime." And he then proceeded to show me Kamen Teacher and one of those really dumb magic school war shows, along with the 4kids dub of YuGiOh, citing that they (particularly the dumb magic school war one and Kamen Teacher) were better than Toku because they didn't have gimmicks or suits. Just because they were animated, had a higher budget, could show fantastic worlds better than a low-budget live-action weekly show, and had powers they didn't augment from plastic, they were "better". And also that they got into the plot faster than 12 episodes (even though two episodes of Kamen Teacher is two episodes of KR, and KT is based on a comic), because he's an impatient person- he said so himself. He also said that, from the plot synopsis, Build sounded better compared to what he saw. Little did he know, it started out similarly (and I still don't think he'd like it, especially with the bland villain and forced comedy it's pushing). |
07-01-2018, 12:54 PM | #17 |
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I have seen Anime & Manga fans that don't want to watch toku shows and movies because of cheep special effects or they look too childish. While they like Shonen anime & manga when Kamen Rider, Ultraman and Super Sentai are pretty much live action Shonen anime & manga (aim to young boys).
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07-01-2018, 04:56 PM | #18 |
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07-01-2018, 05:16 PM | #19 |
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Well after seeing Legend Hero, and several K-dramas with special effect that some would considered as Toku. Also add the breakout Chinese fantasy drama, Ice Fantasy.
I wouldn't say Toku first, but I want South Korea to make a K-drama/K-toku fusion show which emphasize on more drama and less campiness. |
07-01-2018, 11:59 PM | #20 |
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why would you want less campiness
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