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03-20-2017, 11:53 PM | #41 |
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03-20-2017, 11:58 PM | #42 |
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I wonder what reactions would be if they made a Northstar or Batwoman film now...
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03-21-2017, 12:15 AM | #44 |
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To the person who said monkeys cannot give consent. Technically speaking humans are monkeys.
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03-21-2017, 12:46 AM | #45 |
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I have negative interest in getting involved in this discussion, but this is, technically speaking, and even not technically speaking, completely incorrect. Humans are not monkeys. Methinks you were thinking of apes, if anything. It's also a completely irrelevant point to make. But, you know. |
03-21-2017, 12:53 AM | #46 |
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Oh, come on now. Considering how that's been news for a bit, no one in their right mind would touch that subject in this film with a 100 foot pole, let alone a 10 foot one.
There's trying to homage and then there's outright offensive without intent and that would be the latter. Here's the thing, this is a reboot in a new universe with a new take on everything. Since that's the fact that's in place ahead of time before this news hit, so be it. So, Trini's a Lesbian this time 'round? Plenty of people are, there's nothing new or shocking under the sun these days. Now, if it had been done differently like they did with Star Trek Beyond, then people would have a legit complaint. While it was an alternate time line, it was the same universe and it started from the same universe, it only deviated on a time level. Because of this, Sulu shouldn't have been made a Gay character, even George Takei said as much. THAT'S pandering. THAT'S exploitation. Let's reverse it for a moment. Let's say you took a previously Gay character, rebooted their universe ...sorta (ala Star Trek) and made them Straight. People would LOSE their minds. That's really what they did with Star Trek, but they're not doing it with Power Rangers. I think people will worry too much about it and it'll affect ticket sales and cause some problems, but I think we'll watch the movie, the scene will come along and be pretty much ineffective fluff in which she comes out and moves on. Do they need to make it the focus of the film? No. It also doesn't sound like it IS the focus of the film, so it is what it is, just let it roll. |
03-21-2017, 12:59 AM | #47 |
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Except you are wrong. Anyone can be whatever they want. Anyone can love whoever they want. In fact, I am a big advocate of gay rights and I've got several friends who are gay. Hell, if someone wants to fucka monkey, let them.
However, it gets insulting when people are taking advantage of it. Not every show/movie has to feature a gay character. If they do, great. If not, whatever. All that matters is how well written and entertaining it is. Plus, this is supposed to be Power Rangers, not who is in love with whom. Save that for an Oscar bait movie. The main focus on Power Rangers should be teenagers fighting alien monsters. I'm gonna sidestep the old "some of my best friends are gay" chestnut and I'm not gonna dwell on how insulting it is to have my love life compared to monkey fucking. Who is being taken advantage of by Power Rangers featuring a lesbian ranger? This makes no sense. Where was your anti-romance outrage when Tommy and Kimberly were in a relationship? Where is your indignation for the yellow and white Ninja Steel rangers being in a relationship? Where is your long internet diatribe about Time Force's various romances being so inappropriate? Face it man, romance is part of Power Ranger's DNA, and if hetero romance can be depicted for 800+ episodes of TV, I think you can chill out for a minute regarding a minor gay subplot in one movie. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 03-21-2017 at 01:17 AM.. |
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03-21-2017, 01:16 AM | #49 |
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If this is directed towards me, that's not at all what I was saying. Like I said, the representation is fine, I'm quite alright with Trini or anyone being gay, it's the gimmick-ifying way people think they're using it.
The dilema here is if it is it really earnest representation if they're only doing it to drive up ticket sales? And like I said, I don't think the movie itself is doing this, because before now nobody even knew because it was never mentioned or promoted, nor is it being treated like a big twist. But thanks to the likes of Ghostbusters, a lot of people are conditioned to assume the most cynical of motives for things like this. After all, this isn't a heartfelt passion project indie movie, it's a generic, souless, corperate machine designed to hock toys. And the thing is, nobody here has stated they're against her sexuality, rather than they're against it's use as a gimmick. Nobody here has stated that. I certainly didn't, and if I came across that way I apologise, but I mean my best friend was gay and he was the nicest, most considerate person I ever knew. Look, even if the romance is poorly handled and the characters are thinly drawn, we need to live in a world where gay romances are allowed to be as bad and hamfisted as many straight romances in film and tv. THAT would be true equality. Besides, gay characters have historically been BOX OFFICE POISON, so if it's a "gimmick," it's a really dumb and counterproductive one. Having a gay character means that you can't exhibit your film in Russia, China, and countless other nations with backwards, antiquated views about sexuality -- and that means a significant loss of potential revenue for the studio. If a gay character shows up in a piece of big budget mainstream media, you can bet your ass that the creators fought tooth and nail against risk averse studio execs for his/her inclusion. They did it in spite of the financial risk of alienating conservative moviegoers with cash to spend. I appreciate your open mindedness when it comes to gay characters in media, I just don't think the gimmick argument makes any sense. |
03-21-2017, 01:17 AM | #50 |
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I dunno, it just seems like two unrelated, hell, it applies even to blood siblings it seems, guys can't have a meaningful relationship with each other without people questioning their sexuality. It... actually is part of why I don't like the changes in Beauty and the Beast. Not so much that he's gay, personally stopped giving a shit back when Gobber got Word of Gayed, but the reasoning behind it... that and... dang it, I don't know how to do spoilers on this forum... |
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