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01-20-2014, 10:54 AM | #11 |
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You say that like Noah worked already. Hyde was the stoic, badass, grief stricken second in command. Noah was the Billy stereotype who had no confidence in his own ability. I don't think they could have matched up more opposite characters than they did with him, and it was utterly ridiculous in the worst possible way.
"I dunno whether I'm cut out to be a Ranger!" Noah would moan, before morphin and shooting his bow one handed while doing backflips, before single handedly taking down a monster and standing dramatically as if it was effortless. I guess they just expected the kids not to notice, like with the cards. I can understand wanting to keep a continuity like they did with the original series, but if that's what Saban wanted, then I would've preferred that they stuck with the Samurai team because Megaforce has been extremely awkward to say the least. I think Kevin would have made a much better Gokai Blue. |
01-20-2014, 10:58 AM | #12 |
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They really should have gone with new actors...I still refuse to accept Noah as Gokai blue, and its going to look extremely awkward when Joe's personality comes through during the fights and then he goes back to being the nerdy "Billy" stereotype afterward. Also the fact that they have to morph into their Megaforce suits and then treat the Gokaiger suits as a Super Mode really bothers me...Goseiger keys existed for a reason.
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You say that like Noah worked already. Hyde was the stoic, badass, grief stricken second in command. Noah was the Billy stereotype who had no confidence in his own ability. I don't think they could have matched up more opposite characters than they did with him, and it was utterly ridiculous in the worst possible way.
"I dunno whether I'm cut out to be a Ranger!" Noah would moan, before morphin and shooting his bow one handed while doing backflips, before single handedly taking down a monster and standing dramatically as if it was effortless. I guess they just expected the kids not to notice, like with the cards. As for using Gokaiger as a power-up, They couldn't use the full season of Gokaiger due to the Rangers that came before Zyuranger so expect to see a lot more original footage. Making Samurai into 2 seasons you could say was just an "accident". Megaforce into Super Megaforce a lucky coincidence since they could only use half of Gokaiger anyway. I have a good feeling they won't explain too much as to why they are pirates but it's no different seeing a bunch of dino rangers become ninjas or summoning mystical Chinese beast, sooooooo enjoy the ride.
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01-20-2014, 11:01 AM | #13 |
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I guess just after the awesomeness that was the Disney era, Saban's utter laziness is just extra painful. MMPR shouldn't get a free ride, but as it was their first venture, I can be easier on it. But after TWENTY YEARS Megaforce's non existent plot and team of heroes who don't even slightly match their sentai counterparts creating absolutely zero continuity from unmorphed to morphed fights is just abysmal.
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01-20-2014, 11:10 AM | #14 |
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I stand by my statement that the entire cast is horrible for the suit actors. I agree that Noah wasn't a good Gosei Blue either as well as a horrible Gokai Blue and when he starts wielding 5 swords at once and fighting with one hand behind his back, that's going to be even more apparent. Jake, however, I think is the worst off. Jake is a heavy hitter with an axe as Gosei Black, but as Gokai Green he runs away from the enemies and sets up traps and shoots from a distance rather then confront them directly and is often overwhelmed during close combat and fights by dodging and rolling over the enemies. I know they tried to make him a bit more awkward in unmorphed fights, but it still is a big difference from Don's distinctive fighting style. Watching Troy while his body is acting cocky as hell saying crap like "never underestimate the teamwork of humans!' and "Together, we'll overcome anything!" is going to awkward too.
I think, out of all the seasons, Gokaiger is a series with the most distinctive connections between their personalities and their in-suit scenes. They really went above and beyond showing off who the characters are in their fights and I think that is a HUGE problem for Super Megaforce. Not only do they show off their personalities in their base forms, using the exact same weapon set as each other in completely different ways that mirror they're own personalities, but often using previous rangers' powers in their own way. Having a bland set of MMPR copycats was just the worst possible move they could've made for a Gokaiger adaption. But yeah, that's sort of off-topic. On the pictures, outside of me thinking they all look out of place in pirate suits, those expressions are awful. Whoever told Jake's actor that was a good pose and expression combo is crazy. Quote:
I expect Silver will be introduced very early and they'll go on with footage from there. Pre-Zyu Sentai were used in the first 18 episodes much more often because once Gokai Silver came in, the majority of the Gokai Changes were all teams with sixths, which were all Post-Zyu. Last edited by Starscream Gaga; 01-20-2014 at 11:15 AM.. |
01-20-2014, 11:18 AM | #15 |
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From that, it seems that Noah and Jake should really have swapped round for the second season.
Oh and that I should probably give Gokaiger another go.
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01-20-2014, 11:27 AM | #16 |
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Argeed. By now Saban has to figure out that we want a team that's not just "MMPR 2.0"
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01-20-2014, 11:34 AM | #17 |
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I guess just after the awesomeness that was the Disney era, Saban's utter laziness is just extra painful. MMPR shouldn't get a free ride, but as it was their first venture, I can be easier on it. But after TWENTY YEARS Megaforce's non existent plot and team of heroes who don't even slightly match their sentai counterparts creating absolutely zero continuity from unmorphed to morphed fights is just abysmal.
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I stand by my statement that the entire cast is horrible for the suit actors. I agree that Noah wasn't a good Gosei Blue either as well as a horrible Gokai Blue and when he starts wielding 5 swords at once and fighting with one hand behind his back, that's going to be even more apparent. Jake, however, I think is the worst off. Jake is a heavy hitter with an axe as Gosei Black, but as Gokai Green he runs away from the enemies and sets up traps and shoots from a distance rather then confront them directly and is often overwhelmed during close combat and fights by dodging and rolling over the enemies. I know they tried to make him a bit more awkward in unmorphed fights, but it still is a big difference from Don's distinctive fighting style. Watching Troy while his body is acting cocky as hell saying crap like "never underestimate the teamwork of humans!' and "Together, we'll overcome anything!" is going to awkward too.
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I highly, highly doubt that. In fact I'd say the fact that the much hyped "US Legend War" only has Rangers that appear on-screen in the Gokaiger War footage without Sentai characters in the background 100% confirms that there will be a minuscule amount of new footage.
I expect Silver will be introduced very early and they'll go on with footage from there. Pre-Zyu Sentai were used in the first 18 episodes much more often because once Gokai Silver came in, the majority of the Gokai Changes were all teams with sixths, which were all Post-Zyu.
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01-20-2014, 11:41 AM | #18 |
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Wow the fact that someone said that to me, of all people, was hilarious.
I don't want Megaforce to BE Goseiger but if you go back to the likes of In Space, Lost Galaxy, Time Force etc Saban created entirely new stories, entirely new characters, entirely new worlds, while creating a whole continuity and how much you appreciate the finished product is largely superfluous as you can still appreciate all the effort Saban went into making Power Rangers its own thing. Megaforce on the other hand is 90% Goseiger clips, with all of the context stripped out while still following the same story beats as the Goseiger episode it is taken from. Then awkwardly tacking on a scene of a bunch of highschoolers drinking smoothies during the credits. Apparently these teens are our Rangers? But with personalities so different, and characterisation so non existent, the Red Ranger could be that bug kid for all I know. As much as I HATE straight adaptations, at least do it properly. Samurai at least incorporated the good aspects of Shinkenger for the most part, Megaforce doesn't even do that. It just takes all of Goseiger's fights and dubs over them. Even the much derided Disney era, which I LOVED, often directly adapted the sentais basic plot outline, but even then they created new villains, new characters and actually spent money on making it work. Megaforce has no excuses.
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01-20-2014, 11:49 AM | #19 |
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As soon as you get over the fact that the Megaforce Rangers ARE NOT the Goseiger or Gokaiger, you'll be better off. The suit acting has always been a problem in Power Rangers, but it does help when you see a bit more American footage and the actors in costume which we didn't get much of in Megaforce.
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The fact that they had to make so much new footage is the reason why Megaforce was so cheap looking. Remember, Saban is cheap so to think that we ever had a chance of a 40 episode season of an "American Gokaiger" series us unrealistic. At this point they are basically coping their MMPR strategy and using 100% Japanese footage and original footage to bridge the gaps, unlike late 90's Saban and Disney just wanted to tell a story regardless. Saban wants to spend $100.00 and get a million back basically LOL!
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01-20-2014, 11:51 AM | #20 |
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At this point either they don't know what to do anymore or they are just being lazy and making a 24min toy advertisement. Quote:
I think that making the Power Rangers act like they do in their suits out of suits is a necessary thing. You can change the story, the enemies, everything, but you have to make it believable. Plenty of Power Ranger series have managed that, but I don't buy it for Megaforce and I really doubt I'm going to buy it for Super Megaforce.
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We've been told they've done a lot of new footage for Super Megaforce, but I'm going to have to see it to believe it. As I said, in the trailer, we see the Rangers who will be in the Super Megaforce Legend War and a lot are missing, notably all the ones that appeared alongside Sentai-only characters in the Gokaiger Legend War. The fact they wouldn't make new footage for the Rangers that had unusable footage implies to me that there will be nowhere near as much new footage as they claimed.
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