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07-17-2018, 08:39 AM | #521 |
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And that's only the most recent example. Don't know about creating "flashpoints" at will or intentionally, though that may get attempted at some point. But like Den-O and Kiva, Time travel has ramifications which will likely be explored and used. (BTW. The correct term for that is "Zero point" as in "Zero hour". Meaning point of origin where things can change. Flashpoint is called flashpoint because it was about the Flash. So if the show makes mention of it, it'll likely use the proper terms, not the comic marketing terms. Terminator for example, deals in "Zero Points", as in the fulcrums to which the future can be changed in different directions because of divergent points. Like how Doctor Who plays with the concept of fixed points and other timey wimey elements. Fixed points are moments in history that can't be altered or everything else alters. They are also "Zero points" as in the zero hour to which everything else grew out of. Like Dominoes essentially. Change one's orientation, or remove it, and the rest either don't fall or barely get tapped to fall and only wobble, or sometimes do still fall. Depending on how closely placed together they are or how the orientation on them has changed.) TBH, I'm expecting this series to end in a way that it sets up the next series as something the rampant time travel causes to set in motion. To then likely like Decade had, a follow up special or series of specials. That then fully bleeds over into the full Rider 50th of the new generation as something entirely new and fresh with a full show theme that hasn't been used yet. I expect the next series to be very classic influenced though of before these 20 series. The one after is the one that'll go full forward into new. So Zi-O as 20 causes 21 to happen, then 22 is full refresh. Marketing-wise, with the story elements they've presented us, that seems the best way to get the denliner rolling and picking up speed to crash into the next era with all engines revving at full force. Like an expectation barrier that's about to be shattered. Kind of like how OOO's henshins. Two coins on each side, then the middle to go forward with the change. TBH, I think Toei has been building to something big that no one could expect with these next four series. And whatever comes after. Also find it interesting that W is a vertical split of two beings, then build is slanted. Now Zi-O is horizon line/horizontal. Like turning a dial, or even spinning a clock face. Last edited by Librarian; 07-17-2018 at 08:53 AM.. |
07-17-2018, 10:53 AM | #522 |
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Wouldn't be wrong for Zi-O if he had the ability to change stories from some riders' timelines?
Like say... - Ghost - Wizard - Hibiki - Faiz - Ryuki - Kuuga |
07-17-2018, 03:59 PM | #523 |
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Wonder if Zi-O will have bits of this:
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07-18-2018, 01:45 PM | #524 |
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Cross-Z is the first campaign item, he'll be included with the first wave of Zi-O Drivers
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07-18-2018, 02:37 PM | #525 |
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Someone helpfully posted a timeline of forms in the "First scans" thread, and it seems likely to me that suggests a structure for the early part of the show.
Although the series is supposed to start in September, the first stuff on the timeline is for late August. At this point, it's not a surprise when the final episodes of a Rider series feature the next Rider (or at least the next Rider's evil twin for no apparent reason), but it occurs to me that Build could segue into Zi-O in a way that never would've worked for prior Rider series, but doing so would mean that the story of Build might functionally end a couple of episodes before the series ends. (A bit like Wizard, I suppose.) Also, the picture suggests that Zi-O will have visited eleven different series and acquired the Ride Watches for twelve previous Riders in its first three-and-a-half months. If the show has a Decade-like structure, this means we'd be blowing through prior Rider series at a breakneck pace. Of course, I'm assuming that as in Decade, Zi-O will acquire a new Rider power in each storyline, but some form debuts (like Zi-O using the Ghost Ride Watch a month and a half after Gates) are spread out over time. I'm hoping that rather than being linear, Zi-O will be a series that can bounce back and forth. Otherw Well, and I'm really, really hoping that the series has its own strong story elements, since one of the ways in which Decade disappointed me was that it didn't have much of a story of its own outside tribute episodes. Also curious: why does the Wizard Ride Armor take up two slots? Does the story actually slow down and do something other than introduce toys for a week? That's usually when recent shows have started to get good. Hm. Just noticed they also hit every neo-Heisei series before mid-December, with just a hint at the first nine with the 555 Armor Time for Gates. Probably not a coincidence that we'll see the Hei-sabre around that time, as well as what I suspect will be the first proper upgrade in Decade. (Well, unless that's an entirely different Rider using the Decade armor, either a new character to Tsukasa.) Last edited by Tokumonkey; 07-18-2018 at 03:07 PM.. |
07-18-2018, 10:30 PM | #526 |
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I'm expecting zi-o to suck at ghost levels. Not as bad as decade, but a little worse than den-o.
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07-18-2018, 10:49 PM | #527 |
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Any reason or just a hunch?
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07-19-2018, 01:32 AM | #528 |
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So it seems that even the show suits show that Zi-O and Gates interchange the armors. On the underside of Gates(Ghost)'s arm, you can see that instead of black armor, it's silver, which is in line with what Zi-O(Ghost) looks like. Not sure how I feel about having the back of the armor look just like the front but in another color scheme.
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07-19-2018, 03:07 AM | #529 |
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07-19-2018, 10:50 AM | #530 |
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It amazes me how people seriously thought Bandai/Toei was going to do a female main Rider. That's literally why Pretty Cure exists.
And really ZI-O being pink was an indicator of girlishness to you guys, did you forget Decade exists? Last edited by Yellow Ranger; 07-19-2018 at 10:52 AM.. |
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