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11-14-2021, 12:03 AM | #11 |
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That was a pretty good debut fight for Live honestly.
Quick, stylish, and it had one of my favorite styles which is gun-fu. |
11-14-2021, 04:06 AM | #12 |
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Rewatching and, aww I like that end bit Sakura, Ikki, and Daiji. Just going to be a little sad (and imo kinda disapppointing) that we're heading into another sibling conflict already. Live's debut is great, reminds me of Slash's debut, still a little underwhelmed by a suit, only remedied by how great the action and Nakata's performance is. He'll still look great next to FENIX soldiers.
Hiromi's first detransformation noooo Speaking of Hiromi. The way they expressed Hiromi's sadness is pretty dumb, especially for a chekov's gun. I agree with that. But I do like that it shows the softness in Hiromi is covered by his mind of steel. Very cool. Hatred and Jealousy is what fuels a Demon's growth So, there you go. That's how Kagerou would be a little weaker going forward, now that Daiji seems to have less resentment towards Ikki-nii. |
11-14-2021, 05:36 AM | #13 |
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No, children are not that stupid and pretty much every other Rider show knows it. Sure, they lay out the morals often, but they don't effectively turn towards the camera and say "Sakura is feeling powerless. She has a demon and with it inner turmoil. I wonder what will happen to her." That blatant lampshading is not a thing in other shows, they are fine with you missing something if you understand most of it, Revice is not.
Episode 9 had three scenes for Sakura, the first is the least egregious since it was just the camera focusing on her being worried for a long while. The second and third are so much worse, in the second George tells her she'd probably has a powerful demon, which is just signposting her development, and the karate scene that lets her state out the question if power even makes happy and that's basically her motivation and arc through the show with very high possibility. And with that, I basically know everything that is important about her, spoonfeed to me, without ever actually engaging with the show on my own terms. I hate this style of writing. It treats its viewers like idiots and no, children are not idiots, they will get the basic stuff without this excessive amount of handholding. And yes, I think Saber was better in that department. It didn't mind just hinting at plot points, like the first Calibur's glove that comes back later without ever really pointing at it, or Daishinji potentially being on the autism spectrum, with his inability to deal with large crowds and his immense social awkwardness that fades once interacting with his interests. In Revice I feel like Vice would just keep talking about how awkward he is, instead of just letting it be part of the scene organically. In short, the show feels like its stopping me from actively engaging with it on any level past the surface level, something I never experienced in any other Rider show.
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11-14-2021, 05:51 AM | #14 |
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Edit: I would say though, that Saber isn't completely absolved of the issue you stated. Though I suppose the image below wouldn't be as egregious as the Sakura ones you mentioned. Last edited by TheRaizin; 11-14-2021 at 06:15 AM.. |
11-14-2021, 06:26 AM | #15 |
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Still trying to wrap my head around Ikki disappearing from a photo again. Is it going to turn into something like Den-O where Ikki will be forgotten?
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11-14-2021, 06:52 AM | #16 |
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And, well, a lot of people actually forgot that "The world is destined to end" bit was even a thing once Calibur returned. Saber in generall loves to offhandedly mention something, like the 4 Wisegods, and not mention it again until its important. Revice feels more like it's constantly reminding me of the things it wants to me remember. And yeah, Saber's not perfect, but I actually liked conecting the dots there, something I'm currently missing in Revice. There is no "Ohhh! That came back!? I didn't expect that" it's more, "Yeah, no, I figured that'd happen."
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11-14-2021, 07:01 AM | #17 |
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Idk, seems kinda weird they would have magic stuff in a primarily technology-based rider. But then again... We still don't know what Giffu is about. |
11-14-2021, 07:06 AM | #18 |
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No comment on whether other shows did it better or worse but yeah, I'll definitely agree that Revice's story is so far just checking off 'expected' boxes and little else.
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11-14-2021, 07:20 AM | #19 |
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Episode was just kind of alright. Live's debut was neat, but I already miss the sword. I liked them hammering in that Kagerou was Ikki's fault, and I liked Sakura being confronted by what's her name.
And that's about it. Vice continues to be incredibly annoying, peering into characters' heads is a lame power that will most likely be incredibly useful but he likely won't use unless it's for a cheap gag like it was here. Everything being painfully spelled out was also really annoying, too.
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11-14-2021, 07:56 AM | #20 |
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While i like this episode conceptually i wish it split to 2 Episodes at least, Kinda too fast paced for my taste
Also isn't bracio Vi-stamp still in proto Version? AKA not have Zio relief yet hmm is this a Mistake or will be relevant? Well Yeah Everything bit spelled out in this Episode thata Why this is the first time i feel This Episode kinda ehh Also to Me Saber is definition of So much Setup with no Pay off |
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