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07-05-2018, 10:47 PM | #1 |
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(I'm leaving Exotic out of the poll and putting both Mystic combinations as one selection cause I've already hit the poll limit)
Gosei Great Goseiger was pretty odd in that there were essentially 2 mainline gimmicks. There's the Gosei Cards which is what they use to summon their powers and almost everything else, and then there's the Gosei Headers which outside a few of the roleplay weapons, was pretty much just a gimmick exclusive to the mechas. The Headers feel like something the designers just came up with because they couldn't figure out a way to incorporate the Gosei Cards into the mechas and thus needed some unifiying gimmick for all the mechas. Suffice to say, it had mixed results. I think Gosei Great exemplifies this as it fits firmly in the okay category. Not bad but also not too spectacular either. The Angel motif I feel could have been emphasized more since it's only really present on the head. Perhaps the dragon wings could have been moved to the back. The colour scheme is for the most part solid and header plugs certainly aren't as obtuse as they are on the toy. Again, it's for the most part just okay, nothing really wrong with it but nothing that makes it stand out in particular. Seaick/Landick/Skick Gosei Great I'm grouping these three forms together since they are mostly the same thing, just attaching three heads to Gosei Great, and they are necessary for Hyper Gosei Great. All three of these are really just bleh. They are supremely simple and the only noteworthy additions are the new heads, all of which I find far too big with maybe the exception of Taka Header. There's really nothing interesting about any of them. Exotic/Mystic Gosei Great I group these two together cause they are different from the other two combinations and aren't used for Hyper Gosei Great. Exotic is just there really. More dragon heads, that's about it. Woo /s. Mystic is slightly more interesting but also looks incredibly lopsided. Like Exotic, it feels like a combination that's just there. The only other noteworthy aspect of the Mystic brothers is the combination with Datas. Datas Hyper Datas Hyper is in a sense our secondary mecha though in concept he's the same as Daigoyou which kinda unique and I actually think it's one of the better looking mechas in Goseiger. It's a pretty clean design, the boxing gloves are cute, and I mean, it's a mecha made from an arcade machine. That's pretty adorable. Mystic Datas Hyper Mystic Datas Hyper however is a little odd. I mean I kinda like that the egg has become giant boxing gloves but the head propeller does fall into the really silly realm. Hyper Gosei Great Welp..........at least they got the "everything combines" mecha out of the way first. In the spirit of G-12 and Samurai Haoh, this is just a mess. I'll admit, it's impressive that they managed to stick all the Headers there. Of course that comes at the cost of it having a totally unappealing aesthetic. About the only thing "cool" is the new helmet but it's buried under the sea of heads. Just yeah, it's not very good. Gosei Ground Arguably the best looking Goseiger mecha, at least I think so anyways. It has a really solid silhouette, it looks really powerful, and the colours mostly work well together though I think the Knight Brothers stick out just a little too much. It just overall looks really good. Ground Gosei Great Not bad of a combination, it certainly a step up from Hyper Gosei Great. There are some weird aesthetics choices, like how the wings are now on the midsection, and it's a little lame that the head is just a slightly altered version of Gosei Grounds head. Still I think the combination looks decent enough, I especially like the way the feet are formed, and the Gosei Lancer looks cool as well, probably the best usage of the Header gimmick. Gosei Ultimate Gosei Ultimate............ugh. Okay, straight to the point, Gosei Ultimate is terrible. It has to be one of lamest looking mechas in Sentai and for the final mecha in the series, that's a really bad thing to say. I don't know where to start. I guess the proportions which totally suck. Giant limbs and a giant torso make it seem likes it's going for this big, powerful aesthetic but to me, it just straight up looks fat. The Ultimate Swords thus look incredibly dinky in its arms. I also really, really don't like the head. The best way I can describe it is that it looks soft. Nothing about it really conveys aggressiveness, it doesn't tell me that this is some battle ready mecha. It's alternate form is also such a complete departure aesthetic wise from the other Gosei Machines that it's kinda distracting. The last thing I guess I'll mention is that its usage of the Header gimmick only really works with itself. The whole gimmick of the five heads coming together to form one big head only works with the Miracle Headers. Use any other Header and you just get a un-descriptive mess. Ultimate Gosei Great Yeah this is barely a combination. It's a backpack, whoopty doo. I mean, I like that Gosei Great gets to use the Ultimate Swords since they look much better in its arms but that about it. I mean what else is there to say, it's a giant jet pack, that's it. Gosei Wonder This is pretty fine. The attempt to retool Gosei Dragon into Gosei Bird I think mostly works and I do like the new Headers and how they try to transform the Gosei Machines into new animals. The exception is the Kabuto Header, seriously what were they thinking with this one. Gosei Wonder itself looks nice, the additions such as the new helmet help distinct it from Gosei Great, and the Gosei Bird Ax is really cool. Ground Hyper Gosei Great It's just Hyper Gosei Great with more heads, nothing much else to say. It's kinda amazing that they were able to fit all of them there, but it's still just Hyper Gosei Great. Last edited by Byg42; 07-06-2018 at 12:59 PM.. |
07-05-2018, 11:01 PM | #2 |
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I’m gonna go for the hot take and said that Goseiger has some of my favorite mecha, definitely like them better than the season that came before this. Gosei Great is my favorite, and was actually the first Sentai mecha I ever owned.
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07-05-2018, 11:08 PM | #3 |
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I like Hyper Gosei Great. They were given a gimmick, and declared "By god, we'll use the fuck out of it!" So having all 10 additional headders attach to it was fun.
Honestly, I wish Gosei Ground Great made use of the other 9 Headders. Make prime use of the ports the figure was designed with. Instead, the wings hang off the hips and face backwards, basically nullifying 4 ports. I think Goseiger should have made use of the headder gimmick more. Only 2 official combinations make use of the ports on Shark and Phoenix, and both were used, what, once each? Goseiger should have embraced the headder gimmick, rather than just haphazardly make use of it. I dig the Skick/Seaick/Landick combinations as well. While it's not as interesting as past series' arm changes, the different head for each combo gives it an air of uniqueness. And seeing Seaick Gosei Great against GokaiOh was just good fun! Datas Hyper and Gosei Ground are both two solid designs as well. Ultimate is fuckugly and I hate it.
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07-06-2018, 03:24 AM | #4 |
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Guess my favorite.
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07-06-2018, 07:29 AM | #5 |
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Gosei Great is overall balanced design-wise I think. Personally the best out of everything though is Seaick Gosei Great.
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07-06-2018, 07:37 AM | #6 |
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Goseiger had one of the best red rangers, yet one of the worst mecha in the freaking series.
All of the mecha did nothing to stand out, they looked okay, but so bland. |
07-06-2018, 09:12 AM | #7 |
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I've always thought Gosei Great itself is a pretty cool mech design, but all of its power ups look really dumb, especially the ostrich.
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07-06-2018, 12:20 PM | #8 |
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I regret not getting these when Megaforce was out in stores.
That said, that Ultra Gosei Great Grand Megazord (AKA Megaforce Ultrazord) is devastatingly awesome.
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07-06-2018, 12:23 PM | #9 |
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Adding to your statement Ultimate Gosei Great is basically a robot with a giant mechanical kite on its back. And Ground Hyper Gosei Great would make an awesome Lovecraftian monster.
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07-07-2018, 02:19 AM | #10 |
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Has far as best possible finishers, Ultimate Gosei Great and Wonder Gosei Great take it as far as originality and visual impact is concerned, with Mystic Gosei Great and Exotic Gosei Great and Datas Hyper coming in somewhere after! The most lack luster combinations had the better attacks!
I think Ultimate should get a little more consideration because Gosei Great could also stand on it and ride it (like a Cyberslider from Megaranger)! Incidentally, there is a missing combination! The combination of various Land, Sea, and Sky Brothers to Gosei Great seen in the final episode! Not a great combination, but still absent. Would've been nice if the Exotic Brothers appeared for more than one episode! Also would've been nice if the team changed into different GoseiReds based on the Exotic Brothers color pattern! Also, they could've done an episode where the Exotic Brothers take the chest of Hyper Gosei Great, letting Alata (GoseiRed) pilot the combination alone while the others use their Headers elsewhere! The designs of Exotic and Hyper allow for such a variant combination! Missed opportunity! |
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