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05-06-2016, 02:25 AM | #21 |
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05-06-2016, 06:36 AM | #22 |
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I thought it was a cute episode. But i'm agree, the whole "Who cares about the Birdman, i want to learn more about this world" was meh. It fit Tusk's personality and it make sense after episode 11 But it was weird considering he was the one who wanted to found the birdman.
As for Tusk... I can't say people who found him boring are wrong because opinion and blablabla, but i wouldn't say he is boring. He is just the only serious and shy character in this show and the actor is meh (He improved since episode 1, though). If everyone was all dokidoki, it would be boring. You need all types of personalities in a show. Personally, i think they did a good job with him so far. All of his scenes/episodes fits his personality, he got some good focus episodes/Development and unlike Nagi/Hikari/Souji, i remember he is in the show each week, not just when he have a focus episode XD That's one of the thing i love with Zyuohger. The characters are differents so we all have our favorites, but so far, none of the characters are in the background IMO. I'm agree that we didn't learn anything about him and that he didn't get any development in this episode, but it's not like he didn't get any development since the start of the show so a simple cute story isn't a bad thing... Except if all his future focus episodes are like that since it's only the 12th episode. I still think it was nice to see a Ranger defeating a monster alone and the flashback was cute. I'm pretty sure he'll get more backstory later. It's only the 12th episode, after all. And sincerly, i thought Leo second episode was just as "pointless" as this one. Last edited by YellowAccel; 05-06-2016 at 10:06 AM.. |
05-06-2016, 12:50 PM | #23 |
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I think people find Tusk boring because he doesn't seem to have a personality or any particular traits. He's serious and straight laced, and a little shy, but what do we know about him?
Every comedy needs a straight man, I agree, but Tusk's reactions (Which, keep in mind, for a straight man, are supposed to still be comedic) are just dry looks or stating matter of fact replies. Sela is a much better straight man. As a foil to Amu and Leo, Yamato and Sela are much better because they have the appropriate reactions to keep comedic flow. His genius is so rarely brought up that the only reason I remember he's the smart one is because he has nothing else to do (Which isn't helped by them showing off that Sela is constantly just as smart as he is). His purpose in the series, as of yet, is kind of overshadowed by Sela. So far, he's only been notable in episode 1 (When he refused to take Yamato's help), and the Ghost crossover against Meboid Amu. Otherwise, he's just kind of been a tagalong to the rest of the gang, unfortunately. [Not to say I don't like Tusk. I really enjoy him. But it's easy to make sense why people find him so boring]
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05-06-2016, 01:31 PM | #24 |
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I think people find Tusk boring because he doesn't seem to have a personality or any particular traits. He's serious and straight laced, and a little shy, but what do we know about him?
And let's be fair. So far, i can't say i know a lot of things about Leo or Amu. Leo is fun, have a loud voice and can be lazy. Amu is... cute ? And she... likes to go shopping. Quote:
Every comedy needs a straight man, I agree, but Tusk's reactions (Which, keep in mind, for a straight man, are supposed to still be comedic) are just dry looks or stating matter of fact replies. Sela is a much better straight man.
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His genius is so rarely brought up that the only reason I remember he's the smart one is because he has nothing else to do (Which isn't helped by them showing off that Sela is constantly just as smart as he is). His purpose in the series, as of yet, is kind of overshadowed by Sela.
- In episode 1, he was the one who explained how the Link Cubes works and was the one who wanted to know how Yamato got his Symbol. He was also the only one who wasn't surprised when they realized they coudn't go back to Zyuland - In episode 2, he wondered if he could trust Yamato and why he could use a Zyuman power even if he is a human. - In episode 3, Leo found him annoying because he feel the need to remind him again why he must be serious while searching for the cube. - In episode 6, he noticed that Larry was lying and knew why he became old so quickly. He also said that, even if he a Zyuman, he could understand why the humans were scared. - In episode 7, he was angry because Amu didn't do her chores and she mentionned that each time he does something, it's perfect. - In episode 8, he was the one who explained the plan to block the monster sound attack and told to Leo that he should be more serious. - His love of books were mentionned in episode 11 and 12. (I think it was mentionned before, but i'm not 100% sure) It's just a list of the moments that show he is wise/smart, of course. (And i'm pretty sure i forgot some things because... Well, i forgot everything XD) It look like small details details, but that's what make the show so great IMO. Just like i love that, even if they are in the background, Sela cover her ears each time Leo speak. I wouldn't say he have nothing to do in this show. It's just that people usually notice more a fun character than a shy and serious character... Except if the character is the Red or is a girl XD. For Sela, do you have any examples ? The only one that comes to my mind is in episode 9 when she noticed that they were in a dream but they explained why Tusk was more affected than the others and that scene didn't really make Sela look smart IMO. Last edited by YellowAccel; 05-06-2016 at 02:49 PM.. |
05-06-2016, 05:48 PM | #25 |
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So you didn't pick up on Amu breaking down their plans on finding the cube, noticing how handing out flyers won't actually help, and choosing to shop because she would prefer to get accustomed to her new home rather than desperately cling to their old one?
Because the episode where she did it (I don't recall the number) made it pretty damn clear. I'm not going to break down each and every episode to find traits, I'm looking at the characters as a whole. Amu is extremely observant and clever, and can be down right manipulating, but if you only see "Vapid shopper" in her, then I'm surprised you caught anything in Tusk. We know Tusk's personality traits, but we don't know Tusk at all. He stands around quietly, acting stoic. Shame Sela did it better and with better reasoning (Her family that she can no longer see). He's observant. Great quality. So are Yamato, Amu, and Sela. He rarely comes up with plans to attack or counter enemies (He only really follows the others' lead), and he's clever, which doesn't serve his character since he's never been in a situation where it would pay off (He didn't figure out a way to save Amu as she already had a plan, and he didn't figure out to attack the hat until spelled out for him). I'm sorry, but Tusk just doesn't add anything to the team in my eyes. In terms of wit and intelligence, he's probably the smartest, but he's never been in a scenario where he needs to use his wits to defeat a foe or solve a problem. In terms of humor, Sela plays a better straight man to Leo, while Yamato plays it to Amu. He just stands in a corner shaking his head. In terms of ability and battle, Leo is shown to be nearly as strong, but twice as mobile, while he has no particular abilities to help beyond his earthquake stomps, and he just so rarely comes up with battle strategies. I like Tusk, I really do, but in the big picture, he's easily outdone by his whole team since he rarely gets the chance to shine and his days in the limelight don't play to his favor.
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05-07-2016, 12:13 AM | #26 |
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So you didn't pick up on Amu breaking down their plans on finding the cube, noticing how handing out flyers won't actually help, and choosing to shop because she would prefer to get accustomed to her new home rather than desperately cling to their old one?
Because the episode where she did it (I don't recall the number) made it pretty damn clear. I'm not going to break down each and every episode to find traits, I'm looking at the characters as a whole. Amu is extremely observant and clever, and can be down right manipulating, but if you only see "Vapid shopper" in her, then I'm surprised you caught anything in Tusk. Quote:
We know Tusk's personality traits, but we don't know Tusk at all. He stands around quietly, acting stoic. Shame Sela did it better and with better reasoning (Her family that she can no longer see).
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he's clever, which doesn't serve his character since he's never been in a situation where it would pay off
I guess it's a matter of opinion but i respectfully disagree. Last edited by YellowAccel; 05-07-2016 at 12:19 AM.. |
05-09-2016, 01:48 PM | #27 |
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Dragged my feet on watching this one because I've been busy and the previews looked less than stellar (the characters wearing animal costumes and obvious Tusk focus both being big red flags). I actually liked it a lot more than I expected to. It was a comedic episode, but far less goofy than I'd feared it would be. I actually found the charades scene to be pretty funny. This kind of reminds me of the giant baby episode of Dekaranger, which is another case where something that looked cringe-inducing ended up being pretty decent.
Also, Haruka Tateishi looked distractingly cute in that tiger onesie. Just sayin'. |
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