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06-24-2018, 01:05 PM | #11 |
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That's the only thing I dislike about the remakes of the originals across all lines, even Legacy. They never seem to line the legs up the to heels of the Dragon like the original did where it felt more seamless.
Either those heel spurs gotta go, or they gotta start measuring it right so they do line up to fit into that better. It's the only thing wrong with how gorgeous those colors are combined. . For the toy the leg zords were much wider and bigger. Flash forward, everything is slipped down because it looks much better and saves on costs. Problem is that those proportions don't line up with a zord the size of the Dragonzord. The only real solution is to take Dragonzord a smaller figure that approaches the Trex is size. But then the dragonzord in the show could stand side to side with the megazord. We have this paradox. To look correct the dragonzord needs to be smaller and bigger at the same time. I can surmise this is one reason the mecha today look so damn bulky so it's toy accurate. |
06-24-2018, 01:53 PM | #12 |
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The toys can do it if they measure it right. It's about that heel placement in relation to the combining joint. Modern toys trying to add articulation to the foot causes it to stick out farther away from the combining joint on the back of the calf, since that has to be flush to the leg thigh. Since it's not one piece anymore for the ankle joint, it causes mild structural integrity issues. But if they can work around that to get the foot in more from the lift panel, even if they have to angle it slightly to still get the design effect, they should be able to get the legs more flush. The direct issue on the SOC and Legacy version is the ankle articulation, but that's also what makes those versions so tempting too. Haven't looked over the super minipla entirely but I'm willing to bet it suffers from that design flaw too because of the ankle joint if it has one. So to design around that would solve the issue since that's what's causing the extra centimeters of separation. Same as how the issue is also caused by the placement of the receiving end on the legs. The original toy solves this by having the legs combine more towards the rear/bottom of the Sabertooth tiger and Triceratops. Whereas the SOC/MiniPla/Legacy center it more. Which also push the legs too far back for the Dragon Heel but isn't noticeable on the Tyranno combination(tends to look better for the Tyranno combination). Really nothing about making the dragonzord smaller would change that, and if anything would mess up the other proportions for the combination. It's mostly in the engineering of the legs and how they fold in and the foot sticks out that's the issue alongside the placement of the receiving end on the legs to plug in. The minipla in particular could likely solve this easier, but it'd also mean a slight variation on the original design by using the same peg standard as Deka/Geki/Bouken/Gokai. Because of the smaller size and lighter materials though, the structural integrity issues aren't there as much to not at all as opposed to heavier amounts of plastic or metal. The heavier versions if they moved that combining port would need a resting re-enforcement to avoid over stressing it from the weight of the upper robot. So it's entirely possible. Design issue is all. Mostly an oversight one that leaves room for a better version much much later. The Legacy Bandai of America one was also stuck because of the Zord Builder port stuff and needing the extra clearance for that. If you look at a comparison photo of the original toy to the legacy version, you see it really blatantly too. Last edited by Librarian; 06-24-2018 at 01:56 PM.. |
06-24-2018, 02:56 PM | #13 |
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Am I the only one who looks at this and sees Lord Drakkon and his Ranger Sentries piloting this version?
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06-27-2018, 03:34 PM | #14 |
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The putty rangers maybe led by Green. Or something new entirely from the lore as the remnants of the former coins turned completely dark. This feels like a third timeline. One where instead of Dragon going back to evil to become Drakkon, the original 5 somehow became evil with only Green left to stand up to them. They feel like a role reversal megazord color scheme in a lot of ways. Couldn't be the Dark Rangers either as those were created by Zedd, which means the original Dino zords were destroyed by then too. Though that'd be a good one to use instead, since Zedd could use his magic to 'rebuild' the original Megazord for them. And they do share colors to his Serpentera zord. Tommy on the other hand as Drakkon wouldn't have the know-how to have the original one rebuilt nor the experience on how to use the Z-Staff to do it. Because of how much White Ranger is in Drakkon's design, the Dino zords were destroyed by Zedd and the team was on Thunderzords when Tommy turned bad. This is highlighted by how the live action teaser has the Red Sentry holding the Z-Staff too. It's one of the little things I don't like about Drakkon's origin timing. The details don't all line up. The timing and other story elements place his turning into Drakkon at some point between the Dragon to white tiger change where the rangers were using thunderzords and he had a stronger connection to Kimberly, whereas other story bits suggest it wasn't that long after Green with Evil. And then also his knowing of Ninjor, and how easily he passed the trials, also suggests that he had the Falcon powers before he turned evil too, because he's done all that before. All of which makes his transition to Drakkon hard to place. After green with evil, closer to the green to white switch, or after ninjazords. But then how the Grave Zord uses mostly thunderzord parts doesn't help with that question either as well as the lack of the ninja zords or shogun zords. (Though they did manage to fix the Ninjor issue by saying that's how the green and white coins were merged to begin with. But that still places his turning evil to after Lord Zedd arrived and much farther from Green with Evil.) Love the story, don't get me wrong, but the continuity raises a ton of questions on when it takes place in comparison to a normal classic ranger timeline. Last edited by Librarian; 06-27-2018 at 03:54 PM.. |
06-27-2018, 04:26 PM | #15 |
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Color-wise, maybe, Story-wise, no.
The putty rangers maybe led by Green. Or something new entirely from the lore as the remnants of the former coins turned completely dark. This feels like a third timeline. One where instead of Dragon going back to evil to become Drakkon, the original 5 somehow became evil with only Green left to stand up to them. They feel like a role reversal megazord color scheme in a lot of ways. Couldn't be the Dark Rangers either as those were created by Zedd, which means the original Dino zords were destroyed by then too. Though that'd be a good one to use instead, since Zedd could use his magic to 'rebuild' the original Megazord for them. And they do share colors to his Serpentera zord. Tommy on the other hand as Drakkon wouldn't have the know-how to have the original one rebuilt nor the experience on how to use the Z-Staff to do it. Because of how much White Ranger is in Drakkon's design, the Dino zords were destroyed by Zedd and the team was on Thunderzords when Tommy turned bad. This is highlighted by how the live action teaser has the Red Sentry holding the Z-Staff too. It's one of the little things I don't like about Drakkon's origin timing. The details don't all line up. The timing and other story elements place his turning into Drakkon at some point between the Dragon to white tiger change where the rangers were using thunderzords and he had a stronger connection to Kimberly, whereas other story bits suggest it wasn't that long after Green with Evil. And then also his knowing of Ninjor, and how easily he passed the trials, also suggests that he had the Falcon powers before he turned evil too, because he's done all that before. All of which makes his transition to Drakkon hard to place. After green with evil, closer to the green to white switch, or after ninjazords. But then how the Grave Zord uses mostly thunderzord parts doesn't help with that question either as well as the lack of the ninja zords or shogun zords. (Though they did manage to fix the Ninjor issue by saying that's how the green and white coins were merged to begin with. But that still places his turning evil to after Lord Zedd arrived and much farther from Green with Evil.) Love the story, don't get me wrong, but the continuity raises a ton of questions on when it takes place in comparison to a normal classic ranger timeline.
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