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12-18-2018, 03:34 AM | #21 |
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Fair enough for a personal point of view, but overall Build was very well received which contradicts your claim that it's bad for the franchise or even the genre as a whole.
Zi-O isn’t as good as Build or Ex-Aid so far, I give you that, but the merch sells like hotcakes 'cause past Rider gimmick and that's ultimately all they care about when they make these shows. It might've been just a throwaway-line but man would that make for an excellent subplot. But they already changed Zamigo from a cold-blooded murderer to an ice cube kidnapper so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
12-18-2018, 11:43 AM | #22 |
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By the way they still didn't explain why Noel has to stay in France. Kogure scolded Noel when his Lupin Collection was stolen by Destra telling him to stay in France but didn't mention why
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12-18-2018, 12:50 PM | #23 |
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Overall a good episode, but my issues with the show still remain and I doubt that will change this late.
Can we just note how badly the Pats especially Pat 2 take it that Noel is possibly lying to them ? See that despair ? Considering Noel is directly lying to their faces on a daily bases and does not see them as allies at all compared to the Lupins judging by the end scene in my opinion. Will Pat 2 react witch such passion when he finds out that, yes, Noel is in fact lying to them constantly..... ? Or will the show just keep this status forever and ever into the future and every time the teams show up in other content.... Probably a case of plot rework at this point, so hard to say, it was probably rushed. |
12-18-2018, 04:10 PM | #24 |
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You know, this is a piece of wisdom I hear a lot, and I think we all take it for granted sometimes, but exactly what basis does this really have in fact? Can it really be that simple when Bandai is still pumping out Genm merchandise well after Kamen Rider Ex-Aid ended? Or when Ultraman's monsters are almost as iconic as he is?
I don't doubt there's some truth to this, but even with this very show, the cool guy anti-hero Lupinrangers are apparently infinitely more popular with kids than the straight-laced Patrangers. in sentai, which does consistently have better villains than rider imo, we only get any merchandise for villains over here, even the villains that are actually popular don't tend to get anything (dark buster, lio, wolzard for example). i think if they gave villains a bit more of a push marketing wise, they could probably get some new sales your point about ultraman monsters makes this even more obvious, ultramonsters are both villainous and so iconic that there are multiple series based around them. toei should take a note from ultraman and try to at least give us some toys for the major villains. |
12-18-2018, 10:53 PM | #25 |
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Or give us villains for sentai that actually get to be villains, and not set dressing for an entire year....Again...... "facedesk"
What on earth happened internally when it comes to villain plots ? We have not had active villains since ToQger at this point, instead it feels like they do less and less each year, okay let me be fair here they did not get to do as much as Kyoryuger though the main villains where vital for the monster of the week actually being a thing and often showed up aiding their creation, but I still like the ToQger villains god damn it ! The start of this Lupat Vs Patr was promising, the villains actually showed up in the episodes as part of the plot, actually doing things etc. Aaaaaaand then the rest of the series had.....Nothing...... T_T.. |
12-19-2018, 08:44 AM | #26 |
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Or give us villains for sentai that actually get to be villains, and not set dressing for an entire year....Again...... "facedesk"
What on earth happened internally when it comes to villain plots ? We have not had active villains since ToQger at this point, instead it feels like they do less and less each year, okay let me be fair here they did not get to do as much as Kyoryuger though the main villains where vital for the monster of the week actually being a thing and often showed up aiding their creation, but I still like the ToQger villains god damn it ! The start of this Lupat Vs Patr was promising, the villains actually showed up in the episodes as part of the plot, actually doing things etc. Aaaaaaand then the rest of the series had.....Nothing...... T_T.. and being honest i haven't been disappointed in a main sentai villain since deboss. genis and don armage may have done very little over the course of their series, but their final fights (ESPECIALLY genis') are some of the best in the series' history and if you're like me and try to look into the themeing of each show, genis works perfectly as a villain for zyuohger, he's an antithesis of the team's main ideals. armage is too but its less clever than it was with genis, mostly because kyuranger's theme is very shallow Last edited by Bionichute; 12-19-2018 at 08:47 AM.. |
12-19-2018, 11:28 AM | #27 |
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Mecha design comparison:
- Victory LupinKaiser looks similar to GokaiOh (Gokaiger) - Siren PatKaiser looks similar to Travelion (Magiranger) |
12-19-2018, 11:41 AM | #28 |
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After Reveal Gochu target Noel Now. |
12-19-2018, 07:11 PM | #29 |
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giving the villains plots means planning things out AND cutting out valuable "buy our toys" time in the show
and being honest i haven't been disappointed in a main sentai villain since deboss. genis and don armage may have done very little over the course of their series, but their final fights (ESPECIALLY genis') are some of the best in the series' history and if you're like me and try to look into the themeing of each show, genis works perfectly as a villain for zyuohger, he's an antithesis of the team's main ideals. armage is too but its less clever than it was with genis, mostly because kyuranger's theme is very shallow Loved Genis design, disliked how static he ended up being even if the final fight was good I do not feel Genis earned the quality of the fight, part of my issue with the villains was how Nalia ended up being treated at the end, they could have done a lot better with it but ended up not bothering. Overall I like the season and honestly have it as a favorite from the last seasons, the characters really helped. Armage had a good fight as well, but dear lord did the season have some issues not aided by Lucky. But I could actually see myself watching it again in a few years. I am not sure this season has earned that overall, it has been a bit to wonky, but I will not judge my overall view on it before it finishes, I still feel issues with how the series went and I still feel they rained the majority of abilities on the Lupins like candy which was clearly not intended considering the designs and sound effects on the toys already out, and it did hurt the show overall. |
12-19-2018, 09:12 PM | #30 |
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No I do agree with you in regards to Deboss, its henchmen where my main love for the show overall in regards to the villains, the main villain leader not so much, but I still prefer ToQger there.
Loved Genis design, disliked how static he ended up being even if the final fight was good I do not feel Genis earned the quality of the fight, part of my issue with the villains was how Nalia ended up being treated at the end, they could have done a lot better with it but ended up not bothering. Overall I like the season and honestly have it as a favorite from the last seasons, the characters really helped. Armage had a good fight as well, but dear lord did the season have some issues not aided by Lucky. But I could actually see myself watching it again in a few years. I am not sure this season has earned that overall, it has been a bit to wonky, but I will not judge my overall view on it before it finishes, I still feel issues with how the series went and I still feel they rained the majority of abilities on the Lupins like candy which was clearly not intended considering the designs and sound effects on the toys already out, and it did hurt the show overall. Armage is a lot flatter of a character, but you can't say he didn't do anything, even if it was entirely in the last few episodes. I have to catch up with LuPat in order to gauge what's going on with the villains there, but i don't doubt that the final battle will be spectacular visually, even if the villains didn't do much. |
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