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11-26-2016, 06:16 PM | #1 |
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Okay. So let's look at the history of what happened.
The Chaos Energem is stolen by Lord Arcanon and one of the results is the destruction of Sentai 6, leaving Heckyl as the sole survivor. He is then fused in to one being with Snide, and is imprisoned by Sledge who is in the service of Lord Arcanon. The disturbance of the Chaos Energem being stolen and the destruction of Sentai 6, Keeper takes the remaining Energems and flees. Sledge, with the assistance of Lord Arcanon, is able to track him and, for whatever reason, captures the asteroid meant to wipe out the dinosaurs on Earth. Once Keeper is found, Sledge blasts him and the events in the show happen. So how do you explain this separate Universe that stems not just a random place in time (like the future) but one that changes the very fundamentals of the entire history of the planet Earth (thus making it NOT work with any previous series)? The Energems have the ability to open up space and time. We saw that it sent people in to the past (Dino Supercharge finale) and sent them back to the future (Ivan, Koda). So here's a thought on how to explain Dino Charge/Dino Supercharge and keep it in continuity somehow. Dino Charge and Dino Supercharge, itself, are its own separate Universe, created when events changed due to time travel from a present Universe villain who sought to seek out the Energems/Chaos Energem for themself/ves. Maybe it's Arcanon - who goes in to the past to retrieve the Chaos Energem and other Energems but is thwarted by Keeper, who flees with the Energems after the Chaos Energem has been compromised. Sledge is sent by Arcanon to retrieve them, grabs some asteroids on the way (that were supposed to hit the Earth), the events of the show happen. Maybe if Arcanon doesn't come to the past, grab the Chaos Energem, and employs Sledge ... maybe Sledge doesn't come to Earth, and the asteroid hits like it's supposed to, and history happens as normal in the normal Universe. So what are the Energems then, and where are they in the main Universe? Well, there's only one other crystal-like object that I'm aware of that can manipulate space and time - the Zeo Crystal. Maybe without interference from a future time traveler, the Energems become the Zeo Crystal, and maybe the Chaos Energem being part of that is what ends up scarring Lord Zedd and disfiguring him. I know that it's stated that Zordon opened up holes in time and space, but maybe it was the Zeo Crystal allowing that to happen - otherwise why the heck didn't Zordon use that ability at any other point in the history of his existence? So in short: Main timeline: Asteroid hits Earth killing dinosaurs. From the M51 Galaxy, beings deliver the Energems to Earth for safe-keeping, hiding them from the forces of Lord Zedd. Over time, the crystals fuse together to form what becomes known as the Zeo Crystal. Zordon arrives from Eltar after fleeing Lord Zedd and is pursued by Rita Repulsa. MMPR happens. Rangers discover the Zeo Crystal. Blah blah blah up through Jungle Fury, then Samurai through Super Megaforce. Alternate timeline: RPM Alternate timeline #2: Time traveler arrives at Sentai 6 and to take Chaos Energem, destroying the planet. Keeper flees with Energems and is pursued by a hired goon named Sledge. He captures the asteroid meant for Earth, travels to Earth to find Keeper, and the events of the first episode happen. Zordon never flees Eltar because the forces of Lord Zedd never attack because they've been conquered by Lord Arcanon and the Chaos Energem. So in my theory - the Energems are actually the Zeo Crystal before being fused together. The difference comes from whether or not the Chaos Energem is stolen. If it isn't, Dino Charge never happens. If it is, Dino Charge happens and none of the other Power Rangers ever exist.
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11-26-2016, 07:07 PM | #2 |
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...Or you could just accept that aside from the yearly crossovers*which has always been hotly disputed as being canon* most PR seasons take place in their own universe.
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11-27-2016, 12:11 AM | #3 |
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Truth be told, I wrote out the topic in response to Jason Bischoff from Saban asking if we, as fans, would accept Dino Charge taking place before MMPR as a way to preserve the continuity. That would be nearly impossible to pull off, so this was my "how to keep Dino Charge connected to the main continuity" without telling a contingent of older fans to F off because Power Rangers kids blah blah blah. Is that something you could accept?
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11-27-2016, 12:35 AM | #4 |
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Was it Ninja Storm that had the "I knew Power Rangers were real!" line? Because that's a perfect example of what I mean. Or that lady in Lightspeed Rescue who Linkara dubbed the "dumbest person in Power Rangers". In a vague sense they're in continuity with each other, but they always treat it like the events of each series are shrouded in mystery even when you'd think there'd be easily accessible news footage of giant monsters/robots and the like. Just look at Megaforce. That was a show that explicitly WAS operating in a universe where all the other shows were canon, and it still acts like this is the first time aliens have invaded Earth. You want to fit Dino Charge in the main universe? Just pretend it does. What's one more plot hole when your canon is already held together by scotch tape and a prayer? They could have the Dino Charge crew team up with Ninja Steel, never once mentioning that zoo, and it'd be business as usual. Let's just say the other time travel antics in PR cancelled the Supercharge finale out offscreen or something.
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11-27-2016, 01:06 AM | #5 |
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I dispute it! This is largely a result of getting into the franchise with Lost Galaxy onwards. I honestly don't see how dinosaurs are that much more contradictory than anything else between seasons. I mean, the idea that these shows all fit together falls apart really fast.
Was it Ninja Storm that had the "I knew Power Rangers were real!" line? Because that's a perfect example of what I mean. Or that lady in Lightspeed Rescue who Linkara dubbed the "dumbest person in Power Rangers". In a vague sense they're in continuity with each other, but they always treat it like the events of each series are shrouded in mystery even when you'd think there'd be easily accessible news footage of giant monsters/robots and the like. Just look at Megaforce. That was a show that explicitly WAS operating in a universe where all the other shows were canon, and it still acts like this is the first time aliens have invaded Earth. You want to fit Dino Charge in the main universe? Just pretend it does. What's one more plot hole when your canon is already held together by scotch tape and a prayer? They could have the Dino Charge crew team up with Ninja Steel, never once mentioning that zoo, and it'd be business as usual. Let's just say the other time travel antics in PR cancelled the Supercharge finale out offscreen or something. And I distinctly remember way back in the day that the crossovers were debated as canon or not with the most popular argument against being the fact that the crossover never has any impact on the show the plot acts like it never happened. That's why the "Dino Charge destroys the canon!" complaint confuses me because outside of the Zordon era PR's attitude towards an overreaching canon is if I'm remembering right: "If we can squint and see it kinda fit together we're good" Last edited by Yellow Ranger; 11-27-2016 at 06:13 PM.. |
11-27-2016, 01:15 AM | #6 |
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Let's not forget that Lost Galaxy and Lightspeed had a crossover. And they knew who the Lost Galaxy rangers were. So it was pretty much after LSR that everything changed.
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11-27-2016, 01:18 AM | #7 |
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...You mean the crossover that was out of place and the series acts like never happened afterwards?
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11-27-2016, 01:20 AM | #8 |
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I don't remember exactly what happened afterwards. I just remember it happened and that the LSR zords got the upgrade from the Lights of Orion. *shrugs* I dun care really.
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11-27-2016, 04:58 PM | #9 |
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Prior to the finale, I was thinking they could use Creator Devius from ToQger vs. Kyoryuger as the one who made the monster outlaws via time travel. Now, I'm thinking about using the established time travel ability of Remorseful Knight Arslevan from 100 Yrs. After to correct this. Dinosaurs surviving fails on so many scientific levels! Too many dinosaurs, too few birds! Plus, Original Timeline Sledge was lost in the black hole resulting from the Dark Energem's destruction, which means he could be stuck in a loop and not really dead! Also, if dinosaurs co-exist, then Mesogog either wouldn't exist or be very happy! You would also think that Time Force would get a little pissed at "time altering"! Saban can fix this, it's just a matter of when or if!
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11-27-2016, 05:40 PM | #10 |
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I haven't watched Dino supercharged yet so now I'm just very confused.
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