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01-15-2020, 09:41 PM | #15711 |
The Immortal King Tasty
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Decade is a definitely a show you have to accept for what it is if you want to enjoy it. It's a roller coaster ride that I think genuinely nailed the "event" feel it was going for in a lot of ways (even bringing to life fandom wish-list type stuff like a Black/Black RX teamup and Rising Ultimate Kuuga), but if you watch it expecting some kind of cohesive story, you're going to be disappointed. It's a show with a very particular flavor that just won't click with everyone.
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01-15-2020, 09:56 PM | #15712 |
Showa Girl
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I personally love Decade, but in the way that I accept that from every objective standpoint it's a completely irredeemable mess. But goddamn, it's a fun mess!
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01-16-2020, 12:08 AM | #15713 |
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Personally, I feel like they could've done the AR stuff while still honoring what made the various characters great in the first place. Onodera being literally nothing like Godai is of course the obvious example; I wouldn't have minded so much had Onodera had atleast a couple more of Godai's' redeeming qualities, but no.
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01-16-2020, 04:12 AM | #15714 |
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There are shows I dislike more than Decade, but I'm not a fan. One of the only alternate riders I thought was OK was Blade, but other than that I don't know why they thought we wanted to see their fan fiction! The version of Kiva was particularly bad, I was disappointed Zi-O still didn't really do it properly but at least they did better than that! I find both Den-O and Decade overrated and I preferred Kiva to both unfortunately, which most people disagree!
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01-17-2020, 04:17 AM | #15715 |
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Finished Kamen Rider Ghost, movies and all. And it was... fine? It lagged a bit in the second half but overall I really liked it. I wish they played around more with the ghost concept and some of the character resolutions was a bit... underwhelming. But overall it was good.
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01-18-2020, 04:53 PM | #15716 |
Showa Girl
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I got a little derailed the past month or two between Christmas, and birthdays, and politics, and... alright, it was mostly Pokémon and Fire Emblem. But either way it's been a while since I really continued Blade, and so yesterday and today I ended up binging through almost the entire back half. I'm finally finished Blade.
... It was pretty good! From what I've heard, I imagine my criticisms aren't too contrarian; the show around the middle was a little... uh, middling; and the Mutsuki stuff went on WAY too long. I loved when Tachibana took him under his wing because it was a great dynamic that showed development and the dude's a surprisingly good teacher; and then you mix in Shima who surprised me in how much I liked him and there was promising stuff but then for some reason they decided to just repeat the first part of his development until the last minute and... uh, right, I started this off saying Blade was really good. And that's because it was! Those two things aside, it's not top 5 or anything for me but it's certainly a wonderful series to go out on. Despite the direction change about halfway through, the series still felt very consistent and organic in how it handled all its concepts and like Drive I felt it had a great mix between serialised and motw storytelling; there's always something progressing even in the slower episodes and you've got a cast that is so easy to fall in love with. Even when I felt the series was meandering a little with, say, Kenzaki and Hajime; it comes swinging out of left field with huge development for the both of them before centering the entire series around them! It's awesome just how much I came to love the two and how much I came to cheer for them. I'm very much a rambler so I apologise for this not being laid out very well, but overall I hope this conveys the sense that I really, really liked Blade! But it's not just Blade alone I finished tonight. There's a couple miscellaneous things left; in particular Hidden Ace and the recently-subbed Grease movie, but in terms of the series themselves? It's been a wild ride these past 2 years, but I've finally finished all 20 Heisei Riders. And that was great. There's been some lows, absolutely. I can't quite get into Ghost overall, for instance, and Ryuki unfortunately wasn't my thing either. But even for those series that I disliked, there was generally always something there -- something about Heisei Rider that just really struck a chord with me. That relentless heroism; the faith in humanity; that overwhelming good will topped off by monsters getting beaten up by dudes in bug suits. This was just something I absolutely needed. In a lot of media I've seen and read and etc for the past decade or so, a lot of it has just been dredged in pessimism or irony poisoning or being self-referential to such a ridiculous degree that it's difficult to get anything genuine or optimistic out of it. I'm not saying this to drag any one particular piece of fiction (we NEED media that's very pessimistic, for instance; it is important to have shows and books and games that explore the darkest parts of our reality), but just that as a general trend it's been hard to find anything that's both unapologetically fun and which I can connect with. And then I watched Fourze. And as you might guess for watching the other 19 series surrounding it for 2 years, I kinda jibed with it. Here was a show that was just so extremely silly at all times and yet was absolutely high on emotion. Here was a show where the main hero is a punk wearing a rocket-shaped helmet that still extolled the virtues of love and compassion over all else. Here was a show with a main character premise so dumb as someone who wants to be friends with literally every single person in school, and yet still managed to slip in questions about the extents of altruism and how far you can go for your friends. Now not every Heisei Rider has been capable of this for me. There is one in particular that I have just come to hate in its entirety, and I'm sure if you search through my posts long enough you'll find which one that is. But I'm not here to tear that one down. I'm not here to trash a show people might love for no reason when no-one asked; I don't need to when there's so much else to love -- but my point is that even when Kamen Rider has such a huge low for me, just about everything else has been just what I wanted. Maybe I'm reading too much into a show for kids made to sell toy belts that scream if you so much as look at them funny, but I can't ignore what shows like OOO and Kuuga have done for me in making me feel like my faith in humanity in love isn't misplaced even when there's things out there that can utterly destroy you; or how much Den-O and Fourze made me laugh and cry in equal measures; or how Build and Blade made me question things. And I certainly can't end off such a marathon without writing something to say how much I've loved it all. I just fucking love Kamen Rider.
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01-18-2020, 09:57 PM | #15717 |
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Now not every Heisei Rider has been capable of this for me. There is one in particular that I have just come to hate in its entirety, and I'm sure if you search through my posts long enough you'll find which one that is. But I'm not here to tear that one down. I'm not here to trash a show people might love for no reason when no-one asked;
Either I missed you taking potshots at Kabuto or something, or you're trying to spare my feelings. I really empathize with you on the rest of that post though. Especially the bit about Fourze. Since I got into Rider during OOO, Fourze was my first "new" show, that I was around from the announcements and the rumors and everything leading up to the start, and the whole time, I was madly in love with it. It was the kind of ray of sunshine that you could only get out of a hero specifically and directly created with the intent of making people smile (in response to the 2011 Tohoku earthquake), and while there ended up being a lot of Rider series that are more consistently on my mind than it, I honestly believe Fourze had an immeasurable impact on making me the optimistic person I generally try to be. There's something so sincere about that show that makes it hard not to want to, I guess live up to the standard of a guy like Gentarou.
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01-18-2020, 11:02 PM | #15718 |
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Of the Rider shows I've seen so far(All of Phase 1 Heisei, half of Showa, W and OOO), the only one I've actually disliked so far is Decade. Certain seasons have definitely been weaker than others, yeah, but I atleast found enough stuff to like about most of them to keep me going.
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01-19-2020, 07:04 AM | #15719 |
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I really empathize with you on the rest of that post though. Especially the bit about Fourze. Since I got into Rider during OOO, Fourze was my first "new" show, that I was around from the announcements and the rumors and everything leading up to the start, and the whole time, I was madly in love with it. It was the kind of ray of sunshine that you could only get out of a hero specifically and directly created with the intent of making people smile (in response to the 2011 Tohoku earthquake), and while there ended up being a lot of Rider series that are more consistently on my mind than it, I honestly believe Fourze had an immeasurable impact on making me the optimistic person I generally try to be. There's something so sincere about that show that makes it hard not to want to, I guess live up to the standard of a guy like Gentarou. And likewise, Fourze kind of set the stage for me as well. I'd marathoned a lot of Sentai seasons beforehand (Gokaiger through Kyuranger) but I really found that Rider's way of doing things just absolutely got me.
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01-19-2020, 10:10 AM | #15720 |
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All this talk about the bright ray of sunshine and beacon of friendship that Gentaro is makes me suddenly a lot more nostalgic for Fourze than I usually am.
Also Kurona, congrats on finishing all twenty (time break!) heisei shows. Maybe one day the franchise will tackle vampires and monsters again but with a different, better direction... |
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