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04-05-2019, 07:53 PM | #15341 |
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I was nervous about Wizard, because over the years I’ve become well aware of its overall negative reputation. Until Ghost, it was probably the season I always heard the most bad things about. So I was prepared for something bad when I went in, but…I actually kind of liked it? It’s certainly not perfect, and I think there are a lot of valid criticisms one can say about it, but I felt that the positives outweighed the negatives, at least for me.
I understand why it's a sticking point for a lot of people, especially when the show is dangling overarching plot threads in your face for so long, but as someone who enjoys a good episodic series, Wizard's pacing has just never bothered me.
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04-05-2019, 09:30 PM | #15342 |
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In a way I almost wish I had watched Wizard before I watched the first three Neo Heisei shows preceding it, because I think then I wouldn't have been quite as exhausted with that format in general as I was by the time I got to Wizard. Since I've been running through seasons one right after another, four seasons in a row of that format in a relatively short time just got tiresome by this point. So I think my issues with Wizard's pacing aren't so much an actual problem with the show as they are just a symptom of the way I've been watching the seasons all in a row.
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04-05-2019, 10:53 PM | #15343 |
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I have to imagine the big reason why someone might dislike a more formulaic show is when the show itself promises or dangles some kind of intrigue but then either never follows up on it or waits until the literal end. Wizard, and Lupin VS Pat are both shows that seem to set up a lot of cool threads but then either wait too long or literally never picks them back up, and those stuck out to me as reasons to criticize them.
Compare something like Dekaranger or a lot of older Ultraman shows. Those are entirely episodic, but I never minded that at all because they never tried to make me think they had something up their sleeves and made me wait for it. Also Shyguy, if you think you were tired of the two-part format, imagine watching it every week for seven years! |
04-06-2019, 03:15 AM | #15344 |
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In a way I almost wish I had watched Wizard before I watched the first three Neo Heisei shows preceding it, because I think then I wouldn't have been quite as exhausted with that format in general as I was by the time I got to Wizard. Since I've been running through seasons one right after another, four seasons in a row of that format in a relatively short time just got tiresome by this point. So I think my issues with Wizard's pacing aren't so much an actual problem with the show as they are just a symptom of the way I've been watching the seasons all in a row.
Anyway, agree with Fish Sandwich and AkibaSilver that it's nice seeing someone appreciate Wizard. In particular glad to see someone who liked Haruto, I've always felt he was a good and absurdly underappreciated lead. |
04-06-2019, 04:40 AM | #15345 |
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All that love for Wizard here is just great and warms my heart. Glad people like my fifth favorite Rider series and my favorite main Rider.
Wizard was a series that knew exactly what it wanted to be and executed that wonderfully. Bonus points for the fact that I find the two-parters the most interesting parts of these shows primarally because you get good stories in a short amount of time and whenever a series doesn't do them justice it always hurts the series in question. |
04-06-2019, 09:44 AM | #15346 |
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Wizard is a show that I wanted to like more than I ultimately did. Haruto, however, is one of my favorite Riders of the last decade.
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04-06-2019, 02:21 PM | #15347 |
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I have to imagine the big reason why someone might dislike a more formulaic show is when the show itself promises or dangles some kind of intrigue but then either never follows up on it or waits until the literal end. Wizard, and Lupin VS Pat are both shows that seem to set up a lot of cool threads but then either wait too long or literally never picks them back up, and those stuck out to me as reasons to criticize them.
Compare something like Dekaranger or a lot of older Ultraman shows. Those are entirely episodic, but I never minded that at all because they never tried to make me think they had something up their sleeves and made me wait for it. Also Shyguy, if you think you were tired of the two-part format, imagine watching it every week for seven years! Both Wizard and Lup vs Pat set up a very specific story premise that limits what the episodic stories can do (up to Wizard never being allowed to fail to save a person because then Haruto himself would fall into despair, or the Lupinranger being unable to lose any collection pieces because their goal was to get every single one) but then they are episodic most of the way through, which is completely counter-intuitive. Last edited by NeonZ; 04-06-2019 at 02:36 PM.. |
04-06-2019, 09:00 PM | #15348 |
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I really like Wizard, but at the same time I can’t really bring myself to call it good. Great fun if you can deal with its flaws though!
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04-07-2019, 09:21 PM | #15349 |
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So between showing up in Zi-O, Excite! Subs doing their shiny new translation of it recently, and also how it's hard to watch Ryukendo without being reminded of it, I've finally been given the push I need to rewatch Blade what I'm pretty sure is going to be all the way through at this point. Right now I just got done with episode 16 and I gotta tell ya', this show is the absolute bomb even to this day.
It's been almost 8 years (!) since I've actually seen the whole series, and it's a bit shocking to find out that it's sort of even better than I remember it being. I've had this thought going back and watching early episodes of OOO and Ryuki too, but it's extra surprising how strong I felt the opening stretch is in Blade, because part of me has always kind of bought into the idea it takes a while to get going. Now I feel like it's the exact opposite. It comes out of the gate with so much momentum it probably just blindsides anybody who isn't prepared to keep up with it. It might actually secretly be one of the best and most unique first quarters or so in Rider history, given how many rules it throws out the window. A lesser show would've just been content to have a status quo of Blade and Garren going around fighting monsters for a while, but here their whole operation gets destroyed in the first episode. I've always had a strong affection for the early Heisei soap opera style, and Blade is pretty much the peak of that with the way it goes for MAXIMUM DRAMA at all times. Kenzaki beats his first monster, and instead of being triumphant and cool, he's lying on the ground exhausted contemplating whether or not his partner just betrayed their organization. By half a dozen episodes in, someone is trying to blow Hajime's family up with a time bomb. Half a dozen after that, and Tachibana has developed an addiction to performance enhancing seaweed that alienates him from his friends. What the f***. It's legitimately fascinating to me how much crap they already stuffed into just this relatively small stretch of the show. Every single main character essentially starts the show at some kind of emotional breaking point, and consequently they start getting major development immediately. To this day I still think Kenzaki is the best example of a Rider whose fighting skills gradually improve throughout the show, and that's only one facet of what makes him so awesome. I'm not even sure where to stop here. I'm pretty sure there's literally nothing about Blade I don't like, so just trying to praise it would have me going on for like, I mean... I'd have to make another huge thread like that one about Ghost, but there's no point to that because everybody already knows how awesome Blade is. It's top tier stuff. Cream of the crop. A+ material. You know what my favorite thing about it might be though? The show's commitment to the Rider part of its name. The heroes almost always arrive at and leave from scenes on their bikes. Chalice rides up a stairwell to get to the top of a building at one point. I love it. Just like I love the opening theme. Or the insert theme. Or the bad acting. Or the flawless build up to Leangle's debut. Or... wait, it's happening. I'm going on forever. Okay, I'll stop for now, but I guarantee you by the time I get to King Form's debut I'll be popping back in here to do this all over again.
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04-08-2019, 12:10 AM | #15350 |
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Fish Sandwich, I hope by the end of it, you come back with a better impression of Leangle than I (or most people) do! I don't hate him, but his arc is the one thing in the series I've always felt iffy about.
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