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09-14-2020, 07:01 PM | #1 |
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Hello Tokunation! My name is GrandComplete and I was inspired by both Kamen Rider Die's various Heisei Rider watch throughs and Fish Sandwitches excellent anaysis in his rewatch of Kamen Rider Kuuga. So I decided to take a crack at it. But what to watch? Well truthfully I wanted to get out of my comfort zone and watch some lesser known toku shows outside of the big three. And I decided why not Legend Heroes? It so accessible that you'd have to come up with excuse to not at least try the first episode. It free on Youtube for goodness sake! All 50 episodes subbed in 6 different languages as well as being 1080p HD! That what really sold me to try it.
But first a bit background info Legend Hero is a joint Korean and Chinese Tokusatsu show that aired on March 2, 2016 - August 18, 2016. Produced by MoonWatcher and Synergy Media. Whose only other venture into Tokusatsu is the cancelled SFX Fantasy Rayforce Though I've heard that elements from the canceled show was later put into Legend Hero. Written by Ji Hansol and Kim Hyunhee(No relation to the KPOP star and the North Korean Agent). The show Chinese element is also intreasting as the shows toys were produced by China. And everything else was made in Korea. This brings us to how the show was distrubted in China. China Film Animation dubbed the show in Mandarin and renamed it Dream of Three Kingdoms (梦想三国 Mèng Xiǎng Sān Guó). Once the show finished airing China Film Animation would do an adaptatian called Legend Hero (群英传奇 Qún Yīng Chuán QÃ* ) in the same vein as Power Rangers dubbing over the fights scene with brand new dialouge and new Chinese actors in the non fight scenes. I think I've rambled long enough. And thank you for sticking with me this entire time. If you notice any grammer errors please don't hesitate to point them out. I can't wait for you to experience the show with me!
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09-14-2020, 07:14 PM | #2 |
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Oh, very cool! This sounds like it's going to be fun. Thanks for deciding to share your thoughts on this show, and I hope you have a blast with it!
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09-14-2020, 07:53 PM | #3 |
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Oh man, totally free on YT? Count me in. I'll definitely try to keep up on my days off from work!
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09-14-2020, 07:59 PM | #4 |
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Yaaay more people watching stuff and talking about stuff! "Subbed in a ton of languages officially on YouTube" is definitely a great selling point, too. I can't promise to totally keep up with this thread, but I'll definitely try to give at least the first few episodes a shot. Either way, I'm rooting for you! I'm always happy to see people bringing attention to shows that are obscure even within the already niche tokusatsu fandom.
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09-14-2020, 09:37 PM | #5 |
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Episode 1 "The Birth of Legend Heroes"
And here we go. The 1st episode starts with a bang. With the universes creation and Heroes fighting amongst themselves for dominance. And in scene I swear was lifted straight out of Decade with our main protag dreaming of these Heroes fighting and eventually being destroyed by a lone shadowy figure. After that where introduce to our protag properly he is Liu Bei as he's comedically beaten up by his best friend Gongsun Zang for sleeping in. Cue cleaning montage as we see they run a dojo. Up next we meet a very energetic girl in white who clearly not from around here. After shenanigans ensuing with the girl not knowing about how the human world and thus basically stealing some clothes. Liu steps in to desclate things but turns out despite being the Heir to a Dojo he kind of sucks at fighting. Well in the end things worked out and by revealing his name to the girl that get her to give Liu a Changer and a slot saying that her name is Xu Shu and that she an angel that'll grant wishes. And apparantly despite the show so far revolving around the creation of the universe and martial arts and having an "angel" she's surprisingly techy refering to a "Mother Computer" and well doing this ... Were then introduce to another character He Jin who's bitter at Liu Bei being chosen as the next heir so bullies him into submission. After getting beat up Liu wishes onto the Slot and Changer to be stronger and the slot transforming into this little guy His named Guan Yu and after "granting" his wish he forms a contract with Liu Bei. After trying again to fight back against He Jin and losing again we get a nice parralel to an earlier scene I didn't mention and after being contacted Xu Shu he decides to terminate the contract causing Guan Yu to revert back to being an inanimate object. All the while He Jin watches all of this. The next day Liu is out waiting for Xu Shu to return the Changer when He Jin shows up with his own changer and transforms into a Legend Hero. And after beating up Liu Bei for awhile Guan Yu suddenly returns despite the contract being broken and seeing him take the blow for him the Changer resonates with Liu and he transforms. And gotta say I love how the transformatian in initiated. Doing a Kung Fu bow with the hands that we actually see quite a bit before really blending the kung fu background into it. After a fight scene Liu beats Hei Jin with a sword finisher. Which I'm a little dissapointed by simply being that the show has been mostly about hand to hand fighting for Liu so a sword just feels a little out of place. Anyways having to bring it up the subs are pretty good for the most part but there some grammer mistakes. The biggest one being this Yeah I don't know a lick of Korean so I just hope that just a minor error that fixed later on. And the episode just ends very abruptly Liu beats Hei but he dosen't de-transform neither does Liu once the action ends the episode ends no post transformation reaction, no end credits it just ended. But as overall? It a good first impersion the shows sets up with alot at least 12 Legend Heroes in the flash backs, 5-6 mechs, a rivalry between Hei and Liu and the mystery of the tech angels and that not even counting the fact that there probably going to be monsters introduced later on. But anyways what are your thoughts on the first episode. And about my writing this is my first time so constructive critcism is always appeeciated.
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09-14-2020, 09:48 PM | #6 |
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09-15-2020, 06:14 PM | #7 |
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So, right away, the thing I loved most about that premiere was how unafraid it was to make Liu Bei look utterly pathetic. He gets hit on the head at least what? Half a dozen times? It's a real risk for the story to take because it gives the audience a hero they can't look up to, and yet, it's a brilliant choice because it gives them a hero they can relate to. For me, at least, it definitely got me excited about the idea of seeing this guy grow into something greater over the course of the series. I thought it was a really fun 24 minutes!
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- Many languages took a while to develop a true distinction between the colors we call blue and green. - The fictionalized portrayal of the historical Guan Yu in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, clearly an influence on this series, wielded a weapon known as the Green Dragon Crescent Blade, written with a character for green that could just as easily mean blue (靑). - I'm going to go ahead and assume that weapon was itself named in reference to what's commonly known in English as the Azure Dragon, a figure in Chinese mythology who has long suffered from this exact color-related identity crisis. So, despite not visibly matching what's on the screen, the choice of subtitle here could very well be considered correct in a technical sense.
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09-15-2020, 06:56 PM | #8 |
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So, right away, the thing I loved most about that premiere was how unafraid it was to make Liu Bei look utterly pathetic. He gets hit on the head at least what? Half a dozen times? It's a real risk for the story to take because it gives the audience a hero they can't look up to, and yet, it's a brilliant choice because it gives them a hero they can relate to. For me, at least, it definitely got me excited about the idea of seeing this guy grow into something greater over the course of the series. I thought it was a really fun 24 minutes!
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So, despite not visibly matching what's on the screen, the choice of subtitle here could very well be considered correct in a technical sense.
I'm glad your enjoying the show with me! The episode 2 write up should come soonish? So look forward to that.
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09-15-2020, 08:29 PM | #9 |
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Aaaaaaahhhh the first episode is so good. Man, I get the feeling this show's gonna be a blast.
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09-15-2020, 10:07 PM | #10 |
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Episode 2 "Gun-Shi-Il-Che! Liu Bei and Guan Yun!"
Episode 2 immediately picks up where the last one left off. With Hei Jin defeated and this time seeing him get knocked out his transformation. Xu Shu shows up and we get some more info on the Dream Battle. The Legend Heroes are supposed to duke it out and the last one standing gets their wishes granted. Very Ryuki-esque but that not all the winner’s Hero Piece actually gets to become a human as well! I like this because the Hero Pieces are going to be their own characters in their own right so giving them a stake in battle also feels organic to the story. Liu Bei is naturally very put off by this whole battling thing and he almost cancels the contract again. But upon learning about how Guan Yun goes back to being an inanimate object decides to continue the fight. This brings up the fact that the people can just quit being Legend Heroes. Though I have my suspension that there is more to this than meets the eye. Especially what we see at the end of the episode. The next scene is honestly a great continuation of one from the previous episode as Guan Yun proclaims that he should use his knife for cooking and fighting after tasting his delicious meal. I just want to highlight this scene. Liu Bei takes his new powers really well and goes into what I can only describe as pulling a Gaim as we see Liu Bei transform to help with everyday activities and unlike Kouta he actually does pretty well. But Liu Bei is pretty tired afterwards and that’s when Hei Jin strikes this time with an upgrade his mace is now a flail. Which brings up how exactly do Legend Heroes upgrade themselves? Ah well questions for another day. Still this time Hei Jin actually manages to win. Well obviously Liu Bei can’t just take this lying so he focuses all his time on training. Cue granting montage with Gongsun Zan. The next day we see Liu Bei walk past a couple of guys he helped yesterday and after much struggle he ultimately decides to reserve his strength for when he fights. But Liu Bei jumps into action once he hears some kids screaming from being stuck on a broken Ferris wheel. Which I gotta say was pretty suspicious and I’m immediately proven correct as Hei Jin shows up beating Liu Bei up proclaiming that he was the one who broke the Ferris wheel all to make Liu Bei transform and exhaust himself. And with righteous anger Liu Bei and Guan Yun push past limitations and transform and fight. Also the kids that Liu Bei saved cheers him on which helps him regain his energy. And mange’s to finally beat Hei Jin but it not over yet as Hei Jin activates Final Battle and the city is put into a dome that freezes time and two engage first in 2v2 vehicle fight before turning into a mech fight. Guan Yin explains that the Final Battle is used using the last of a Legend Heroes power so I think it isn't going to be like Sentai requiring a mech every episode maybe once every 2-3 episodes. After the battle is one Liu Bei decides he is going to help people as himself while saving his energy for the dream being a nice balance between his sense of justice and his duty. We see that Hei Jin Hero Piece is turned into stone as well as his Changer being destroyed and an image of Hei Jin and an elderly woman holding a trophy from into the sky before breaking like glass. I got 2 theories for this theory 1 that was a memory which drove him into being a Legend Hero in the first place and with his loss the memory is destroyed/never happened. Theory 2 is that was a reality in which Hei Jin won the dream battle and had his wish granted with his charger destroyed it no longer a possibility. We then see 7 tech-angels announcing that the first Legend Hero has been defeated confused by how such a weak looking person could do it. With Xu Shu looking quite happy ending the episode As for final thoughts? Episode 2 is a breather having Liu Bei adjusting to his new role as Legend Heroes as well show off his heroicness. We also establish the Dream Battle as competition as well as the Final Battle mechs and deepening the mystery with the 7 angels and what happenss if you lose.
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