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12-05-2020, 04:10 AM | #61 |
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OK still, what do you think about what I said about Tendou here?
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"Doesn't come across as The Best Dude"? wtf?!?! He's literally perfect. The speech about him ruling over everything and being chosen one isn't a hyperbole. Now with him being another asshole protagonist, and moreover, hypercompetent one, I'm afraid (and that it already happened) that it further reinforces where nice people are incompetent, scumbags are competent (where for Hibiki comparison here, you can be one and competent too, but unfortunately people may be irritated and irrationally label them as "mary sue" or "gary stu"). And well, I evaluate people more on how they would act to those that they're less likely to be nice tbh, so in this case, a stranger like Kagami. So he's an asshole; it can happen but it's less common for even those like them to be rude to family member (and in worse case, became actual villain for their sake)..
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KAMEN RIDER KABUTO - EPISODE 02
First episode with the Kabuto suit, and I think it’s a winner. I wasn’t crazy about the beetle horn (or whatever) on the helmet when I’d see it in pictures, or on figures. Not a bug guy! But in motion, with all of the bells and whistles, I think it really works. Quote:
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I love the scenes set there, and I like what it brings out of the characters, but… holy shit, another restaurant?! I know, it’s a Kamen Rider staple, but it feels so random to have it appear in this episode. The show already has the massive ZECT org to deal with, and the various machinations therein, so suddenly having this little French bistro where folks can hang out… I don’t know, it feels like it’s dropped in from a different show? It feels like it’s from a version of Kabuto where ZECT doesn’t exist.
And Kagami having this as a part-time job? He needs a part-time job at a bistro while he’s working for a highly-militarized secret organization devoted to eradicating monstrous doppelgangers who defy the laws of physics? Quote:
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Kabuto’s suit! His full CHANGE BEETLE Henshin! I dug it. How do you feel about the debut of Kabuto’s base suit? Is that beetle crest too much? (I like how it comes up out of the chest and locks in.) Color work for you? (I think the red carapace as chest armor really pops.) What do you think is the best part of the Henshin, and why is it the alarm claxon that goes off just before Tendou inserts the Zecter?
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12-05-2020, 06:11 AM | #62 |
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Kagami's rejection is like seeing Peter Parker telling the radioactive spider to make him Spider-Man and reaching out his hand, only to have the spider ignore him and crawl away to bite Flash Thompson instead.
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12-05-2020, 09:32 AM | #63 |
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Kabuto’s suit! His full CHANGE BEETLE Henshin! I dug it. How do you feel about the debut of Kabuto’s base suit? Is that beetle crest too much? (I like how it comes up out of the chest and locks in.) Color work for you? (I think the red carapace as chest armor really pops.) What do you think is the best part of the Henshin, and why is it the alarm claxon that goes off just before Tendou inserts the Zecter? Quote:
Recruiting Tendou to boss someone around... did Tendou rub off on Kagami? ZECT is just something that provides the Kabuto Zecter for... Tendou to use, and they'll hunt Tendou for being outsider who uses their tool without permission. That also shows about Tendou's apathy to something like rules or laws due to his ego being allowed to do anything because he's perfect and can accomplish any task, or at best, him being pragmatic to feel like someone that's capable should be the one wearing Kabuto Zecter and eliminate Worms. Tendou so far feels like having the mindset of a hero (or that he only wants to kill Worm for his narcissistic tendencies, he's another anti-hero main Rider either way) being someone that is never fail or lose; invincible (flawed take if it's the case, or he doesn't care about this), probably ZECT's true concern about the Kabuto Zecter being used by someone outside of its member is not about that, but likely about the Kabuto Zecter being misused for someone's other amusements in a horrific way (e.g. causing destruction), if someone's using that turns out to lack moral decency; regardless of how strong they are (which Tendou boasts himself as); strong person without decent morals is a thug, a strong person with decent morals but the lack of desire to use that strength to serve others may well make a great sportsman, but will be a lousy hero.
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12-05-2020, 12:43 PM | #64 |
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Not a bug guy? Blasphemy! It's what shapes Kamen Rider, no matter where you personally begin! It's a source of backlash the time a Kamen Rider is made not to sport a bug motif! Jokes aside, I think it's not a big deal for Kamen Riders to be made outside bug theme, unlike for some people there. IIRC, no such thing as an inherent bug theme for Kamen Rider philosophy, it was only something like, "if there's no religion there's Kamen Rider", or "human lives are more important than justice", etc.
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Minor? Hiyori's the main heroine for this series. And people being a sucker for melodrama is a common concurence, and no offense, but unfortunately, that contributes to making the world being a harder place to live. Those who love drama is a serious issue in society; because those kind of people try to stir up drama even when drama doesn’t exist, creating a life that others envy even when they must drown everyone in drama, people thriving off car accidents, disasters, or death, gossiping and make up lies to provide story fodders, causing fights and disruptions in order to fulfill the need for more drama, etc. That aside, Hiyori's likely source of depression comes from a clear-cut source, but it's not brought about here. Probably coming from there, her demeanor is rude and quite misanthropic, with her questioning to others why she should be the one to do the job like cooking.
I called Hiyori "minor" because that's where she's at in Episode 2? I'm not sure where everyone goes, but I feel okay suggesting that a teenage girl who's in just a few non-action scenes is a more minor participant than Kagami. She's fun to talk about, but she isn't exactly propelling the plot in this one. To her melodrama... it's a TV show? I think it's okay to enjoy conflict (physical and emotional) without seeing it reflected in the real world. If anything, there's a catharsis to experiencing Hiyori's troubles because it's not real. It's a way of connecting with those emotions in a safe, controlled way. Finally, I don't think she's being mean to anyone here? The dish that she's making in the back is for her own use, or to share with friends. It's not on the menu but Tendou insists she serve it to him. If anything, he's being mean? Pushy, at the very least. (Which I'm okay with because he's clearly trying to get her to acknowledge her talent, so it's a well-meaning pushiness.) Quote:
There's a thing Kamen Rider tends to put forward as a message, where you should respect organizations, but always be skeptical of them. It's like the difference between deference and blind obedience. There're frequently these structure that exist that are, like, 80% useful, and it takes a hero to get them to 100%.
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12-05-2020, 02:06 PM | #65 |
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Just occurred to me I should probably clarify that I was only speaking hypothetically there? Word choice is one of those things you're way better at than me. Opinions on Kabuto I've seen generally range from "okay; definitely not my fave" to "okay; not quite my fave", so sorry if I got you thinking there's some huge faction of people who utterly despise Kabuto. Or at least, I haven't seen them either. Perhaps if they do exist, they take a page from the Worms and hide among us in secret?
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12-05-2020, 03:07 PM | #66 |
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People hating on Kabuto would require people talking about Kabuto, and from what I've seen on the boards, that's rarer than most other series
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12-05-2020, 03:18 PM | #67 |
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Oh, okay, then; I think I get this! So the haters hide in secret like the Worms, and the hardcore fans must just do all their talking about Kabuto faster than normal human senses can register, like the man himself, leaving only the ambivalent masses to occasionally bring the show up. It all makes sense now!
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12-05-2020, 03:39 PM | #68 |
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I think it's one of the shows that's just kinda "there." I don't see many people saying it's their favorite, I don't see many people saying they hated it. Doesn't seem to be a show that provokes a lot of passion in people.
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12-05-2020, 03:49 PM | #69 |
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Oh, okay, then; I think I get this! So the haters hide in secret like the Worms, and the hardcore fans must just do all their talking about Kabuto faster than normal human senses can register, like the man himself, leaving only the ambivalent masses to occasionally bring the show up. It all makes sense now!
That's been my experience so far. I love Kamen Rider just as, like, an idea, so I'm probably going to be able to draw at least some enjoyment out of this series. Had it been my first Rider show, though? Uh. Maybe wouldn't be on these boards right now.
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12-05-2020, 04:03 PM | #70 |
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Indeed, the ongoing battle between these two groups might be going on all around us at this very moment, blocked from view like a particularly toxic social media account... Quote:
Had it been my first Rider show, though? Uh. Maybe wouldn't be on these boards right now.
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