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11-30-2018, 06:42 PM | #21 |
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Not Ghost....NOOOOO !
Though...:Tsukasa sooo......HELL YEAH ! "cough" I do not think Ghost is a very good season, but it is not the worst season, I would rather watch Ghost over Wizard mainly due to things actually happening in Ghost, and the fact that I actually like some but not all of the characters. Overall Ghost has issues, Takeru being one of them.... BUT WHO CARES ! THE PASSING THROUGH KAMEN RIDER IS BACK ! For the record Decade is not really a good season either, but god damn do I love the main characters in it. |
11-30-2018, 06:51 PM | #22 |
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But artistically speaking, Decade and Hibiki really stand out the most to me. Ghost is epic for designs, and later builds. But it does kind of have a bit of a middle 'wandering spirit' vibe. xD Wizard is good in themes and concept as well as inherent tropes it used. Though the toys probably could have used some work. That's an oopsy that's hopefully been corrected. I can't really say any season has been the worst. They've all brought different things to the table for what they were at the time they were made and what they were intended to cover and what their inspiration draws were. Each series really shouldn't be held to each other like that because of how inherently different they are. With Decade in particular, what you have to keep in mind with it is that it's a send up to classic Riders. It's essentially the spirit of original era and how it's part of that and then pulling in the other Rider worlds of heisei. Essentially he and Diend are the new age Shocker riders. But one's that are of tech that surpass anything of Shocker ever before. Once you see it from that angle of a Shocker Slider rider and the story angles from that, the series really begins to find it's place in what it is as the Sliders of the 01 universe. In CW DC terms, he's kind of the Earth X Ray given amnesia and develops in a free world from their influence. And the rest is all discovery that builds to that revelation. Last edited by Librarian; 11-30-2018 at 06:59 PM.. |
11-30-2018, 07:01 PM | #23 |
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Decade's original ending I still think is one of the best endings ever to a series. But the movies and re-edits really had to back pedal it and a lot was changed in that last minute.
But artistically speaking, Decade and Hibiki really stand out the most to me. Ghost is epic for designs, and later builds. But it does kind of have a bit of a middle 'wandering spirit' vibe. xD Wizard is good in themes and concept as well as inherent tropes it used. Though the toys probably could have used some work. That's an oopsy that's hopefully been corrected. I can't really say any season has been the worst. They've all brought different things to the table for what they were at the time they were made and what they were intended to cover and what their inspiration draws were. Each series really shouldn't be held to each other like that because of how inherently different they are. Wizard, 90% filler, it really hurts the season that for most people is going to just feel extremely droll to get through, and it is a shame due to the fantastic suits, monster designs and ideas, it does not help that Kamen Rider Mage was built up only to not really be much of anything in the show when she finally got to enter the stage. Decade, I like the concept and overall it works, there was no need to get the actual actors to reprice their roles since it is a dimension jumping season, Tsukasa himself is also a major highlight for me in the show and I too like how it ended. But I do not think that was the intended end, overall most of the things happening in the film where likely supposed to have been the last arc for the series, executives and behind the scenes issues got in the way of the overall run. I would have loved for the last story arc to actually involve the past riders like Kiva and Blade hunting Decade down, instead of being made into a mess via the movie, the fact that the movie came out MONTHS after the show ended really hurt it as well, shit happened here and it is kinda obvious. God damn I love the sound effects for the Decadriver, overall my favorite driver in the series. Last edited by DecoyBlackMage; 11-30-2018 at 07:04 PM.. |
11-30-2018, 07:11 PM | #24 |
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Hibiki I would say, but the mess happening behind scenes are pretty known about so it is not really weird how that went, half is amazing, the rest is......Urgh...
Wizard, 90% filler, it really hurts the season that for most people is going to just feel extremely droll to get through, and it is a shame due to the fantastic suits, monster designs and ideas, it does not help that Kamen Rider Mage was built up only to not really be much of anything in the show when she finally got to enter the stage. Decade, I like the concept and overall it works, there was no need to get the actual actors to reprice their roles since it is a dimension jumping season, Tsukasa himself is also a major highlight for me in the show and I too like how it ended. But I do not think that was the intended end, overall most of the things happening in the film where likely supposed to have been the last arc for the series, executives and behind the scenes issues got in the way of the overall run. I would have loved for the last story arc to actually involve the past riders like Kiva and Blade hunting Decade down, instead of being made into a mess via the movie, the fact that the movie came out MONTHS after the show ended really hurt it as well, shit happened here and it is kinda obvious. God damn I love the sound effects for the Decadriver, overall my favorite driver in the series. Decade was a timing issue, but also the complete end reworking. That one could have been so much better, the timing wasn't so much of an issue, as it was lack of really having the time to work out the better story paths. Though I'd argue the usage of Blade should be done a little more sparingly. There are some hanging plot threads from Blade's series that they've ignored a bit too much in that regard, but also need to address. Wizard I have no real complaints about, I mean the entire concept was built around cracker jack rings and other toy emphasis in that regard, and in many ways was meant to kind of be a Kiva 2.0, but took time to find its footing. *Shrug* Varies series to series. I prefer most self-contained to themselves, but even "filler" content usually has deeper meanings in it too in what it covers. Rider series are fun in that regard from an artistic standpoint of the show as art itself. Zi-O I like because it sidesteps a lot of those issues by the innate nature of the storyline, so it's more fun and self-parody to itself in that regard, but also done in a respectful light hearted way. |
11-30-2018, 07:16 PM | #25 |
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Hibiki was one of those they should have stuck to the original path, even with the BTS issues and last minute changes, they still ended up following the main story path, so the changes were moderately pointless and they could have explored various ends better in the original plan.
Decade was a timing issue, but also the complete end reworking. That one could have been so much better, the timing wasn't so much of an issue, as it was lack of really having the time to work out the better story paths. Though I'd argue the usage of Blade should be done a little more sparingly. There are some hanging plot threads from Blade's series that they've ignored a bit too much in that regard, but also need to address. Wizard I have no real complaints about, I mean the entire concept was built around cracker jack rings and other toy emphasis in that regard, and in many ways was meant to kind of be a Kiva 2.0, but took time to find its footing. *Shrug* Varies series to series. I prefer most self-contained to themselves, but even "filler" content usually has deeper meanings in it too in what it covers. Rider series are fun in that regard from an artistic standpoint of the show as art itself. Zi-O I like because it sidesteps a lot of those issues by the innate nature of the storyline, so it's more fun and self-parody to itself in that regard, but also done in a respectful light hearted way. Overall Zi-O has been far better then I first expected it to be, the head writer was my biggest worry. Sougo took a bit of time to warm up but his clear manipulating ways is enjoyable, I would be surprised if he is actually shocked when Woz eventually betrays him, it is happening ! WE ALL KNOW IT ! Considering the massive jump in his combat abilities over the short amount of time he has had his powers as well makes me wonder if he has not had a few time travels on his own in secret to get stronger. |
11-30-2018, 07:21 PM | #26 |
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I didn't care much for Decade (except that awesome theme song), But I do like Tsukasa though. Mostly for the fact that he's a passing through rider that has no f**ks to give.
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11-30-2018, 07:37 PM | #27 |
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I cannot think if any Rider show that is truly unwatchable, super sentai has those though.
Overall Zi-O has been far better then I first expected it to be, the head writer was my biggest worry. Sougo took a bit of time to warm up but his clear manipulating ways is enjoyable, I would be surprised if he is actually shocked when Woz eventually betrays him, it is happening ! WE ALL KNOW IT ! Considering the massive jump in his combat abilities over the short amount of time he has had his powers as well makes me wonder if he has not had a few time travels on his own in secret to get stronger. And then they can use that as an excuse to blame Sougo for the issues in Hibiki. (Which tbh, it was only a handful of things that needed progressively toning down, and not the massive overhaul it got BTS, but hindsight is 20/20.) I don't think Sougo has been time travel training, though he could be. I think it's more confidence based. Early on he was a very 'bad' rider in training, but didn't know what anything was. As he learned it all though, and got confident in it, we see that transition to quickly even overcoming Geiz, which is interesting as that's also where he really starts displaying his reading people abilities too better. Though we see hints of it early on with the Fourze/Faiz episodes too. But his progressive confidence in what he's learning and how to handle it, and the lessons each episode gives him that he takes to heart as well as using his moral compass seems to really be the main driving factor to how quickly his power level is rising. Which I think is interesting how this episode highlights that for Geiz too. His waivering confidence making him weaker, but restoring that confidence brought him back to being an influencer on the future itself. Part of that seemed accidental on Sougo's part too though, because Geiz really took that OOO's episodes beating hard too. And then the added bit in how the Wizard another Rider was more complicated than Geiz was seeing too, but Sougo noticed it. There's a lot more here in that inter-character dynamic that's really standing out more. How tunnel visioned Geiz and Tsukuyomi have been, and rationalizing that, but Sougo is more open minded, and Tsukuyomi's already learning to see more and think outside herself, but Geiz is the one still with internal conflicts in that way. Makes the progression of the story that much more interesting on what Oma actually is and how. And soon we'll have Decade in the mix and how unhappy Tsukasa is about having his rider throne taken by an upstart. Really looking forward to how this develops out. So much rich material to explore for them. The previous 11 episodes were really the journey to what comes next now with these little turnovers and confidence builders and establishing material. Each piece seems to be building to a bigger whole, but subtle steps forward in doing so. Woz betraying them seems very expected. But also how much of a betrayal is it really? He still serves his overlord. Very interesting character conflict coming up in that I think. His entire job is to retain the future, but he also knows what better future is starting to unfold. It's a very curious thing what his character may go through now. But definitely leads to explaining more on his potential character enhancements later. And I think the resolution to that will be interesting with how Sougo will talk him down, and prove himself a wise overlord. Sentai definitely varies far more than Riders. But most have been really good, if even some off the wall. Can't think of many there that are actively "Unwatchable" over the last 20 years. I was never actively worried about Nin's writer handling Zi-O, he has a passion for Rider series, and is doing marvelously. He's a damn talented writer when the passion is there, and he has some good material from the overlords to work from. Nin's being so aimless wandering wasn't really his fault as the lack of direction was there from the top to begin with. He gets more blame for that than he really should and made the best he could from what he was given to work with. Going into Nin with the devices and Mecha, you can kind of see that one was a straight up screwing around concepts season that was all over the place even at the toy design standpoint. (Though I still love Rodeo Maru!) But at the point we get a cowboy hat ninja ranger, with a poncho, and a cheeseburger morpher. You can kind of tell at that point that the overlords may have overchiefed on the peace pipe themselves. For lack of a better phrase. Spaghetti Western Ninja story was definitely a hard concept to handle for any writer. It essentially a series of emulation. A Japanese writer emulating an Italian writer/director, who is trying to emulate an American genre, with a traditional Japanese twist, and lots of random content thrown at them at the last minute. That one was a recipe for disaster no matter how you look at it. But from what he was given from the Overlords to work with on that one, he managed to do some really fun results where he could. But in all ways, you can kinda feel the "BoA is getting on our nerves too" overtones from even Bandai Japan. Then Kyu you feel the excitement and fun coming back, and how it was so much a soul restorative series. Though there were a lot of fun things to Nin too. Sometimes it's easier to blame one name you know. But the shows are really a diverse effort across the board on all levels. But I expect we'll see some great things from future sentai. The next 5 series I think are going to really keep surprising and building the wow. Same as I expect the next several rider series to really be some great surprises and new spins too. Whatever the hiccup was, seems to have passed, and things are really springing forward in amazing ways. As long as they keep batting away bad and harmful pitches at least. Cause we don't need that BoA mentality infecting Toei and BoJ. Which honestly is probably what even Hibiki's original writer was worried about too early on from what some of the stories were about BTS stuff. Last edited by Librarian; 11-30-2018 at 08:06 PM.. |
12-01-2018, 02:04 AM | #28 |
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I was a little disappointed to see Takeru show up in the preview for next week. Apparently I'm still having trouble shaking the whole "ugh, this asshole" reaction (not hyperbole, that was literally what ran through my head). But then we saw the Agito and Hibiki suit, we got Decade's catchphrases, and I'm really excited. I know Decade as a show was kind of a trainwreck, but it's the show that got me into Kamen Rider and I've really been looking forward to seeing how this series handles Tsukasa. I'm sure I'll be disappointed when he shows up for about two minutes to drop fruit out of a window or whatever, but I don't care: this is the cameo I've been waiting for.
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12-01-2018, 08:38 AM | #29 |
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So, this episode was the best we've had yet. The direction and the cinematography were brilliant, and the character stuff was handled decently as well. Of course, Kaito's back on his strength stuff, but even Kouta's handled well imo - before everything with Hellheim went down, he was no-one special, just another drifter without a job or prospects, and that's how the scene at Drupers read to me; without the Golden Fruit to force him to develop as a person, he essentially stayed unmemorable and passive. Especially stark when compared to God Kouta, may he rest in peace. Probably not intentional, but that's how I see it.
Also, next week's preview containing the immortal "Ore Wa Tenkuuji Takeru" brings me great joy.
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I was a little disappointed to see Takeru show up in the preview for next week. Apparently I'm still having trouble shaking the whole "ugh, this asshole" reaction (not hyperbole, that was literally what ran through my head). But then we saw the Agito and Hibiki suit, we got Decade's catchphrases, and I'm really excited. I know Decade as a show was kind of a trainwreck, but it's the show that got me into Kamen Rider and I've really been looking forward to seeing how this series handles Tsukasa. I'm sure I'll be disappointed when he shows up for about two minutes to drop fruit out of a window or whatever, but I don't care: this is the cameo I've been waiting for.
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