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11-06-2016, 09:15 AM | #141 |
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Rhetorically. How did you not get that?
This is where context is a very important thing. You just ran off a huge rant on me without realising that that I only "criticised" the use of old concepts in response to someone saying that this was supposed to be a new take of PR. I then gave examples all all the things that aren't new. I was not saying at all that referencing MMPR was a bad thing, but that you then can't say this is a totally new iteration of PR if it takes so much from MMPR specifically. So yeah, you look a bit foolish.
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11-06-2016, 09:18 AM | #142 |
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I'm perfectly fine with "new takes". This thing could have looked absolutely nothing like Daizyujin and still turned out brilliantly. But not only does it look like a mess, but it doesn't even look like a combining robot. The huge difference between the combining toy (or hell, the t-rex alone if you haven't seen that pic) and this one revealed illustrates that.
That needed to be the one thing they got right when doing this, and it doesn't even look like they managed that.
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11-06-2016, 09:36 AM | #143 |
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I agree with Zeo here. Just because it's a new take does not mean it needs to be not even remotely accurate to the source material. What's the point of making a Power Rangers movie if it isn't going to even feel like Power Rangers? Hell, the new Ninja Turtles movies might be bad to awful, but they at least felt like Ninja Turtles.
Regardless of what you think of the Marvel Cinematic Universe at this point, all of the movies still feel like their comic counterparts. This feels more like, "Hey, we're going to take the name of a hugely success brand and put its title over a movie that has nothing to do with that brand, but we'll pretend its that brand." |
11-06-2016, 09:41 AM | #144 |
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Example: For all the abuse ROTF Devastator gets at least I can tell that's made up of six construction vehicles. I can barely make out 5 dinosaurs here.
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11-06-2016, 09:44 AM | #145 |
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Those weren't the argument though. The argument was 'If you want a new spin on things, why reuse the characters and change other things?' This megazord CLEARLY is absolute wank when it comes to being a combination of vehicles, but as a giant robot it looks pretty nifty. Just not the right style
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11-06-2016, 09:46 AM | #146 |
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But here's the thing. That didn't invalidate the admittedly very cheap argument of 'new take'. It's a NEW TAKE on the original show and the original characters. Movies like these are always done for that, and more likely than not it's to try and getting a new audience or stop it from being niche.
"New take" implie sit is taking the original and making it new. But this didn't take anything from the original. It is an entirely different thing, not even vaguely resembling the original. Quote:
I agree with Zeo here. Just because it's a new take does not mean it needs to be not even remotely accurate to the source material. What's the point of making a Power Rangers movie if it isn't going to even feel like Power Rangers? Hell, the new Ninja Turtles movies might be bad to awful, but they at least felt like Ninja Turtles.
Regardless of what you think of the Marvel Cinematic Universe at this point, all of the movies still feel like their comic counterparts. This feels more like, "Hey, we're going to take the name of a hugely success brand and put its title over a movie that has nothing to do with that brand, but we'll pretend its that brand." Quote:
This literally looks like a guy in a suit with doofy wings stuck on the back. Quote:
My counter-arguement was "you can't claim this is a new and different take on it when it takes so much from MMPR specifically." Quote:
This megazord CLEARLY is absolute wank when it comes to being a combination of vehicles, but as a giant robot it looks pretty nifty.
It doesn't look like a robot at all, it looks like a guy in a bodysuit. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 11-06-2016 at 09:49 AM.. |
11-06-2016, 09:51 AM | #147 |
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Actually, it does.
"New take" implie sit is taking the original and making it new. But this didn't take anything from the original. It is an entirely different thing, not even vaguely resembling the original. Pretty much exactly this. Yeah. Unless a movie TF has a Cybertronian alt mode, you can usually tell "oh yeah, that supposed to turn into something." Hell, AOE Grimlock at least had the T-rex heads on his shoulders. This literally looks like a guy in a suit with doofy wings stuck on the back. EDIT: Didn't notice your second point about the mech. Dude, this whole site is dedicated to fans of franchises in which spandex is good armour and literally everyone worth their salt in a fight is in a suit
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11-06-2016, 10:06 AM | #148 |
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I'm trying hard to be positive about this movie. I like the weapons, I liked the zord teaser shots they released with their respective actors/rangers sitting on their respective zords. I was even okay with the strange organic suits they decided to go with. But this.. What the actual f-bomb am I supposed to do with this? I realize it's just the interactive toy, but I saw the photos we can't post here too and I'm having real trouble trying to see how five dinosaurs become that. And my real overwhelming thought? "Oh, I didn't know Power Rangers was a sequel to Pacific Rim. I hope he combines with Gypsy Danger!"
It's not a bad looking mech. It's sleek, it's stylized. Just absolutely nothing in that picture says Power Rangers. And it should. You should look at that and instantly go "Yea, I see what they were doing. Going for something new, keeping in some of the old." Not "What is that from?" |
11-06-2016, 10:40 AM | #149 |
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My point is, the Megazord seems like far more a radical departure than anything else in the movie. When so much is directly taken from MMPR, the Megazord being so out there and un-Megazord-y, on top of looking awful, sticks out. |
11-06-2016, 10:45 AM | #150 |
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That's my point. Sorry, when I said "it" I meant the Megazord not the movie itself.
My point is, the Megazord seems like far more a radical departure than anything else in the movie. When so much is directly taken from MMPR, the Megazord being so out there and un-Megazord-y, on top of looking awful, sticks out. In that case all criticisms are valid, even if I like the design
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