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07-24-2013, 11:56 AM | #6051 |
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Okay, time to calm down and move onto the Wizard portion... My main question is, what the fuck was this trying to say? Much like the show, this isn't really Haruto's gig but the Gate's. Our Gate is a girl so disillusioned by the mundanity of reality, that she'd happily escape to an Underworld that repeats the same day infinitum, where she gets to be a superhero and save the world. What is more interesting, what is more confusing, is that this is presented in a negative light, Haruto and the gang are trying to get her to wake up from this and face reality.
This is a great moral message, "wake up and smell the coffee!" But wait...don't we turn to the repetitive, formulaic toku and its superheroes to escape the mundanity of our own realities? We know that near enough every toku episode is going to be the same, like groundhog day, and yet we happily tune in every week because it presents a black and white world, where things go right more than they go wrong, unlike our own lives. Aren't we all Poitrine? Is being an adult Toku fan the same as being in her Underworld? Is Wizard trying to tell the adults in the audience to move on and grow up? To stop criticising something made for children and just get on with their own lives? I'm probably over thinking this - giving it to much credit but I couldn't quite tell if I was meant to be offended by all this. It was better than Fourze's portion though, either way. probably because Wizard is so consistently flawed that it is so much harder to fuck up. Haruto was as great as ever, but I wish this badass gunslinging version of Rinko would turn up in the show sometime. She was sexier than anything we were supposed to dribble over in the Fourze part. Wizard is an insanely cool Rider but his powers are a lot more basic than Fourze's, so I appreciated how they made every moment exaggerated and stylish so he could complete visually, I had so much more fun watching Wizard than I did Fourze in the end because it seemed they put way more effort into his fights to balance it out. The only thing that lets Wizard's portion down in the action is it seems they just found a load of old monster suits from Fourze and OOO and threw them in there. Bamba was pretty shit, to be fair, but at least he wasn't just an old dusted off costume. Plus even though this assumedly had a bigger budget, the giant CGI monster fights look just as awful here as they do in the show.
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07-24-2013, 12:09 PM | #6052 |
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Okay, time to calm down and move onto the Wizard portion... My main question is, what the fuck was this trying to say? Much like the show, this isn't really Haruto's gig but the Gate's. Our Gate is a girl so disillusioned by the mundanity of reality, that she'd happily escape to an Underworld that repeats the same day infinitum, where she gets to be a superhero and save the world. What is more interesting, what is more confusing, is that this is presented in a negative light, Haruto and the gang are trying to get her to wake up from this and face reality.
This is a great moral message, "wake up and smell the coffee!" But wait...don't we turn to the repetitive, formulaic toku and its superheroes to escape the mundanity of our own realities? We know that near enough every toku episode is going to be the same, like groundhog day, and yet we happily tune in every week because it presents a black and white world, where things go right more than they go wrong, unlike our own lives. Aren't we all Poitrine? Is being an adult Toku fan the same as being in her Underworld? Is Wizard trying to tell the adults in the audience to move on and grow up? To stop criticising something made for children and just get on with their own lives? I'm probably over thinking this - giving it to much credit but I couldn't quite tell if I was meant to be offended by all this. It was better than Fourze's portion though, either way. probably because Wizard is so consistently flawed that it is so much harder to fuck up. Haruto was as great as ever, but I wish this badass gunslinging version of Rinko would turn up in the show sometime. She was sexier than anything we were supposed to dribble over in the Fourze part. Wizard is an insanely cool Rider but his powers are a lot more basic than Fourze's, so I appreciated how they made every moment exaggerated and stylish so he could complete visually, I had so much more fun watching Wizard than I did Fourze in the end because it seemed they put way more effort into his fights to balance it out. The only thing that lets Wizard's portion down in the action is it seems they just found a load of old monster suits from Fourze and OOO and threw them in there. Bamba was pretty shit, to be fair, but at least he wasn't just an old dusted off costume. Plus even though this assumedly had a bigger budget, the giant CGI monster fights look just as awful here as they do in the show.
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07-24-2013, 12:30 PM | #6053 |
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Sounds more like the Wizard portion just has a really confused, dumb message, since it's ultimately speaking to the children. It'd almost be like it's telling the kids to stop watching Wizard itself.
A noble message but still... Also, I don't believe the crossover movies get that big of a budget increase. I think only the summer movies did. |
07-24-2013, 12:38 PM | #6054 |
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Watched eps 25 and 26 of Fourze. It's prom time!
It was a very emotional storyline, (specially shun decision at the end), but honestly I'm more excited about the next one, Gentaro's grandpa! Continuing meteor storyline! |
07-24-2013, 12:42 PM | #6055 |
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Sounds more like the Wizard portion just has a really confused, dumb message, since it's ultimately speaking to the children. It'd almost be like it's telling the kids to stop watching Wizard itself.
A noble message but still... Also, I don't believe the crossover movies get that big of a budget increase. I think only the summer movies did.
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07-24-2013, 12:45 PM | #6056 |
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Yeah, the summer movies are usually better. W's movie was awesome and had higher production values and better effects as well as being a good story.
Have you seen Fourze's summer flick? I think it's called "Everybody, it's space time" or something. |
07-24-2013, 12:48 PM | #6057 |
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Yeah remember I said it made a better second half of Fourze than Fourze's actual second half?
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07-24-2013, 01:09 PM | #6058 |
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Oh right.
Anyway, back to Ryuki: I'm kind of getting sick of hearing "Oneechan." Yes I know it's a real word, but has Japan never heard of synonyms? It's just such an annoying thing to hear every five seconds. I hear it more than "Henshin" it feels like. I also generally dislike plots revolving around siblings, as it's such an easy out. Parental issues are difficult to write and "best friends" is also hard to handle with gravitas, so let's just make them brothers/sisters/brother and sister. Boom, instant connection because one will always be the caregiver of the other because EVERYONE'S PARENTS ARE DEAD. All she does is whine about her brother but has ceased doing anything about it. She did some snooping for, like, three episodes. Also, BIG plothole. Right now, without their contract monsters they can't transform. That's BS, because Ryuki transformed before making a contract. He was in his blank form, but his suit still protected him and gave him shitty weapons. Why don't he and Ren transform into blanks to fight? And why do they need to transform? The monster's in the real world. They've fought monsters in the real world before. Why don't they force/lead it back into the mirror world, then turn into blanks to fight it? Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 07-24-2013 at 01:18 PM.. |
07-24-2013, 01:31 PM | #6059 |
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Now let's move on to the final portion, the Ultimatum portion where Fourze, Meteor and Goo get to meet Wizard and the gang and fight with them and man, who knew this'd turn out to be so good?!
It wraps the movie together fantastically and comes with quite a few surprises that will have everyone in the audience screaming and jumping around. I almost broke my bed in the fit of excitement. I just wish Eiji was around longer. His appearance was short but sweet. Also, all the Riders just seem to come together much more cohesively than they have in the other films I have seen, the chemistry between the Riders was just fantastic and watching them fight together was just awesome. Even the modern Riders get to make use of their bikes for once! This war is a spectacular one, which makes the pretty shitty first half an hour almost seem worth it. Almost. Really the only disappointing thing is that it is all so spectacular, when it comes down to taking down our main trio of villains it just doesn't end up competing or comparing and comes off a little flat. They turned out to be largely pointless and the whole thing didn't really have any plot, which spoilt this final but ultimately enjoyable segment.
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07-24-2013, 02:01 PM | #6060 |
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Huhjeez, now Ouja has Evildiver, and can make Genocider. Why, how, when? These are questions Ryuki does not answer. Ouja is the very deffinition of a terrible villain. Utterly unfounded in his cruelty, irredeemable, one-track, implausibly powerful and always pulling out new evil abilities just because. It's just so bad when he's around. I really thought, when I saw his design, he'd be an awesome villain. But no, he's a child's idea of a villain. A ruthless killer with no personality or goals who is super powered just because.
And Shiro, he's just as bad. It's almost like they're sort of making us sympathetic to him, but he's just as big a monster as Ouja for given someone this awful the tools to kill mindlessly. So far there's only been two well rounded characters in this show, and one is dead and another is only just now getting back into the game. Also, the rules about contract monsters has been thrown to the wind, (they almost never fight mirror monsters to feed their own anymore) and the whole thing about them losing their monsters was utterly pointless. (we never saw Dragredder or Darkwing ONCE when that happened. So much for the risk of them eating Ryuki and Knight) Ryuki is REALLY hard to watch right now. Can anyone tell me when it improves? I won't skip but I'd like to know when the light at the end of the tunnel is coming. |
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