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01-05-2021, 11:42 PM | #21 |
Tokusatsu Hero
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Because even though they get the word wrong, it's still an official sub release. And we need those in order to make sure stuff keeps coming.
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01-05-2021, 11:53 PM | #22 |
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And... a sub that atrocious isn't more likely to drive people away...?
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01-06-2021, 01:47 AM | #23 |
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I haven't watched the sub yet. But from what I've heard the only gripe is "Honshin." If one word, even if it's the word we all know and love, being off makes it that atrocious, than I guess it's doomed for failure in it's entirety. They way I view it, even if it's bad, we should still be thankful we have an official sub release. That way we can find some way to support our cause of getting more Rider in the west.
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01-06-2021, 07:58 AM | #24 |
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Oh it's a lot more than Honshin, Honshin is the meme made out of the entire mess.
From what I heard the main gripe is it reads like someone just ripped a script that was given to them onto the subtitles. So you'll have Character Name: Whatever they say And just a whole bunch of like grammar stuff too from what I heard. It does not seem on glance, by any means on par with the 1971 and Kuuga releases. There's a reason a lot of people are going "Wtf Team Rider?" when it comes to them promoting it. Also I don't like the mentality of because something is official we have to support it, especially when it comes to TOKU, they're not the best bunch when it comes to this stuff. Just because it's an official release, does not mean it's good. Like I'll be honest, I want to support stuff like this but also I long for like actual quality. Like as an example sure I'll laugh at the Gridman subs for like a minute or two, but then I sorta stare at my desk and go "This could be so much better..." because they should do better and we shouldn't force ourselves to consume something bad in order to show our support. Last edited by Enchilada645; 01-06-2021 at 08:09 AM.. |
01-06-2021, 09:06 AM | #25 |
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Yeah, sorry; but I've far more reason to be apprehensive of a bad job like this than grateful -- there's this attitude I think of treating any official sub like it's a net positive, when a bad job will more than likely contribute to us not getting official subs anymore. They'll look at the lack of traffic and attention and say "well clearly there's no audience for Kamen Rider in the west", when what they've given us is a limited stream of a Gaim movie, 2 episodes of a season and this which has the worst friggin' subs since Gridman.
I know this is gone off onto another topic now, but they need to put out quality stuff to keep people interested and hence for us to keep getting subs. I'm going to be critical when things like this come around.
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01-06-2021, 02:12 PM | #26 |
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I haven't watched the sub yet. But from what I've heard the only gripe is "Honshin." If one word, even if it's the word we all know and love, being off makes it that atrocious, than I guess it's doomed for failure in it's entirety. They way I view it, even if it's bad, we should still be thankful we have an official sub release. That way we can find some way to support our cause of getting more Rider in the west.
What matters is numbers, and just watching stuff and giving them money tells the suits "Oh okay they'll just eat anything we fucking plate them." This is why certain game companies get away with heinous shit because you're actively giving them money and that's what matters, at the end of the day they look at the numbers. If they realize they can half ass shit and people will watch it, they'll do it. Kamen Rider isn't excluded from this, at the end of the day Kamen Rider is there to make money from kids in Japan, not entertain adults in the west. |
01-06-2021, 06:52 PM | #27 |
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It's a mixed bag honestly. On the one hand, if we watch regardless, it gives the impression they can crap out whatever and we'll just take it. On the other, if we don't, then typically company execs simply think "Oh well clearly they just don't like [X]" It's very rare that trying to do better a second time around is their first idea. The best you can do in situations like these is make your displeasure heard on places higher ups actually listen to like social media, popular hashtags, etc.
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01-06-2021, 09:25 PM | #28 |
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Call me cynical, but I've always felt Team Kamen Rider exists only for Toei to sell KR toys in the US and aren't as interested in the shows themselves. Feels like every time I see Team Kamen Rider involved with a screening, it's mostly an excuse to give away belts or figures.
Like, I get that the toys are where KR gets money, but again, you can't help but draw comparisons to how Tsuburaya has been handling Ultraman. There is an actual concerted effort from them to get ALL of Ultraman available worldwide with mostly high quality subtitles and even dubs. So, I mean, as much as I'd love to see more KR available in the West, it's become clear that Toei's efforts are lacking. New episodes of Ultraman Z were pulling in over 1 million views, and that simulcast made that series a legitimate hit. |
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