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08-31-2020, 03:50 AM | #41 |
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08-31-2020, 03:57 AM | #42 |
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The only big argument screaming in my mind when Horobi confronts Aruto about human selfishness, malice etc etc is this.
"And you wanting to kill humans but we're supposed to just defend ourselves and not fight back?" How nice to have it only your way. Then it struck me immediately. Aruto is in an even worse situation than I am, he went through several hells (losing his dad, losing the company, getting possessed by Metal Cluster Hopper, losing Izu, unintentionally murdering Jin) He went through more shit and I do but he found it within himself to forgive Horobi. This is where kokoro hits home. The guy who believed in Humagear more than he believes in himself, has also started believing in himself, to have the capacity to move forward, to let go, to turn a tragedy into a learning opportunity for someone that nobody would have found it within them to ever provide. I am satisfied with this ending. So if this is how Reiwa will become moving forward, I am very excited to see how the other Riders tell their story (heh) |
08-31-2020, 07:24 AM | #43 |
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I’m also glad about this ending.
It’s kind of bittersweet... Seriously, I felt the pain Aruto had when he has to make the new Izu learn everything the OG Izu went through. As for Fuwa, he is really going the Showa Rider way hu? X) I will miss these characters. Also, There is ONLY one stuff out of place : Kamen Sell My Toys Rider : Eden He really comes out of nowhere. As for Azu, can we all agree that so far that’s a character we actually kind of hate? |
08-31-2020, 09:20 AM | #44 |
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It’s really sad how this series lost itself at the end. I hope Saber can be better; I’ve got higher hopes for it from who’s writing it.
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08-31-2020, 12:13 PM | #45 |
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I liked the finale in a lot of ways, it was pretty good all things considered. The Horobi vs Aruto fight was awesome and the resolution of it was satisfying. I wish he beat Ark-Scorpion as Zero-Two or simply Rising Hopper, Realizing Hopper just seemed very low effort (seriously, no additions to the suit?). I would have even taken his father giving him the CycloneRiser to become Ichigata. Nothing about Realizing Hopper was really impressive or special at all.
I liked some of the character epilogues, Yua/Valkyrie and Naki being the most satisfying. I also liked Jin and Horobi's new Metsuboujinrai. Fuwa/Vulcan's was straight-up odd and Raiden/Ikazuchi kinda got glossed over. And Gai/Thouser never really got his comeuppance save losing Rider fights a bunch of times so I'll never really be satisfied with his character arc. Disliked Aruto making another Izu and trying to mold her into being the exact same secretary he lost. After all this talk about giving Humagears their freedom and making a dramatic point of it through his fight with Horobi, this kind of just flies in the face of that. Cliffhanger with Azu and the new Kamen Rider was interesting, I guess we will see how all that amounts to in the winter film. Speaking of which, since it will be a standalone film, I hope that means the film will have a lengthier running time (same goes for Kiramager). I did like how bold these last few episodes were. Aruto becoming Ark-One was completely unexpected and made for a great twist and the growing conflict between Horobi and Aruto really upped the stakes which resulted in an exciting endgame. While the ending didn't deliver on all accounts, I have to give props to the showrunners for keeping things fresh and fun even after production was heavily affected by the pandemic. While I will always wonder how the show could have turned out had it not lost episodes, I'm happy with what we got. It was an exciting first series for the Reiwa era and overall a good Kamen Rider series. Not great, not terrible, just good. And all things considered, that's fine by me. |
08-31-2020, 04:39 PM | #46 |
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The ending is good for what it is aside from using 01 Realizing key despite swying Rising still. the wrap up are all nice with nod to current state of reality of BLM . everyone should just let go of their prejudice and forgive.
I feel the ending would be better if the story is fleshed out more. If someone that haven't watch 01 for a while and suddenly watch the ending they'll be impressed , but if they marathon it they wouldn't feel like the characters from episode 1-40 suddenly become the characters in episode 45. The whole Aims division feels disposable and when did Yaiba become a respectable captain? Is Fuwa a regular cop now? Gai is the new Dan in his basement. All the visuals are nice, but the journey to this finale is a rush. I'm not a fan of the semi decade like ending with a tease for more movies to come. It's like the place kiva fought decade and Azu suddenly transform again with not just red hair , but a witch or widow attire as well. I hope for a new threat not another slave subject tempted by the power to become another Ark soldier. |
08-31-2020, 07:17 PM | #47 |
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If Izu coming back is bad, then the other destroyed Humagears coming back is bad then? |
08-31-2020, 08:28 PM | #48 |
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With Izu, there's no way to bring her original incarnation back so there's more similarities to human death. It's permanent. So him trying to rebuild the exact same "person" feels wrong. She'll never be the original Izu and Aruto will never move on from his loss. Last edited by Xtreme RX; 08-31-2020 at 08:30 PM.. |
08-31-2020, 11:20 PM | #49 |
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Despite some disappointments, overall I enjoyed it a lot. Honestly, that describes both the finale and Zero-One as a series (and to be fair, it describes most other media too). For me the highlight of the episode, and possibly all of Zero-One, wasn't the final battle between Aruto and Horobi but that moment in between fighting when they were just talking. I do think it was different from endings we've seen before, in that it wasn't an argument or clash of ideals. It was empathy and compassion, and realizing the only way to truly end their conflict was to not destroy each other.
As for Izu, it seems like Aruto and the writers intend it to be like the original Izu has amnesia, not like a new one was built to replace her, so I'm just gonna imagine that Aruto used the original Izu's progrise key in the new body to give it the same personality and character traits that made Izu herself, it's only her memories that were lost.
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08-31-2020, 11:36 PM | #50 |
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I wasn't a fan of this ending and series. It felt political and in many ways it mirrors the divide in America. I also watch a lot of jdrama and I like to see past toku actors transition into bigger roles. I also like to predict which KR and SS actors/actresses will become future stars and I think that only the actor that plays Jin will have a decent future in acting. His height and looks transitions well for hs/college student roles.
Back to the finale, I wanted to see Fuwa return to his real family who he had forgotten because of the chip implant that allows him to transform with the shotriser wiping out his real memories. I didn't care for a new Izu being built which will have to start from scratch to become the Izu that was destroyed. I realize there was no way they weren't going to bring her back (I would have preferred that she didn't as her death would mean a lot more to me) and the only other way would have been the secretary key working and having her return as if she was never destroyed which would be similar to Poppy Pippopappo who returned as if she never was gone at all. I think Izu meant more to this series than Poppy did in ex-aid which is why everyone has an opinion on how her return or not returning could have been handled. Other KR series have also had large casts and have been better than zero one imho so having a large cast isn't the reason why I didn't like this series. Maybe things would have been better if the world wasn't affected with covid 19, but for me I never got into this series. I had high hopes for it too. One thing that was outstanding was the special effects. Zero One by far had the best special effects of any other series. Many will compare this to ex-aid because of the head writer and while there are some similarities, Ex-Aid is one of my favorite KR series of all time and Zero-One ranks just above ghost to me. Ex-Aid rider forms were also some of my favorite as well. Hyper Muteki is my 2nd favorite form of all time. I'm glad that others liked it more than I did. I'll read this thread again in a week and see what others have said they liked about zero one and rewatch key episodes and see if I like it on the 2nd go around. |
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