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03-19-2014, 03:40 PM | #9781 |
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The pieces fall together. I've seen this a dozen times in Transformers, when newer fans (regrdless of age) come into Transformers with no or minimal exposure to the brand, see G1 and assume it's some timeless classic. It happens everywhere, and this just makes all the more sense, because unlike G1, Agito has that false sense of maturity to it I mentioned. ESPECIALLY the bit about Faiz. Faiz, and I can't say I've seen it myself, has always been the show I hear LEAST about, except maybe next to Blade. What I do hear is not always positive, so if that was all people had and then they went BACK to Agito, they would've been even MORE suseptable to it's superficial qualities. Combined with only ACCOUNTS on it's story, I cna easily see some people forming some sort of quasi-mythical status to it. Imagining it to be much better than it really was. Still without a yard stick to compare, the masses accepted it as the false icon it had been built up to be, because it's foriegn and different and if you don't like it you just don't GET it because it's from Japan. Oh, oh this all makes so much sense. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 03-19-2014 at 03:45 PM.. |
03-19-2014, 03:45 PM | #9782 |
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Part of the reason I like Tokunation is that the opinions of posters here often diverge from the fandom consensus at large. Sometimes that attitude can come off as needlessly contrary... But it's nice that we have a group of people who try not to follow the herd. We're a bunch of Toku Rebels.
My dislike for Kuuga has nothing to do with being contrary, it's with the fact that it is a bad show. Maybe people appreciate the budget, the tone of the show etc those are all subjective things. But the lack of character arcs, the terrible pace those aren't subjective, they are facts. There are much more failings with Kuuga, that aren't personal with me, than those which are. I'd assume it was initially popular because of its culture place but that doesn't explain how people are still watching it today, while still being ignorant of the shows many, many, many failings.
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03-19-2014, 03:47 PM | #9783 |
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Also, didn't Kuuga have a Rider Kick that could destroy the planet?
Yeah, sorry, but you cannot kick a planet and destroy it. No ammount of fake science or ridiculous mythology can overcome the shear logistics of it. That's just pure nonsense. I don't care about the context, there's nothing in the world that can make that not sound ridiculous. It's one of those aspects that just takes you right out of the fantasy of Kamen Rider and reminds you how utterly dumb it can be. |
03-19-2014, 03:49 PM | #9784 |
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03-19-2014, 03:50 PM | #9785 |
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I hated Koyomi. She was just such a terrible actress, always looking like she was about to pout or throw some kind of minitantrum, though she never did. It's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of Mai, but since her Actress ALSO plays her helhiem doppelganger and SHE doesn't act that way, it's obviously intentional. (also, Mai is supposed to be younger, more naive, and just generally less mature)
Also, I never saw her move the plot, but I jumped ship when Beast showed up. And I didn't like koyomi's actress I just liked the way she brought out a bit of vulnerability in haruto And I honestly wish kaito hung around the gaim peeps more because he would totally deck Mai and tell her to suck it the hell up |
03-19-2014, 03:51 PM | #9786 |
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Also, didn't Kuuga have a Rider Kick that could destroy the planet?
Yeah, sorry, but you cannot kick a planet and destroy it. No ammount of fake science or ridiculous mythology can overcome the shear logistics of it. That's just pure nonsense. I don't care about the context, there's nothing in the world that can make that not sound ridiculous. It's one of those aspects that just takes you right out of the fantasy of Kamen Rider and reminds you how utterly dumb it can be. ahaha Last edited by Battlizer; 03-19-2014 at 03:53 PM.. |
03-19-2014, 03:52 PM | #9787 |
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Oh God, it's even stupider than I imagined.
It's not even like it explodes when he kicks, the explosion just comes from nowhere entirely. Also, sweet job Kuuga, you just killed countless civilians. Thumbs up! Quote:
It's called suspension of disbelief. It's the same way I can accept that a man can fly and have super speed, but not that he can juggle moons. Logistics still work within absurd concepts. You can visualise someone turning into a superhero. You can visualise them kicking and killing a monster. You cannot, in any way that does not look ridiculously implausible, visualise them destroying a planet by KICKING it. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 03-19-2014 at 03:56 PM.. |
03-19-2014, 03:53 PM | #9788 |
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Also, didn't Kuuga have a Rider Kick that could destroy the planet?
Yeah, sorry, but you cannot kick a planet and destroy it. No ammount of fake science or ridiculous mythology can overcome the shear logistics of it. That's just pure nonsense. I don't care about the context, there's nothing in the world that can make that not sound ridiculous. It's one of those aspects that just takes you right out of the fantasy of Kamen Rider and reminds you how utterly dumb it can be.
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03-19-2014, 03:55 PM | #9789 |
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It happens everywhere, and this just makes all the more sense, because unlike G1, Agito has that false sense of maturity to it I mentioned. ESPECIALLY the bit about Faiz. Faiz, and I can't say I've seen it myself, has always been the show I hear LEAST about, except maybe next to Blade. What I do hear is not always positive, so if that was all people had and then they went BACK to Agito, they would've been even MORE suseptable to it's superficial qualities. Combined with only ACCOUNTS on it's story, I cna easily see some people forming some sort of quasi-mythical status to it. Imagining it to be much better than it really was. Still without a yard stick to compare, the masses accepted it as the false icon it had been built up to be, because it's foriegn and different and if you don't like it you just don't GET it because it's from Japan.
And there's a reason why nobody talks about Faiz. It's a show that ends by burning off any goodwill it may have created and then practically kicking the viewer in the happy-sack on the way out. |
03-19-2014, 03:59 PM | #9790 |
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The area had been evacuated beforehand because Godai was afraid of what would happen when he used the Rising Mighty kick. And from this point onwards they always made it a point to lure enemies into secluded areas before using that finisher. The moment did lead to the police having second thoughts about their association with him, though, as well as some bad press.
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