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08-16-2021, 09:16 PM | #41 |
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This was the birth of the collectible belt gimmick. Gaia Memories, Core Medals, Eyecons, Rider Watches, Wonder Ride Books, they all started here (and many of them were also usable on upgraded Ganbaride cabinets - not sure how long that lasted, but I know it was at least up through Astro Switches).
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I have to admit it's the first time I'm hearing of this as a trend! I mean, some people starting with Decade, okay; every series is someone's first. But a lot of people starting with Decade? A bit surprising! Is it perhaps down to the much shorter then usual length of 31 episodes?
first time i'm like whaaaaaat eighth time i'm like cool i've done everything wrong as a tokusatsu fan Quote:
His catchphrase of daitai wakatta ("I get the gist of it", or whatever other translations you see) is apparently taken directly from Toshiki Inoue often saying much the same. I've always seen Tendou and Tsukasa as very similar protagonists, but it's been a little surreal finding out both their characters were in some small degree inspired by the same guy, and that guy is Inoue. It does explain a lot though!
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08-16-2021, 10:25 PM | #42 |
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- The place I know I want to start is by telling you something that will probably make Die like Tsukasa a whole lot more. His catchphrase of daitai wakatta ("I get the gist of it", or whatever other translations you see) is apparently taken directly from Toshiki Inoue often saying much the same. I've always seen Tendou and Tsukasa as very similar protagonists, but it's been a little surreal finding out both their characters were in some small degree inspired by the same guy, and that guy is Inoue. It does explain a lot though!
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08-16-2021, 10:37 PM | #43 |
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He doesn't have time for your details and demands! He's trying to make you feel something.
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08-17-2021, 08:11 AM | #44 |
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That's the tragedy of it. Tsukasa always excels at everything the World Of [insert Rider] needs him to do, but the thing he actually enjoys as a hobby, photography, he sucks at. Decade is a generalist, being a collection of 9 preceding Riders all with their own identities and dreams for the future and that's part of why Tsukasa feels so ostracized and rejected by the world. He can't have a dream for the future cause he doesn't even have a present or a past he can cling to. He's a passing through Kamen Rider, like a ghost who passes through his own life, without understanding his place or what he's supposed to do. That's why, unlike Zi-O which is a celebration of Kamen Rider, Decade is more like what connects Kamen Rider across spacetime, being the first major crossover in the Heisei Era and Tsukasa's adventure is also about finding out what Kamen Rider Decade means to him, separate from the legacy he's inheriting.
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And, saving multiple Earths are huge task, but I wanna remind that people who succeed doing that aren't necessarily more heroic (not that it's not heroic, but you saying it 'very' heroic which seems to elevate him higher than anyone due to bigger accomplishment), but they have much more power to do that. Quote:
Yeah, this and Gaim... I mean, they're doing different things? Nominally, they're both foreshadowing an epic final battle, but Gaim's is full of characters you haven't met yet. It's an intro that's about inevitability and tragedy: you're going to love these new Riders, and then they're going to try to murder each other for power.
Decade's intro is sort of that, with Decade being some apocalyptic figure, but it's really more about characters you already have an investment in getting slaughtered. It's not really about the mystery, it's about the stakes: this is an event bigger than all nine series put together. Quote:
Oh talking of Kamen Rides, something else really great about Tsukasa being very different from your typical main Rider in personality is that it means despite wearing the suits of all 9 past Heisei Riders? They still feel uniquely him, he brings his own personality to him and they feel super distinct from how they were previously played! It's just so neat to see suits like Hibiki and Blade played with such swagger to them
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Okay! We're finally here! Decade! Man, always so much to talk about...
- The place I know I want to start is by telling you something that will probably make Die like Tsukasa a whole lot more. His catchphrase of daitai wakatta ("I get the gist of it", or whatever other translations you see) is apparently taken directly from Toshiki Inoue often saying much the same. I've always seen Tendou and Tsukasa as very similar protagonists, but it's been a little surreal finding out both their characters were in some small degree inspired by the same guy, and that guy is Inoue. It does explain a lot though! No offense, this sounds like what Sh Ranger said in Kabuto thread regarding Hopper Brothers... "the type that never learns from his mistakes and is desperate for people to notice him even if it's bad publicity like being a loser and a joke", which is the type of character he hates the most (I wouldn't approve of this behavior either, as it's a trait in real life iirc possessed by numerous trolls or edgelords - of which the Hell Brothers qualify).
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08-17-2021, 08:25 AM | #45 |
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I think part of it may have been the Sentai it was partnered with. Remember, there was no Power Rangers that year, so quite a few people started watching Shinkenger as a replacement to Power Rangers, especially as it looked like there might be no further seasons. It made sense, if that got your interest, to also check out the Kamen Rider show airing with it.
However, I'd like to correct you on your claim of there being no Power Rangers in 2009. That was the year of RPM, a very popular season and the end of the Disney Era. Quote:
The place I know I want to start is by telling you something that will probably make Die like Tsukasa a whole lot more. His catchphrase of daitai wakatta ("I get the gist of it", or whatever other translations you see) is apparently taken directly from Toshiki Inoue often saying much the same.
EDIT: Ninja'ed by DreadBringer.
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08-17-2021, 08:50 AM | #46 |
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So I decided to drop by, since Decade was, to nobody's surprise, my first completed Rider season. The first one I watched would either go to the original's (1971) first episode, or Amazon's (1974) first half.
First off, some factors as to why Decade is probably one of the ones people usually start with being, is that it introduces the Kamen Riders (at least their suits and themes) to get people interested in watching those seasons, and since they're all alternate world versions of them, there's no risk of spoiling the past seasons to them. Second, it's that bridge between the Heisei Phase 1 style and Phase 2's robust and toyetic gimmick merchandise that the franchise leans more into, allowing people to see whether either style is the one they want to see. And third, of course, is the shorter season, meaning more people have time for it before deciding if their interested in seeing more of Kamen Rider. Now I'm guessing there are a fair number of people who might have felt conflicted with the way they perceive Decade, which probably makes some people wonder what's so special about Kamen Rider. The answer to some of those questions I can only say to that is, there's 50 years of shows to choose from afterwards, a lot of them with very different themes and stories of which surely one of them you're bound to enjoy. And then I watched Fourze and Wizard afterwards. Because I don't want to take too much of people's time here, I'll just lay down some of my experience with watching Decade for the first time here, then maybe post here and there later. Decade was, for lack of a better word, very different from what I was used to seeing at the time. First there was that opening sequence with the whole war going on before Decade defeats everyone. That scene blew me away at first, seeing so many cool things on screen just going ham, then seeing who was to be our main character just destroy everything and looking like a villain, all while wearing magenta (Yes, I said it). Then there was the opening itself, which for me, was how I started getting into Kamen Rider. I watched the original's opening first to see where the series started, then picked whichever one sounded cool, being the names, where I saw Wizard's and got hooked. When I was opting for Decade, which was one of the one's often recommended to newcomers, I was taken aback by how, for an anniversary season, the theme song sounded melancholic and the visuals filled with, what I assumed at the time, the Riders being villains. I still, strangely enough, love the route of having the heroes you've rooted for go against the new hero, and the scenes of them all standing ready to oppose Decade, with Natsume behind them. I just didn't know what to make of this show at first glance, and that's probably what made it so exciting for me. It wasn't like some of the Anime I'd been watching while I was getting into that, nor anything I normally watched, which brought me into this franchise and it's many wonderful series. I'll probably talk more about the shows in another post, since I don't usually like to go on for this long. But before I go, I'm going to leave this here. "It's time to D-D-D-D-DDDDDDD-Duel!" |
08-17-2021, 08:53 AM | #47 |
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In 2008 it was ranked 16th most common surname in Japan. Personally I say it is still one of the most common surnames around in Japan.
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08-17-2021, 09:08 AM | #48 |
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Tokusatsu staff and cast certainly seem like a pretty accurate sample of that. I guess that's what Inoue Forever really means.
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Now I'm guessing there are a fair number of people who might have felt conflicted with the way they perceive Decade, which probably makes some people wonder what's so special about Kamen Rider. The answer to some of those questions I can only say to that is, there's 50 years of shows to choose from afterwards, a lot of them with very different themes and stories of which surely one of them you're bound to enjoy. And then I watched Fourze and Wizard afterwards.
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08-17-2021, 11:46 AM | #50 |
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It's odd, because while Decade-the-character seems to have stuck around as one of the more popular Riders, Decade-the-series has always had a mixed reputation? Even in this thread, we've already had people calling it the best, the worst, and someone must consider it average, right? (Me. It's me.)
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