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08-31-2020, 09:06 AM | #1321 |
Suprise Gamma Future
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Interesting thread about the production of Zero One:
https://twitter.com/TomConstantines/...320880640?s=19 It explains why and where the season was rushed. I think people forgot just how early a lot of planning goes into place and how much sudden events can throw a wrench into things. Still, a show must adapt to viewers during the air date and we can see that with the handling of Gai. At the end of the day, despite its issues, it's clear the people behind the show truly care about it and did a lot of research. I think Zero One will be remembered fondly in the future.
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08-31-2020, 09:26 AM | #1322 |
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As I thought, turns out Izu’s death was rushed — it was a last minute decision to make things go where they wanted.
A lot of this sounds like the result of shoddy planning. Going from 8 episodes to 4 at the end sucks, sure, but did they seriously not have a plan for how it was generally supposed to go aside from the ending? Could they not have even tried to develop Aruto’s direction towards his fight with Horobi in the 41 episodes prior???
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08-31-2020, 09:45 AM | #1323 |
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A lot of this sounds like the result of shoddy planning. Going from 8 episodes to 4 at the end sucks, sure, but did they seriously not have a plan for how it was generally supposed to go aside from the ending? Could they not have even tried to develop Aruto’s direction towards his fight with Horobi in the 41 episodes prior???
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08-31-2020, 09:48 AM | #1324 |
Showa Girl
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If they thought they were going to have 41 episodes how on earth did they just write 34-41 as if it was normal?
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08-31-2020, 09:50 AM | #1325 |
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08-31-2020, 09:54 AM | #1326 |
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I mean given just the framing of Episode's 40 and 41 (I pair them together since they jump perfectly off of each other), with Aruto delivering the final decisive blow to Ark alongside Ikazuchi destroying the satellite that housed it, it definitely feels like it could have ended there and had Horobi decided to act rational and not get scared of "emotions" then we would have had probably a more solid-ish ending.
I mean also to be fair, we don't know how far in advance they can do rewrites for things and how much they could have changed to try and fit their narrative in the short amount of time. |
08-31-2020, 10:06 AM | #1327 |
NinninComic
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Personally, it won't change my opinion about Zero-One flaws.
I love zero-one but the flaws it has, to me, aren't the one due to Covid. The overall plot is very weak from the beginning. The starting plot point of the show, the incident at daybreak town, and what happened there could have been more thick and revelations happen mid show. But it was evacuated in the first arc real quick like "oh yeah that was us back then. period." amidst many things like the development of humagears having a heart through Ansatsu-chan singularity plot, the why is yaiba doing shady stuff plot, and of course MJ want humagears independent/destroy the humans (all of this without even mentioning patients of the week stuff). They should have spread that out. That's something a show like Build did right and that's why it's a very solid show IMO. The show was built (pun intended) on the Mars/Pandora Box/Sky wall thing as a basis and it was here in the background during all the length of the show, diluting revelations. It doesn't mean you can't reveal stuff early on. Build did it with BloodStark identity (edit : and even Katsuragi). But yeah. Zero one launched everything in our face in 15 episodes, and the script for the rest of the show was Aruto vs Gai and Aruto vs MJ. And that's absolutely not Covid's fault at all. Last edited by Omnikaiser; 08-31-2020 at 10:10 AM.. |
08-31-2020, 10:47 AM | #1328 |
take me to space
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I bet that they never planned to give Yaiba more to do from the beginning though. No matter what else has or will happen, that will be my bitter point number (zero-)one about this show, for sure.
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08-31-2020, 01:13 PM | #1329 |
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As usual no respect for female riders. Valkyrie better get an upgrade for a V-Cinema!!!!
Anyone here fighting for women's rights in KR? |
08-31-2020, 01:28 PM | #1330 |
take me to space
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It's less a fight and more like begging for the franchise to stop stepping on my skull. At least, that's how it feels to me sometimes! The saddest thing is that overall, even after everything, Valkyrie probably still got off better in how her show treats her than the likes of Poppy or Tsukiyomi etc.
I just want one of them to be like Mach or Snipe sometime. I don't need for like major upgrades in the latter half or to have entire plots centered on them, but just allowed to be cool and relevant during the whole show's run, maintaining their own internally generated motivations and whatnot. I guess Rider isn't quite ready for that though!! |
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