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12-06-2018, 06:37 PM | #15301 |
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Heck, Climax Deka is so worth putting off for years that even having watched it, I remember so little that I still feel like I never watched it.
It's so utterly inconsequential (to the point where it can't even fit in-continuity) that you're better off just skipping straight to putting off Final Countdown for years. Or just watching it. That one's actually pretty solid, is my point.
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12-06-2018, 06:45 PM | #15302 |
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I been watching faiz my god why have not watched I have loved it also faiz been my fave suit design maybe due to the shark theme motifs it went with.
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12-06-2018, 10:31 PM | #15303 |
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Oof, I'd heard it was bad, but you make it sound dire. Which almost makes me want to see it... more...
But I'd also like to see something Showa, considering I haven't yet watched anything pre-ZX at all. Or Black/Black-RX, unless you count the MMPR episodes with Masked Rider in them. Kinda wanna check out Super-1, or maybe X. Are either of those considered 'good', or should I try and power through from Ichigou? If you want to try Showa, I'd absolutely recommend Black. It's an incredibly good show and the suits and special effects hold up far better than anything earlier. If you want to dip your toe into the Showa era, Black is very accessible. Just don't watch it in a dark room if you have any kind of photosensitivity issues. X is also really good, but the last 7 episodes or so aren't subbed yet. As for Super-1... I'm just not a big fan of the Skyrider/Super-1 era. |
12-07-2018, 05:59 AM | #15304 |
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It's not awful, it's just very much what Fish Sandwich said: inconsequential. The best thing I can say for it is that it has an amusing guest appearance by Wataru that was clearly written by someone who only watched the first couple episodes of Kiva.
If you want to try Showa, I'd absolutely recommend Black. It's an incredibly good show and the suits and special effects hold up far better than anything earlier. If you want to dip your toe into the Showa era, Black is very accessible. Just don't watch it in a dark room if you have any kind of photosensitivity issues. X is also really good, but the last 7 episodes or so aren't subbed yet. As for Super-1... I'm just not a big fan of the Skyrider/Super-1 era.
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12-08-2018, 08:27 AM | #15305 |
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I just finished watching Agito and the last 15 episodes or so were really great. Too bad they moved too slowly for over half a season. Mana chan looks so much better grown up as Naomi chan on den-o.
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12-09-2018, 08:37 PM | #15306 |
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I have to start Kiva soon,...(been tempted to watch a Sentai though.)
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12-10-2018, 04:49 AM | #15307 |
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What, are you on some toku-watching deadline? Though with Kiva's split-timeline stuff, you could start as early or as late as you wish, and it'd probably be fitting.
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12-10-2018, 04:52 PM | #15308 |
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Finished Decade last night. It was interesting going into this one because it seems to have a very divisive reputation, seems like people either love it or hate it. Having now watched it myself, unfortunately I have to say I’m definitely not one of the people who loved it. There was almost nothing I liked about this show. Between the messy, nonsensical plot and overall poor character development, the best thing I can say about Decade is that I was really glad I only had to sit through 31 episodes of this one instead of the 45-48 of most other Rider shows.
My problems with Decade begin with the story, which at no point makes any kind of real sense or explains even the most basic facets of itself. Decade’s status as the Destroyer of Worlds is obviously a major plot point, but why is he considered that, where does that status even come from? There’s no indication whatsoever of why he’s this supposed world destroyer, and why do all these worlds even know who he is? Where is all of this coming from? Somehow Tsukasa also knows everything about many of the worlds they visit, but how does he know this stuff? And most of all, who the hell is Narutaki? He is one of the most perplexing and inexplicable characters I have ever seen, nothing about his existence makes any sense at all and goes absolutely nowhere. I figured surely it was building up to some big thing with him, but it just didn’t. You could actually remove him from the show entirely and almost nothing at all would change. These are just a few of the enormous amount of questions I have about the show. I’m perfectly fine with a show not answering everything and leaving stuff to interpretation, but that’s not what’s happening with Decade. It completely neglects crucial information to the story for no reason other than disastrously bad writing. And then of course there’s the “ending” if you want to call it that. It makes the Faiz ending look good in comparison, and that’s saying a lot. Decade doesn’t even have a real ending, it just abruptly stops right in the middle of a storyline and that’s it. From my understanding it eventually gets some semblance of a real ending in the movie with W later, but it really shouldn’t come to that. The lack of a cohesive conclusion is an extremely glaring and significant flaw. The characters don’t really fare any better than the plot. Most of the cast is flat, get virtually no development, and are almost entirely superfluous to the story. Natsumi is fine, and gets some decent material towards the end, which is more than almost anyone else gets. Yusuke is relevant for his story arc and becomes almost completely pointless after that for the remainder of the show. Once Kaito shows up (Completely out of nowhere) his whole treasure shtick gets old fast since it comprises his entire personality until he finally gets some much-needed development in his little arc, so he ends up definitely as the best of the supporting cast. Although I did find it absolutely hilarious how the thematic conclusion of his character development literally ends with “the real treasure was the friends we made along the way.” Overall the only character I found interesting was Tsukasa himself. At first he seems like another incarnation of Tendou, overly perfect and arrogant. And while he definitely has those traits, I found him much more likable than Tendou because he managed to pull this off in an endearing way and it was amusing the way the other characters would react with such exasperation towards his clear arrogance. He even gets some pretty good development near the end with the stuff about his flamboyant personality and attitude being a mask to cover his loneliness at not having his own world, and how Natsumi tries to help him learn that his friends can be his world to return to. I liked that stuff a lot but it comes way too late in the story and isn’t fully fleshed out, it’s like they had the right idea but couldn’t fully execute it. I feel like a lot of the problems with the show are because the story doesn’t exist to function on its own, it’s there just as a basic framework to facilitate what is intended to be the real draw of Decade, the fact that it’s a tribute to the previous shows that came before it. The big problem here is that it doesn’t even do that very well. The AR worlds are a bizarre concept that completely fell flat for me. If the past Riders are just going to be alternate versions of the ones we knew before and the worlds themselves don’t even always strongly resemble the ones each respective Rider is from, what’s the point? It just feels like empty fan service where the show is saying “hey look all the suits and sound effects from the previous shows are back isn’t this cool” but without the characters and settings that made those memorable in the first place, it loses all of its impact and feels like some weird knockoff. I understand that it can be very difficult to get previous actors back, and I certainly wouldn’t hold the show to such a high standard and expect that. But Zi-O so far has managed to pull off using the “real” Riders and their worlds while not getting every actor back, and while Zi-O isn’t perfect or anything, it’s already a vastly superior tribute than Decade. Going into it I really wanted to like Decade because I really like the general idea and theme, but it was just such a mess of a show I couldn’t really enjoy it at all. Tsukasa is a fun protagonist but he alone can’t support what is a mostly-bland cast. The plot had potential in theory with the concept of Decade traveling through previous Riders’ worlds, but since they’re not even the real Riders we came to know over so many past episodes, it ends up as just a shallow imitation of the real thing. In the end I think Decade is almost tied with Faiz for my least favorite Rider show I’ve seen, but I’ll give it the edge over Faiz because it had at least one character I liked and I only had to sit through 31 episodes. While I still have several Heisei shows left, I feel quite confident already stating that Decade is likely to end up in my bottom 3.
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12-10-2018, 06:39 PM | #15309 |
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Climax Deka: ... Wow. I've seen bad Kamen Rider films before, but this was a bad I haven't experienced outside of the SHT films. So many unanswered questions. So little plot. Such useless villains. It hurts me. And why are they policemen all of a sudden?
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12-10-2018, 07:55 PM | #15310 |
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