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04-27-2024, 06:01 AM | #1 |
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Three strangers appear before Houtaro and team in search of a mysterious superweapon.
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04-28-2024, 05:51 AM | #2 |
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Apparently, they had to scotch tape the Faiz Pointer to the leg for the scene where Legend Faiz runs to use the Crimson Smash.
And they should consider remaking the Eternal suit because the discoloration is horrible, which I understand is inevitable, but it's BAD.
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04-28-2024, 07:32 AM | #3 |
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Right off the bat, the narrator says that Hundred is the enemy from another world. It seemed like episode 32 marked a shift in direction of the story where the two opposing factions (represented by Houtarou and Clotho) are made to join forces to fight against a new threat from another world (Hundred). Episode 32 was probably only the appetizer before the appearance of the main course, which is the complete change of course (haha) of the story, from a story about alchemy into a story about invaders from parallel world.
In the conversation between Minato and Spanner @ 00:31, Spanner states that The Door of Darkness has been closed, so it's impossible for Glion to escape from it. Minato then states @ 00:40 that the occurrence of some kind of mysterious electromagnetic waves has been observed in the Ouroboros world, and since it happened Lachesis has been unable to access the gate to there. Spanner then concludes that this disturbance must be caused by the Gigist guy. Or is this disturbance was caused by Hundred invading Houtarou's world? I think this is a symptom of a retcon. Since when an entity that can control the Ouroboros world is able to create a portal to the multiverse? And since when the existence of an another another world has been explicitly or implicitly stated in the story in the first place? Since episode 32, apparently. Or perhaps since the KR Legend spin-off began, haha. I was half-joking when I hypothesized about the existence of an another another world a long time ago in a post in episode 2's thread here. As it turns out, that joke wasn't a joke after all. I stated that the multiverse trope is a shock factor and asspull generator here. Even when a story has never explicitly nor implicitly stated it, a lazy writer can casually shove it in to change the direction of the story according to his whim. A story never mentions nor hints about multiverse/parallel world, and suddenly it appears out of nowhere just because the lazy, hack writer needs to fundamentally change the story. What a very very very convenient narrative tool. I've just realized that this change of direction may have been planned all along. If this multiverse trope is what the writer of this episode and episode 32 (Hiroki Uchida) has in mind when he thinks of the word aLcHeMy, then I can safely conclude that he's a hack writer. He probably has never actually watched or read stories about alchemy. Perhaps in his mind, alchemy = the ability to change everything according to the whim of the writer = multiverse trope (and several other convenient narrative tools). This nonsensical, faulty reasoning is virtually the same reasoning used by Yuuya Takahashi in Geats. If it's true, then Gotchard is basically Uchida's version of Geats. If Uchida is the main or sole writer of this story then he'll transform Gotchard into Geats v2.0. No wonder Uchida has been using the memory manipulation trope merely as a tool to conveniently move the plot according to his whim (and perhaps also as a shock factor) as I stated here. No wonder the AU/AA as an organization feels so empty, hollow, and undeveloped. No wonder we never see other students at AA. No wonder even Houtarou and the other students at AA almost never perform alchemical experiments. No wonder there are only a handful of superficial, paper-thin tropes about alchemy in Gotchard's story. Alchemy in this story feels like an afterthought that is merely tacked on as novelty, not as the most fundamental internal logic. The writer, or worse, the writers of this show are seemingly not familiar with common tropes about alchemy, yet they attempt to write about it. The only thing I can conclude so far is that KR Gotchard is a story about alchemy, written by writers who are very likely not familiar with alchemy. I'm very sorry to come to this conclusion, but I can't unsee these facts creeping from all direction. No matter how much bullshit you use to cover up your incompetence, the quality of the product will ultimately reveal it. Clotho mentions @ 00:57 that Hundred is looking for the super-weapon, and it's not expected by the Gigist guy? And Atropos and Clotho talk to him like they're talking to a person they've just met, not to Glion, a person they've known since a very long time. So, who the frak is this Gigist guy? Is he an incarnation of Glion? Is he the uber-demon that Glion was hyping up (and was defeated by the Alchemist of Dawn 120 years ago)? Then what did Atropos mean when she stated that Glion's wish had finally come true in episode 32? Or what? Or is he just another form of plot convenience created by the writers? I've got a bad feeling about the Gigist guy. I think he could end up as Gifu v2.0, haha. He was supposed to be the ultimate of the ultimate of the ultimate evil threats, yet ended up as a colossal punching bag of a joke due to the writers' incompetence and screw up. Saigetsu (one of the new Hundred Trio) mentions that KR Gotchard (and KR Legend) was the one who defeated Gengetsu, one of the Hundred Four, in the KR Legend spin-off. So, Robin Furuya's character, which previously was called Boss of Hundred, is actually named Gengetsu. It seems like Hundred Four is inspired by The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse from the Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Bible. Mimei then mentions that time is of limited nature and they should use the fastest method, and Saigetsu proceeds to perfom a gesture of blocking the sun's ray (very likely an allusion to Kaguya/KR Legend) with his left hand, while proclaiming "to move the hands of the clock forward", an allusion to a full-scale invasion. Houtarou ponders @ 01:49 about how he feels like he already met the guys (Kasshines) before the events in episode 32. Does this mean that his memory of those events was wiped by someone? Who was that person and what was his stake in doing so? Well, I smell another potential plot convenience to justify why Houtarou has never mentioned the events in the KR Legend spin-off in the main storyline. "iT's NoT a SpIn-OfF! iT's NoT a NoN-cAnOn StOrY! hOuTaRoU oNlY fOrGeT aBoUt iT!" Yep, very convenient. Butler, aka Kajiki's doppelganger from KR Legend's world, then comes into the scene and states that Houtarou doesn't remember him (and everything in the KR Legend spin-off). A new title card then appears, and the text "Kamen Rider Gotchard VS Kamen Rider Legend" is written there. The sponsor spot features the new DX Legend Kamen Riser and its EX-labeled RCC's. I've got a sudden epiphany. Could it be that Nijigon's RCC's having EX label means that KR Legend will ultimately have a crucial role in creating Nijigon and or his RCC's? I mentioned here that EX label are usually reserved for DX trinkets for side contents such as films, crossover films, or spin-offs. If Nijigon's RCC's is also labeled EX, then they're probably initially planned for KR Legend spin off. If Nijigon's RCC's are already being released in the Ride Chemy Trading Card: Phase 04, then Nijigon is very likely used for KR Gotchard's final form (which usually appear between episode 38-40). If this hypothesis is true, then KR Gotchard's main storyline is completely infected by KR Legend spin-off. Another sign of retcon/asspull is when Butler gives an infodump to explain about the arrival of Hundred from his parallel world. Butler says that Hundred is a mysterious organization that has invaded (and perhaps also conquered) many parallel worlds. This is very likely a convenient setup to explain why Hundred generals can transform into several Riders from various worlds later in this episode. The weird thing is if Butler has already arrived at Houtarou's world, then why doesn't Kaguya just appear and settle the score with the Hundred Trio? Well, perhaps at that moment he's still vacationing in a world far far away, a million worlds away from Houtarou's, haha. Saigetsu can conveniently create a multiverse curtain (like Narutaki can and possibly so can Tsukasa Kadoya) which is now named Aurora Curtain to summon Kasshine troops from Zi-O's world. I bet all my net worth that he can also summon Ohma Zi-O, haha. I've got a hypothesis that Hundred is an organization created by people like Narutaki. From what he says @ 04:17 it seems like Hundred's strength will be transferred at once into a new world when the Aurora Curtain is completely open. This type of atrocious logic will inevitably create many logical inconsistencies in the story. It seems like Hiroki Uchida just doesn't get why KR Decade and KR Zi-O made very little sense. Let regular shows be regular shows. Let anniversary/crossover shows be anniversary/crossover shows. Never mix up the two, unless you're a hack writer who can only screw up old stories by hijacking their characters and can't actually write a good story from scratch. KR Gotchard and (God forbid) KR Geats are what you get when you hire any writer from KR Outsiders. Lachesis transforms into Valvarad by using the Madwheel RepliCC. At least the suit actor is a female one. They should also use a female suit actor for KR Dread, now that Yuya Nawata is suit acting as KR Legend. Kajiki's reaction @ 09:20 when he's seeing the weird events unfold is the same reaction I have when I watch these messy 2 episodes. Kajiki: "What the frak is actually going on?" Kajiki (re)learns Houtarou's identity as KR Gotchard @ 14:52 for the second time. Or the third time? I rarely use profanities, but when I see the scene @ 09:39 I yell "Fuck that!", haha. If Mimei/KR (ripoff) Glare can hijack all riders, not only Desire Driver users, then she should hijack Spanner and the others as well. Yeah, screw common sense. Clotho then comes in and attacks everyone, and actually knocking some sense into this mess of episode. Mimei is almost killed when she was defeated by KR Valvarad and L-Valvarad. Then casually out of no-frakking-where and without any reasoning comes KR Zein, and immediately proceeds to defeat and kill Mimei/KR (ripoff) Glare. So yeah, one of the Hundred Trio is killed unceremoniously in this very episode. And if Mimei as KR (ripoff) Glare can hijack other riders, then she should at least attempt to hijack KR Zein. Idiot! Haha. KR Zein looks nice. It's very unfortunate that he appears in and associated with KR Outsiders aka the crappiest of the crappiest of the crappiest side contents. KR Zein's appearance in this episode could be a setup for his confrontation later in episode 34 or 35 with KR Ark-One as Ark Malgam. The writer makes Ark-One appear just because it's a malice AI, so when it's combined with a Chemy (which is probably the Zero-One or Zero-Two Chemy), it will form the Ark Malgam. But who summons KR Zein anyway? Did one of the Hundred Trio summon him? Or perhaps KR Zein can also travel between parallel worlds? Ah, screw logic and common sense! Tasogare/KR (ripoff) Eternal is also killed unceremoniously in this episode by Houtarou. Great. One more to go. The fact that people are cheering at Houtarou when he was fighting Tasogare/KR (ripoff) Eternal kinda makes me cringe. It makes a fight looks like a spectator sport. It only makes a heroic Rider looks way less heroic. It turns out what Saigetsu meant when he said earlier that Hundred's strength will be transferred into a new world when the Aurora Curtain is completely open is that it will form a portal to send in a huge number of Dai Mazine units. Yet, in a typical Yuuya-ism-esque way of asspull, instead of Dai Mazine units, it's Kaguya/KR Legend who descends from the sky, like Jesus descending from heaven, haha. The Dai Mazine units are simply annihilated by KR Legend's gorgeousness and brilliance, haha. As usual, KR Legend then performs the compulsory form changes just because, even when his opponent are merely lowly Kasshine mooks. And when Saigetsu/KR (ripoff) Dark Kiva performs the World End finisher as a last ditch effort, yet another typical Yuuya-ism-esque asspull conveniently appears when commanded by KR Legend: The new DX Legend Kamen Riser. It knocks Saigetsu/KR (ripoff) Dark Kiva out of his flight path, and then arrives at KR Legend's hand to transform him into KR Legendary Legend during the end credit. What a mess of an episode. The best things that happen in this episode are the awesome designs of KR Legend, KR Legendary Legend & KR Zein, and the actors performances during the signature Sakamoto's untransformed fight scenes. Next week: The reprise of the Zukyumpire episodes, haha. Now that Miimei and Tasogare are dead, and the majority of Hundred's Dai Mazine units and Kasshine troops are single-handedly wiped out by Kaguya/KR Legend, what's Saigetsu gonna do? Perhaps this is the reason why he will summon KR Ark-One and turn him into the Ark Malgam in episode 34 or 35. The full appearance of KR Legendary Legend who can transform into the final forms of Heisei & Reiwa titular riders. I've got the feeling that Kaguya/KR Legend could ultimately be Tsukasa Kadoya/KR Decade's permanent replacement, since Masahiro Inoue (Tsukasa's actor) is reported to have moved on to other projects. That's why the writers expand on the Aurora Curtain and other crapola in the KR Legend spin-off and in episodes 32-33. It seems like Bandai doesn't have the patience to wait until the airing of the next anniversary series in 2028. Well, at least KR Legend and KR Legendary Legend do look much, much better than any of KR Decade's forms. KR Legend is basically KR Decade when it's properly designed, haha. I predicted here that this Legend "arc" doesn't end in episode 33. So, the sheeples that label episodes 32-33 as merely filler crossover episodes that can't infect and negatively impact the main storyline are proven wrong. My prediction for the best case scenario is that it will end in episode 34 or 35, after the rumored appearance of the Ark Malgam. The worst case scenario is of course when it lasts until the debut of KR Gotchard's final form in episode 38-40. If that's indeed the case, then Gotchard's story is FUBAR. |
04-29-2024, 10:57 AM | #4 |
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Man, what a blast of an episode.
Just pure fun. The fights are really well choreographed, the themes and story beats of the episode clearly work, and I understand what both Gotchard and the franchise as a whole are, and you can feel the joy that was used in this episode. If this is what it means to be "infected with the outsider virus", inject it in every show. Give me more of this. Great episode!
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04-30-2024, 09:14 AM | #5 |
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I’m very confused. This feels more like part of a movie than a regular episode of Gotchard. I have no idea who these villains are, who these new Riders are, or why any of this is happening. Always fun to see the steadily decaying OG Heisei suits, though.
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04-30-2024, 09:32 AM | #6 |
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It's so weird that Toei give all these forms and a Final Form to some random Rider from some random world. Honestly, this Kaguya guy is checking all the boxes for a Mary Sue, he just shows up at the end, reveals that he solved the problem offscreen and proceeds to kick Hundred a**. Which would be a lot more forgivable if he was actually an important character in this narrative. The title isn't lying that he's 100 years too early.
Fortunately, the important characters do get some attention for most of the episode. Fire Gotchard AntWrestler finally makes his debut. ValvaLachesis uses Repli Madwheel to fight alongside ValvaRider, which I guess we can call the ValvaraDuo. Clotho Regis shows off her strength. I enjoyed watching those cool fight scenes and there's barely enough interactions scattered throughout to remind about recent developments. But I sure hope this show doesn't just become Kamen Rider Legend featuring Gotchard for the remainder of this arc. Quote:
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Houtarou ponders @ 01:49 about how he feels like he already met the guys (Kasshines) before the events in episode 32. Does this mean that his memory of those events was wiped by someone? Who was that person and what was his stake in doing so? Well, I smell another potential plot convenience to justify why Houtarou has never mentioned the events in the KR Legend spin-off in the main storyline. "iT's NoT a SpIn-OfF! iT's NoT a NoN-cAnOn StOrY! hOuTaRoU oNlY fOrGeT aBoUt iT!" Yep, very convenient.
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I rarely use profanities, but when I see the scene @ 09:39 I yell "Fuck that!", haha. If Mimei/KR (ripoff) Glare can hijack all riders, not only Desire Driver users, then she should hijack Spanner and the others as well. Yeah, screw common sense. Clotho then comes in and attacks everyone, and actually knocking some sense into this mess of episode.
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05-02-2024, 04:09 PM | #7 |
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It's so weird that Toei give all these forms and a Final Form to some random Rider from some random world. Honestly, this Kaguya guy is checking all the boxes for a Mary Sue, he just shows up at the end, reveals that he solved the problem offscreen and proceeds to kick Hundred a**. Which would be a lot more forgivable if he was actually an important character in this narrative. The title isn't lying that he's 100 years too early.
On second thought, introducing a Gary Stu is not that bad. It's the blatant asspulls that made me chuckle several times. A Gary Stu is already quite a logic-breaking character, and the writer also added several asspulls? Great, Mr. Uchida! :V It's a good recipe for a total mess of a story. Quote:
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I'm talking about the parallel world trope in Gotchard that suddenly appeared. There was nothing in the story prior to episode 32 that hinted about it, except the KR Legend spin-off which viewers thought was just another non-canon side contents. There's nothing in the story that can justify its existence. The parallel world trope was first used in Decade to facilitate the crossover with the previous series for the anniversary theme. It's a trick which secrets have already been revealed. Viewers would already be able to guess the direction of the story when a parallel world trope is involved, especially in the KR franchise. So, if it's used again in a new story, then that story will lose its magic. Crossover/mashup stories also create the risk of confusing your audience if mixed up with the main storylines. It will dilute the internal logic of all the stories involved. The risk of making your audience confused is my main point in this post. The parallel world trope is basically the easiest and most convenient trope that a writer can use to hijack the characters from other stories. It's basically what I had in mind since I was a kid, haha. Or, if you want to handle it in the most rough manner possible, then you should do a Yuuya: Simply hijack three main Riders from Ryuki and just insert them into your story without any explanation whatsoever, not even via the parallel world trope. Quote:
Remember, episodes 32-34 were written by Hiroki Uchida, one of the writers from KR Outsiders. I smell that Hiroki Uchida's writing philosophy is similar to Yuuya Takahashi's: Anything that can be made convoluted, will be made convoluted. |
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Man, what a blast of an episode.
Just pure fun. The fights are really well choreographed, the themes and story beats of the episode clearly work, and I understand what both Gotchard and the franchise as a whole are, and you can feel the joy that was used in this episode. If this is what it means to be "infected with the outsider virus", inject it in every show. Give me more of this. Great episode! Let's turn every season into an anniversary season like Decade and Zi-O! :V Let's stop making regular seasons altogether! :V From now on, let's just make crossover seasons! :V Let's fill every Kamen Rider season with random crossover episodes that break the main story! :V Let's turn every season into a nonsensical, crappy mashup like KR Outsiders! :V Fuck plot! Fuck good writing! Fuck quality! Fuck logic, rationality, and common sense! Fuck meaning! :V All I want to see on the screen is a chaotic, jumbled mess of episodes to satiate my 10-second attention span! :V Long live Kamen Rider! See you all in 2071. :V |
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Let's turn every season into an anniversary season like Decade and Zi-O! :V Let's stop making regular seasons altogether! :V From now on, let's just make crossover seasons! :V Let's fill every Kamen Rider season with random crossover episodes that break the main story! :V Let's turn every season into a nonsensical, crappy mashup like KR Outsiders! :V Fuck plot! Fuck good writing! Fuck quality! Fuck logic, rationality, and common sense! Fuck meaning! :V All I want to see on the screen is a chaotic, jumbled mess of episodes to satiate my 10-second attention span! :V Long live Kamen Rider! See you all in 2071. :V
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05-03-2024, 08:51 AM | #10 |
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Haha. That was what I thought too. He's Gary Stu, a male Mary Sue. Butler is basically the writer's onscreen persona who introduces Kaguya as a Gary Stu.
On second thought, introducing a Gary Stu is not that bad. It's the blatant asspulls that made me chuckle several times. A Gary Stu is already quite a logic-breaking character, and the writer also added several asspulls? Great, Mr. Uchida! :V It's a good recipe for a total mess of a story. Quote:
Time travel trope was quite consistent in Den-O, where the series and solo films were quite consistent with the internal logic. The illusion of it being both canon and non-canon at the same time was because the parallel world trope was involved in the Decade & Den-O collab film.
I'm talking about the parallel world trope in Gotchard that suddenly appeared. There was nothing in the story prior to episode 32 that hinted about it, except the KR Legend spin-off which viewers thought was just another non-canon side contents. There's nothing in the story that can justify its existence. Houtarou vaguely remembering the events of the Legend special reminds me of how Tsukasa's photos always come out blurry, which is the irony that Tsukasa's hobby also happens to be the only thing that he admits he sucks at doing. Houtarou doesn't belong to that world, so his memory of it is like those photos. We can also see that Shinji, a regular human, at least has short-term memory of non-canon experience, which is enough to punch Odin. Quote:
Congrats on your 200th post anyway.
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