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05-03-2013, 06:04 AM | #101 |
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05-03-2013, 06:08 AM | #102 |
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He's number 2 Or 3 if I choose to count Rio
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05-03-2013, 06:11 AM | #103 |
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You british number things weird. One comes before Two, so Brajira would come first.
... I just thought of something and became instantly sad. Going by how assbackwards Nick does their seasons.. We aren't getting an American Kyoyuger until 2017. W T F Last edited by Sentai; 05-03-2013 at 06:15 AM.. |
05-03-2013, 07:49 AM | #104 |
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I was about to ask the same thing. Warz wasn't a bad villain, certainly no where near the laziness of his father, but he was nothing more than a spoiled brat. I didn't hate him, but I didn't find him to be anywhere near a good villain. Basco was the best villain in Gokaiger. Gashu Skull, Jin, Rio, Mele, AbareKiller, Jeanne, Rijewel, Yugande, Zylpheeza, Dr Kempu, and Radiguet are great villains. Warz was just an average villain like those found in Go-On through Gosei.
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05-03-2013, 09:20 AM | #105 |
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So wait I have no soul because Canderila is useless and I admit it? ]
I'm not a weeaboo so I don't automatically give something a free pass because an attractive Japanese woman is singing a quirky song. I rate the characters I enjoy on their actual worth to the story, what they have achieved, how they have grown etc etc and so far Canderila has been a spare part that seems only to exist to grate my nerves, rather than provide the Kyoryuger with any threat or character growth. Much like most of the villains in this series. And if this is supposed to be a comedy series...and she is supposed to be funny...I'm not laughing. A low production Japanese pop song isn't my idea of comedy, unless I am laughing at her for how terrible it is, which I can't do because the song is too busy make me feel nauseous. |
05-03-2013, 10:08 AM | #106 |
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Anyone who loves Candelila and Warz Gill is fine by me!
Not in the sense that he did things right and was exceptionally evil and a huge threat, but he was epic entertainment. I loved him in every episode, his tantrums amused me, him giving everyone a cold made me laugh and everyone I was watching nearly died when he fainted because his plan failed and was unconscious for the next episode. Entertainment is very important and Gokaiger already had its hardcore villains in Damarasu, Basco and Barizorg and then eventually Achidos Gill and his company (and I loved them for different reasons). Warz Gill was perfect for the role he had and I absolutely loved him. Quote:
So wait I have no soul because Canderila is useless and I admit it? ]
I'm not a weeaboo so I don't automatically give something a free pass because an attractive Japanese woman is singing a quirky song. I rate the characters I enjoy on their actual worth to the story, what they have achieved, how they have grown etc etc and so far Canderila has been a spare part that seems only to exist to grate my nerves, rather than provide the Kyoryuger with any threat or character growth. Much like most of the villains in this series. And if this is supposed to be a comedy series...and she is supposed to be funny...I'm not laughing. A low production Japanese pop song isn't my idea of comedy, unless I am laughing at her for how terrible it is, which I can't do because the song is too busy make me feel nauseous. And her song wasn't great because it was good, it was great because it was funny. Did you miss the lyrics? She was singing about destroying humanity in a happy-go-lucky way as fanboys squealed at her. That's funny! Did you hate Bandora too? She had a comedy song about destroying children which was equally awesome. Sometimes a show doesn't need a group of boring, oh-so-evil, oh-so-intimidating, oh-so-competent villains, it needs some comedy and fun to bring to the ensemble. Warz Gill and Candelila and, hell, even Bandora some of the time, are perfect for this. I love them dearly. Kyoryuger, Gokaiger and Zyuranger are examples were these characters really work with the rest of the show, I can see how comedic ensemble villains couldn't work in Shinkenger, but that's why it didn't have them. |
05-03-2013, 10:45 AM | #107 |
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Woah, calling people weaboos is a bit jerky and came out of nowhere, especially when I was joking about the no souls thing. Candelila is, just like Warz Gill, pure awesome entertainment value. She's fun, quirky and unique and her schemes are hilarious. Her interactions with all the other characters are funny and she's just a really fun character to have around. If you want hardcore villains see Dogold and Chaos, but she is perfect for her role.
And her song wasn't great because it was good, it was great because it was funny. Did you miss the lyrics? She was singing about destroying humanity in a happy-go-lucky way as fanboys squealed at her. That's funny! Did you hate Bandora too? She had a comedy song about destroying children which was equally awesome. Sometimes a show doesn't need a group of boring, oh-so-evil, oh-so-intimidating, oh-so-competent villains, it needs some comedy and fun to bring to the ensemble. Warz Gill and Candelila and, hell, even Bandora some of the time, are perfect for this. I love them dearly. Kyoryuger, Gokaiger and Zyuranger are examples were these characters really work with the rest of the show, I can see how comedic ensemble villains couldn't work in Shinkenger, but that's why it didn't have them. I guess if you find her funny, power to you, but I really don't find Kyoryuger's sense of humour funny in general, I find it juvenile at best. And Candelira is the embodiment of that, more a nuisance than a character. At least for me. I guess that is why I shouldn't be watching this show, but I really enjoyed the opening few episodes which established the characters, I loved Cyan. I just hated it when the show descended into fart jokes and other such humour on that level. I love comedy but this isn't comedy, this is dribbling on the carpet. |
05-03-2013, 11:13 AM | #108 |
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I thought the fart jokes were stupid too, but I don't see anything really juvenile about the rest of the show. Sure, it knows its target audience, but it is still mature enough and entertaining to be enjoyed by all. I love my serious Sentai as much as anybody else, but having a show that's more about fun then edge is nice to have every couple of seasons, in my opinion.
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05-03-2013, 11:16 AM | #109 |
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I thought the fart jokes were stupid too, but I don't see anything really juvenile about the rest of the show. Sure, it knows its target audience, but it is still mature enough and entertaining to be enjoyed by all. I love my serious Sentai as much as anybody else, but having a show that's more about fun then edge is nice to have every couple of seasons, in my opinion.
I find nothing fun in a bunch of incompetent generals that have so far, minus Chaos, shown to be considerably weaker than the Kyoryuger despite them not even having their first power ups yet. I see no fun in a series with zero drama or tension because it wants to be as big a gag as physically possible. This is exactly the same problem I had with Power Rangers Ninja Storm. |
05-03-2013, 11:25 AM | #110 |
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Ninja Storm also had unlikeable characters, which Kyoryuger thankfully does not.
I understand why you don't like Kyoryuger for your reasons, but I think you're being a little harsh while doing it. |
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