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The sad thing about Ginga is that you probably could have completely skipped the show and jumped straight to S without missing a thing outside of the main character's origin story. Only two characters from Ginga return as cast members in S and the others are limited only to guest star roles.
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08-13-2017, 10:41 AM | #903 |
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08-13-2017, 05:46 PM | #904 |
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The sad thing about Ginga is that you probably could have completely skipped the show and jumped straight to S without missing a thing outside of the main character's origin story. Only two characters from Ginga return as cast members in S and the others are limited only to guest star roles.
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08-13-2017, 11:03 PM | #905 |
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So, confession time! Or at least this feels like a confession given the awkward timing of me getting around to this (Hi Dr Kain!). I totally adore Ultraman Ginga. There's a lot of reasons for that, like the more meta stuff of it being the show that got me properly interested in Ultraman to begin with, or the design of Ginga himself being a favorite of mine (it's those glowy blue bits~), but I honestly love the show itself too, flaws and all. Sure, it may be the unnecessary answer to the unnecessary question of "What if we tried making Kamen Rider Fourze, but it's an Ultraman show, nobody can act, and the whole thing has a budget that makes old Doctor Who episodes look like major Hollywood productions?", but dang it, it just did it all with so much heart I can't stay mad at it. Ginga is a show you absolutely have to meet halfway to enjoy, but meeting it halfway is absolutely worth it as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway, the point I'm getting around to here is that I haven't watched more than a couple episodes of Ginga S and have decided to rectify that. However, after a bit of indecision I went ahead and rewatched regular Ginga first. Partly because I wanted to see if it still holds up (to me I mean), and partly because I wanted to see if Crunchyroll's subs for it are as bad as the couple of bits of them I watched when they first added it. We'll get back to that last bit in a second, but suffice it to say based on the first paragraph of this post, my thoughts on Ginga haven't changed much. The first half is great, and the second half is... better than I remember actually, but still very odd and nowhere near as sharp as the first couple episodes. The tone is kind of all over the place, for one thing, but, especially given certain plot developments, it also feels like the budget was even more stretched than it already was? Fortunately the finale is great and really leaves the show on a high note. About those Crunchyroll subs though. They're awwwwwwwwwwwwfulllllllllllllllllll. I'm not just being facetious when I say I've seen TV-Nihon translations that are better than this. I don't know what the deal is either given that the subs we've been getting for X, Orb, and Geed range from fine to good. It's like the backlog Ultraman shows Crunchyroll has were pumped out over a weekend or something. It's absolutely insane. Basically every line is wrong in ways that range from subtle to glaring. For one thing, they've systematically sucked out every last bit of character from the dialogue, and given that Ginga's biggest strength is that aforementioned heart, it's kind of a problem if the show feels completely heartless and devoid of life. There's also the usual weird things like refusing ever say stuff like "an Ultraman" or "Ultramen" even when the result is rather clunky. That might just be a branding thing though so I'm not too angry about it. What does make me angry, more than any of that relatively subjective stuff, are all the outright mistakes. Sentences written so awkwardly they barely make sense, outright mistranslations, and just plain bizarre inconsistencies like being unable to decide if Taro has "Ultra Telekinesis" or "Ultra Psychokinesis". Not to mention the irrational fear the translator(s) seemed to have of exclamation points and contractions. The Spark Dolls Theater segments do better in this regard, but then they also use the word "moe" in there once like it's a real word. I mean, I know what it means, and I'm sure most of Crunchyroll's audience knows what it means, but you can't just assume this crap! Is this a translation or not?! And why aren't the episode previews translated? None of this makes any sense! Like, guys, I'm sorry I'm so hung up on this but you gotta understand. I thought replacing Legend of Galaxy as the opening was going to be my biggest issue here. Ginga is a show that already has the odds stacked against it, so the thought of people getting exposed to it through this half-baked mess of a translation is genuinely depressing to me. At least with the initial shock out of the way, I should be able to enjoy Ginga S without getting so frustrated I want to punch a wall.
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08-13-2017, 11:37 PM | #906 |
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So, confession time! Or at least this feels like a confession given the awkward timing of me getting around to this (Hi Dr Kain!). I totally adore Ultraman Ginga. There's a lot of reasons for that, like the more meta stuff of it being the show that got me properly interested in Ultraman to begin with, or the design of Ginga himself being a favorite of mine (it's those glowy blue bits~), but I honestly love the show itself too, flaws and all. Sure, it may be the unnecessary answer to the unnecessary question of "What if we tried making Kamen Rider Fourze, but it's an Ultraman show, nobody can act, and the whole thing has a budget that makes old Doctor Who episodes look like major Hollywood productions?", but dang it, it just did it all with so much heart I can't stay mad at it. Ginga is a show you absolutely have to meet halfway to enjoy, but meeting it halfway is absolutely worth it as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway, the point I'm getting around to here is that I haven't watched more than a couple episodes of Ginga S and have decided to rectify that. However, after a bit of indecision I went ahead and rewatched regular Ginga first. Partly because I wanted to see if it still holds up (to me I mean), and partly because I wanted to see if Crunchyroll's subs for it are as bad as the couple of bits of them I watched when they first added it. We'll get back to that last bit in a second, but suffice it to say based on the first paragraph of this post, my thoughts on Ginga haven't changed much. The first half is great, and the second half is... better than I remember actually, but still very odd and nowhere near as sharp as the first couple episodes. The tone is kind of all over the place, for one thing, but, especially given certain plot developments, it also feels like the budget was even more stretched than it already was? Fortunately the finale is great and really leaves the show on a high note. About those Crunchyroll subs though. They're awwwwwwwwwwwwfulllllllllllllllllll. I'm not just being facetious when I say I've seen TV-Nihon translations that are better than this. I don't know what the deal is either given that the subs we've been getting for X, Orb, and Geed range from fine to good. It's like the backlog Ultraman shows Crunchyroll has were pumped out over a weekend or something. It's absolutely insane. Basically every line is wrong in ways that range from subtle to glaring. For one thing, they've systematically sucked out every last bit of character from the dialogue, and given that Ginga's biggest strength is that aforementioned heart, it's kind of a problem if the show feels completely heartless and devoid of life. There's also the usual weird things like refusing ever say stuff like "an Ultraman" or "Ultramen" even when the result is rather clunky. That might just be a branding thing though so I'm not too angry about it. What does make me angry, more than any of that relatively subjective stuff, are all the outright mistakes. Sentences written so awkwardly they barely make sense, outright mistranslations, and just plain bizarre inconsistencies like being unable to decide if Taro has "Ultra Telekinesis" or "Ultra Psychokinesis". Not to mention the irrational fear the translator(s) seemed to have of exclamation points and contractions. The Spark Dolls Theater segments do better in this regard, but then they also use the word "moe" in there once like it's a real word. I mean, I know what it means, and I'm sure most of Crunchyroll's audience knows what it means, but you can't just assume this crap! Is this a translation or not?! And why aren't the episode previews translated? None of this makes any sense! Like, guys, I'm sorry I'm so hung up on this but you gotta understand. I thought replacing Legend of Galaxy as the opening was going to be my biggest issue here. Ginga is a show that already has the odds stacked against it, so the thought of people getting exposed to it through this half-baked mess of a translation is genuinely depressing to me. At least with the initial shock out of the way, I should be able to enjoy Ginga S without getting so frustrated I want to punch a wall. It was also my first Ultraman show, which I watched with Tv-Nihon's subs, and, while it didn't exactly wow me even then, I might not have cared enough to watch Orb, the show that made me an Ultraman fan and made me actually interested in watching the rest of the series, had I not see Ginga first so its a win in my book. Besides, I hope we can all agree that Ginga is one of the best designed Ultras in the entire franchise. Those lines, his blue Zenshin Crystals that change colors based on attacks, why is blue so rarely used as the primary color for non-sentai-esque tokusatsu heroes... Its a shame about Crunchyroll's subs though. I've watched all of the Heisei Ultras they have on their site and, while I can't for how accurate the translations are, the overall quality of them seems to vary quite greatly depending on the show. |
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So first up, we finished season 1 of Ginga today. Episode 8 (really ep 7, but Crunchyroll has the movie as ep 7) was hands down both the worst and best episode of the season. How is that even possible? Well it is the worst because half of it was a god damn clipshow. Whomever thought it was a good idea to make the SEVENTH episode to be a clip show, was friggin retarded. It's not like the show has had months of development to even do a clip show. On the other hand, it is the best because the second half was hands down the most fun I had in the entire season. The fighting game bits were hilarious and watching the two monsters bro fist each other had me laughing immensely. I really did think I was watching a video to Primal Rage.
After that, the garbage just kept on coming. Oh, was the principal being the villain supposed to be a plot twist? If so, then it failed as I saw that coming light years away. I did like the designs of Black Ultra Seven and Black Ultraman though. Or is it Ultraman Dark and Ultra Seven Dark? They seemed to have changed their names between episodes. The acting never got better, the camera work remained subpar at best, and everything looked so cheap. Also, for wanting to be an idol, Helium Girl can not hold a tune for jack. The whole thing was so stupid and then suddenly all of these people show up at the end without any rhyme or reason, but they apparentely live in the area. There was nothing in any of this show to indicate this school was even remotely close to a town, village, or city. Even the final battle was lame. Second worst Ultraman series ever! (Ultra Seven X is still the worst). Now with that said, we also watched the first four episodes to its second season and wow, this show has a budget. They still need to work on their mics as it sounds like the actors are either speaking way too loud into them or they are way too close to them, but other than that, I have no complaints. The cast seems likable, Victory brings in an interesting dynamic, the fights have been pretty well choreographed, and I now wish my King Joe Figuart came with an interchangeable arm with that gun arm. The miniatures look good too. Why couldn't this be the show we got instead? The first season was an utter waste of time and money. I mean, people got paid to write that dogshit and they had to pay those people to "act." The only thing that is bugging me right now is that princess of the underworld looks so damn familiar, but when I looked up her credits, the only thing listed I have seen is Sky High. I'm pretty sure I have seen her somewhere else before. Then again, the same went for the girl that transformed into Pandan in the first season, so maybe I'm just being racist there. :-) I am also loving at how many Ultra Seven characters we have here. Android Zero One, her boss, King Joe, Eleking, and a Guts alien showing up has been pretty awesome so far. Oh, and Ginga's trident he used in the first two episodes rocked. I hope I get to see him use it again. Last edited by Dr Kain; 08-14-2017 at 12:27 AM.. |
08-14-2017, 12:42 AM | #908 |
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So first up, we finished season 1 of Ginga today. Episode 8 (really ep 7, but Crunchyroll has the movie as ep 7) was hands down both the worst and best episode of the season. How is that even possible? Well it is the worst because half of it was a god damn clipshow. Whomever thought it was a good idea to make the SEVENTH episode to be a clip show, was friggin retarded. It's not like the show has had months of development to even do a clip show. On the other hand, it is the best because the second half was hands down the most fun I had in the entire season. The fighting game bits were hilarious and watching the two monsters bro fist each other had me laughing immensely. I really did think I was watching a video to Primal Rage.
After that, the garbage just kept on coming. Oh, was the principal being the villain supposed to be a plot twist? If so, then it failed as I saw that coming light years away. I did like the designs of Black Ultra Seven and Black Ultraman though. Or is it Ultraman Dark and Ultra Seven Dark? They seemed to have changed their names between episodes. The acting never got better, the camera work remained subpar at best, and everything looked so cheap. Also, for wanting to be an idol, Helium Girl can not hold a tune for jack. The whole thing was so stupid and then suddenly all of these people show up at the end without any rhyme or reason, but they apparentely live in the area. There was nothing in any of this show to indicate this school was even remotely close to a town, village, or city. Even the final battle was lame. Second worst Ultraman series ever! (Ultra Seven X is still the worst). Now with that said, we also watched the first four episodes to its second season and wow, this show has a budget. They still need to work on their mics as it sounds like the actors are either speaking way too loud into them or they are way too close to them, but other than that, I have no complaints. The cast seems likable, Victory brings in an interesting dynamic, the fights have been pretty well choreographed, and I now wish my King Joe Figuart came with an interchangeable arm with that gun arm. The miniatures look good too. Why couldn't this be the show we got instead? The first season was an utter waste of time and money. I mean, people got paid to write that dogshit and they had to pay those people to "act." The only thing that is bugging me right now is that princess of the underworld looks so damn familiar, but when I looked up her credits, the only thing listed I have seen is Sky High. I'm pretty sure I have seen her somewhere else before. Then again, the same went for the girl that transformed into Pandan in the first season, so maybe I'm just being racist there. :-) I am also loving at how many Ultra Seven characters we have here. Android Zero One, her boss, King Joe, Eleking, and a Guts alien showing up has been pretty awesome so far. Oh, and Ginga's trident he used in the first two episodes rocked. I hope I get to see him use it again. |
08-14-2017, 10:08 AM | #909 |
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They had a several month break between episodes? What madness is this? Since when does Japan put a show on for 6 episodes and then go on break?
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08-14-2017, 10:36 AM | #910 |
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I figure they wanted to spread the limited episode count over a longer period to keep Ginga "relevant" longer. Ginga S did the same thing, if I'm remembering right. Keep in mind both shows aired as part of Ultraman Retsuden (as did X), so in a technical sense it never went off the air.
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