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12-04-2019, 10:18 AM | #231 |
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This hilariously out-of-nowhere line was, in fact, foreshadowing who would ultimately kill Kusaka.
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12-05-2019, 06:31 AM | #232 |
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I just realised something. In a lot of henshin shows, if not all of them, the user gets knocked out of their transformation when they are low on health. Granted, I can let it slide for henshin heroes who utilise mystical energy sources (like magic or supernatural power) or energy sources linked to their health.
But the more tech-based heroes? Uh, what? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Like, they're low on health so the armor around them is MORE important? Let's say Kamen Rider Fourze or one of the Metal Heroes is fighting a battle in outer space and is critically injured (for some reason). Following the rules, their transformations would be cancelled 'to protect them', causing them to suffocate in the cold vacuum of space. Yikes. So all in all, I have realised something: the whole 'cancel the transformation to protect the user from further harm' thing is stupid (for tech-based heroes anyway). Sorry for forcefully putting weights on everyone's suspension of disbelief, but it's just something that was bugging me. |
12-05-2019, 08:52 AM | #233 |
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Technology can get overpowered, especially if said tech is directly linked to their spirit or life-force to begin with. It's really not a big stretch.
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12-05-2019, 10:35 AM | #234 |
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I just realised something. In a lot of henshin shows, if not all of them, the user gets knocked out of their transformation when they are low on health. Granted, I can let it slide for henshin heroes who utilise mystical energy sources (like magic or supernatural power) or energy sources linked to their health.
But the more tech-based heroes? Uh, what? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Like, they're low on health so the armor around them is MORE important? Let's say Kamen Rider Fourze or one of the Metal Heroes is fighting a battle in outer space and is critically injured (for some reason). Following the rules, their transformations would be cancelled 'to protect them', causing them to suffocate in the cold vacuum of space. Yikes. So all in all, I have realised something: the whole 'cancel the transformation to protect the user from further harm' thing is stupid (for tech-based heroes anyway). Sorry for forcefully putting weights on everyone's suspension of disbelief, but it's just something that was bugging me.
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12-05-2019, 11:50 AM | #235 |
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12-05-2019, 04:12 PM | #236 |
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I just realised something. In a lot of henshin shows, if not all of them, the user gets knocked out of their transformation when they are low on health. Granted, I can let it slide for henshin heroes who utilise mystical energy sources (like magic or supernatural power) or energy sources linked to their health.
But the more tech-based heroes? Uh, what? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Like, they're low on health so the armor around them is MORE important? Let's say Kamen Rider Fourze or one of the Metal Heroes is fighting a battle in outer space and is critically injured (for some reason). Following the rules, their transformations would be cancelled 'to protect them', causing them to suffocate in the cold vacuum of space. Yikes. So all in all, I have realised something: the whole 'cancel the transformation to protect the user from further harm' thing is stupid (for tech-based heroes anyway). Sorry for forcefully putting weights on everyone's suspension of disbelief, but it's just something that was bugging me. I haven't heard anything like this about other tech-based suits, but it seems plausible, especially for ones that are connected to the user in ways beyond just being worn over their bodies. It's true that losing your armor puts you in a more vulnerable position, especially if you're already injured, but it's still better than getting destroyed along with your suit. |
12-05-2019, 04:32 PM | #237 |
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Yeah, that too now that you mention it.
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12-05-2019, 06:17 PM | #238 |
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Although then again, I have a reasonable explanation as to why Ex-Aid has a system like that: they said something about dead Gamer Riders and those infected with Bugster Virus getting turned into data so I assume that the Gamer Riders Rider Gauges (the heathbars) have something to do with that. I can't exactly see anybody shot or killed out of suit turning into data. Also it's more convenient for Dan Kuroto the Meme Lord to kill someone in-suit to prevent leaving evidence. As for other shows like Zero-One, I think there should at least be a failsafe function in those suits. I don't want to get thrust in the middle of battle and then get knocked out of transformation all of a sudden! Still a bit confused as to the whole 'protection via cancelling transformation' thing going on in terms of practicality. Quote:
Of course, I know perfectly well as to WHY suit transformations are canceled on-screen. Kids watching toku link suits to power, and the removal of transformation, in kids' eyes, symbolises the defeat or failure of a hero. I'm arguing for the sake of application in a more practical sense. Actually, in practical fashion, wouldn't the suits themselves be stored inside the device? If so, then shouldn't the armor pieces stay on the person? I see no reason for the suit transformation to be cancelled. If the suit itself was formed by the device out of energy or something however, that's a WHOLE different story that I can let slide. Last edited by gashatfreak; 12-05-2019 at 06:24 PM.. |
12-05-2019, 07:18 PM | #239 |
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Just realised this, but the little bonus jingles at the end of Zero-One's Progrise Key announcements (e.g. "A jump to the sky turns to a Rider Kick") is supposed to represent small advertisements/blurbs.
You know how companies put a small blurb describing their product? Like, how some of the iPhone X ads have that blurb saying "Brilliant. In every way."? Same concept for the Progrise Keys. This ties in so well with the business motif the show has and I love it! |
12-05-2019, 07:47 PM | #240 |
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That's why I said I can let is slide for heroes who transform using magic, mystical energy sources or energy sources related to their health. I can understand if their 'life force' or something powering their suit starts to disappear due to their state of injury, hence causing their suit to disappear as well. But technology based heroes should at least have a failsafe or something rather than just outright cancelling the transformation. Especially those with 'secret identities'
What needs to be penetrated in order for the user to sustain damage in the first place? The suit itself. Armor, whether super technological or otherwise, has its limits. If the wearer has gotten beaten down enough to where their life is on the line, then the full suit they're wearing must have taken substantial damage as well. And as such, whether due to the drain of power, damage sustained to the device itself, an auto-shut down in order to keep itself going, or just a straight up technological error, the supersuit device will disperse. |
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