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12-13-2020, 02:12 AM | #1991 |
Chou Henshin!
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I haven't seen much Ultra, but the lore and history in this episode was still really fun to see. Someone in the YouTube comments mentioned the possibility of this Belial not becoming the Belial we know, and that possibility for multiple timelines really intrigues me.
I'm also really keen to know what's up with Absolute Tartarus. Could he be the next big villain like Belial and Tregear? |
12-13-2020, 10:53 AM | #1992 |
Dai Shogun
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Germany
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I have to say, as nice as this was - I wish they gave Belial at least some redeeming qualities. The dude is a complete arse, so it's kind of baffling how he was allowed to continue like this without someone intervening to set him straight.
Personally, I would’ve portrayed Belial way more friendly and heroic, with insecurity being his main drive towards ruin instead of simple lust for power. Like, instead of him executing these aliens during the war like a madman, I would’ve made it so that Ken and Belial are ambushed, Ken gets hurt and Belial mercilessly slaughters them out of rage. Because he loves his best friend dearly and seeing him hurt shows a darker side of him. He snaps back after, they don’t speak about it, Belial gets closer with Marie, Ken is appointed Commander, all are happy, but Belial feels like he can’t keep up with his friends. His dark thoughts are nurtured because he feels the third wheel constantly and eventually just seeing Marie casually chatting with Ken drives him over the edge. The training match happens as is, and after he is beaten by Ken the love for his friend turns completely upside down. He feels used and lied to by everyone and urges for raw power to set things straight. It wasn't bad though all things considered, for as much as I would’ve changed it, it was a great back story for such an important character to modern Ultraman. And the end is especially interesting because now we have Early Style Belial in the present and a timeline where he never became evil and went missing instead. Although I feel like that either Belial will be returned to his timeline and become evil regardless, or that the Belial in the present becomes evil and that's their way of resurrecting him for future shows. |
12-13-2020, 11:01 AM | #1993 |
take me to space
Join Date: Sep 2017
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Have to agree about not being tooooo fond of Early Belial's characterisation. As funny as it is, how incompetently unobservant everyone else in the Land of Light is, it's not as compelling this way. I think they honestly should have gone all the way in aping Anakin from II and III :P Maybe they're saving the 'oh look at how good he used to be!' solely for Tregear, but still!
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12-13-2020, 11:38 AM | #1994 |
Showa Girl
Join Date: Jun 2018
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I think they should have still had Belial be as power-hungry and murder-happy as he was; but leaning more towards a practical justification -- he feels it's the most efficient thing to do to win, he thinks Babarue and Nackle would have reported back to Empara, he shows no mercy towards those who'd hurt the Land of Light, etc. It's a classic one and one I think would work out; I don't think portraying Belial as having the same heroic ideals as other Ultras would really jive with his characterisation.
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12-13-2020, 12:00 PM | #1995 |
Alias: ZeroEnchiladas
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I feel like one scene change that would have helped was Babarue and Nackle going to attack Ken when his back was turned only for Belial to come in and save him, calling Ken naive.
That being said I kinda like that Belial was sort of an arse mostly and that Ken was really just looking at their relationship through rose-tinted glasses. Mostly because this basically means that yes, that one little stage showing of Belial beating Ken with a steel chair while training, is totally in character. |
12-14-2020, 12:12 AM | #1996 |
Reiei
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,691
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Question about the Land of Light people...
Say you wanted to be a legendary hero like your idols (Seven, OG Ultra, Ken, Zero, etc.), would your dreams be completely screwed if you were born looking like this? Or is there some process that makes you look closer to a standard Ultraman? I can imagine there being a class full of these guys and any of the new gen ultramen just shows up, showing off their unique genes that makes them look more heroic. |
12-14-2020, 12:17 AM | #1997 |
take me to space
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You look at Taro and 80 and try to tell me looks have anything to do with being a hero.
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12-14-2020, 12:20 AM | #1998 |
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Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: World of Ataru
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I mean there Sora who know working for Galaxy Rescue Force alongside Ribut. And she was originally a Stage Show exclusive Ultra! So long as you put into effort anybody can join the Ultra Brothers or any of the other factions.
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12-14-2020, 06:34 AM | #1999 |
Showa Girl
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There's at least three anime Ultras who look exactly like that
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12-14-2020, 02:54 PM | #2000 |
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I mean, an Ultra's face can change slightly when they obtain a new form. So if an Ultra really was bothered by how they look, they could probably just go off and train for a bit.
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