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10-05-2016, 02:17 PM | #131 |
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"Bitter," yes, but "too" is subjective. I read through your Gaim mega-post, and I understand where you're coming from. I don't feel that Gaim was a perfect show, but it's the best Kamen Rider series I've seen.
A component of what I felt worked in Gaim was structural: they put together a many-Riders series and executed it much better than Ryuki did. There was less need for filler than in a two-Rider series like Wizard. Obviously, you don't need many Riders for a quality series, but it's a promising sign. Rider series sell toys, and Ex-Aid may not need to spend as much time on swappable tires or hoodies when it's busy introducing a zillion Riders and their inevitable misunderstandings. Gaim was also ambitious. You and I disagree to some extent on how successful it was in fulfilling those ambitions, but given the show's initial, clearly deliberate attempts to ape elements of Gaim's structure, I gather folks are feeling optimistic that it might try to copy some elements of that show's ambition. This, I think, is unknowable: Ex-Aid appears to have a fruity exterior, but we don't really know what lies beneath the peel. (By similarities, I'm talking about the on-its-face goofy theme, the collectible gimmick, the so-far-individual weapons for the Riders, the multiple-Rider-at-the-outset structure. The only thing it's missing is directly swappable armor. I expect the similarities are deliberate, but they could be just trying to replicate the success of Gaim's toy lines, rather than its atypical tone.) Anyway, I don't think you're wrong for feeling the way you do about Gaim, even though we disagree on its overall quality, so I can understand how Ex-Aid's surface similarities might make you a little nervous. Also, IIRC, didn't you kinda love Gaim before certain specifics of its execution radically altered your opinion? Your concern, then, would be less about overall quality of individual episodes, and more about whether the season successfully lived up its potential as a coherent narrative, wouldn't it? If so, I don't think there's any way to guess whether you'll be similarly disappointed with Ex-Aid. (For my part, I think Kamen Rider series very rarely live up to their full potential, but I tend to enjoy the ride anyway. Like, I thought Drive ended surprisingly strongly, but I also feel it mostly wasted the story potential in its moral ambiguity. I would've been way happier if Drive had ultimately rescued/redeemed the Roidmude rather than killing them.) Last edited by Tokumonkey; 10-05-2016 at 02:26 PM.. |
10-05-2016, 02:24 PM | #132 |
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I rewatched the early episodes of Gaim recently, though, and I'd forgotten how slapstick it sometimes was at the outset. (And periodically during. Bravo/Durian?)
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10-05-2016, 05:01 PM | #133 |
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(By similarities, I'm talking about the on-its-face goofy theme, the collectible gimmick, the so-far-individual weapons for the Riders, the multiple-Rider-at-the-outset structure. The only thing it's missing is directly swappable armor. I expect the similarities are deliberate, but they could be just trying to replicate the success of Gaim's toy lines, rather than its atypical tone.)
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Also, IIRC, didn't you kinda love Gaim before certain specifics of its execution radically altered your opinion?
I think a lot of people forget that. It's overall tone may be very serious but the comic relief tried its best to "compensate". I think it may be even more over the top than Den-O in places. In my opinion, Gaim is basically the show that planted the seeds for guys like Onari.
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10-05-2016, 05:05 PM | #134 |
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I wouldn't call Bravo an exclusively slapstick character. Yes, he was the comic relief character, but Oren DID things, Oren got character development, Oren learned from his mistakes. If you're going to have a slapstick character, I'd say repeat Sasword, a comic relief character who got shit done but you'd sympathize for him whenever he's down. Sorry if this is a bit off topic!
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10-05-2016, 08:38 PM | #135 |
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Well I rewatched the episode and I am really enjoying what I am seeing. Hopefully this show can keep this up going forward. This show seems to be entertaining and after not keeping up with Ghost I hope that this show can keep my interest.
The main thing that stuck out to me this episode was how well Level 1 rubbed off on me. I really enjoyed the fights scenes that it had. I do wish though that they use it less often as the season continues. The rest of the episode though was very fun and hopefully this show doesn't take a dip like Ninninger or Ghost did. |
10-06-2016, 05:23 AM | #136 |
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Hello, guys. This is my first ever post. I'm here to comment about Ex-Aid's debut episode. Unlike most of the people here, I'm one of the minority who feel the debut episode has some disappointments. Don't get me wrong, there are still some good and cool stuffs with Ex-Aid. I just....find Ex-Aid's first episode to be a little weird, mainly the comedy there. Let's see how about the thing of Emu accidentally crashed someone and terribly rode the roller or whatever that thing was. I just felt that the scene when Emu almost crashed Asuna and his shoe accidentally hit her head was quite...unnatural. I know that they used some CGs there but man..... It feels so unnatural for a bit slapstick.
Another problem that I found is Emu himself. I love him being a bit serious mode and being a person who enjoys himself as Kamen Rider. But, it feels so dumb for him to repeat "Huh?" for so many times in the end! It's not too bad since I know that he feels confused but the actor showed an expression of a dumb person there. And when he first transformed, well...... His reactions were so awkward too. Even Kota was't really that awkward in his first transformation. And..... Is it me but I felt that Director Kagami creeps me a bit with his constant expression changes and he always smiles toward Asuna? Really creeps me as much as Sage teased Akari when invisible. But, that's all my problem there. In fact, I enjoy the action scenes there. Boy, you can't just love how cool is Ex-Aid when he jumps in those brown blocks. I really like the game elements there. Not only that, despite how clunky and chubby LVL 1 is, he was quite agile enough to dodge Bugster's attacks and even jumped on those blocks and got a speed power up. I also loves the "Hit" effects on the battle. I know that they will drop it later but it's still fun to see. The Critical Strike effect wasn't as annoying when Genm used his bike. To be honest, I'm not saying I'm pesimistic toward Ex-Aid or it's a bit letdown for everyone. But, I feel that the premiere episode was quite weird itself. At least, Ghost wasn't actually really over the top or weird in the premiere episode. But, I love the actions here much better than Ghost, thanks to the effects. I could only judge this series during halfway. Despite, how bad the series is, I will still watch it to the very end. For those who could really enjoy the premiere, Congrats! I think I should need some time or rewatching to enjoy the premiere episode of Ex-Aid even more. |
10-06-2016, 07:24 AM | #137 |
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It was okay for a first episode, but honestly, I found it to be nothing special. It was pretty basic in most aspects and the plot, while interesting, didn't have me on the edge of my seat to see more or anything. The last few years drew me in much more. Then again, it wasn't boring either, just hella weird.
Still don't know what to think about all the designs and gimmicks either. They're creative and interesting to look at but I still have trouble picturing all those elements in a more serious streak of events. Let's see what they're gonna do with it. |
10-06-2016, 08:08 AM | #138 |
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It's just too early to really make any solid judgements beyond the aesthetics. It's surreal and that's what's drawing me in, the OTT goofery, not so much. I will say that, when I bought the Gaim box because it was cheap (used) and sat down to watch it, those early episodes were such that I literally said to myself "Well, that fifteen bucks down the drain". That's pretty much the same reaction I'd have with this but, Gaim ended up being something well beyond what those early episodes and so will Ex-Aid.
So, some open speculation: the doctor that saved Emu and introduced him to games - that was Kyotaro Hinata, perhaps?
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10-06-2016, 03:07 PM | #139 |
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Man, Ex-Aid might easily be the weirdest Heisei Rider series I've seen thus far. Not saying it was bad, but it's too early for me to form an opinion on this show yet.
I like the premise, but the over the top silliness not so much. |
10-06-2016, 03:15 PM | #140 |
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