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03-30-2020, 11:17 AM | #221 |
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That's silly! ... They have as many actors as the BBC.
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03-30-2020, 01:14 PM | #222 |
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Some actors just really like the genre and come back for multiple projects. Others only use it as a steppingstone towards more mainstream success. That’s why you’ll see Nao Nagasawa over and over again in tokusatsu, but Masaki Suda is way too busy to even consider reprising Philip.
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03-30-2020, 04:18 PM | #223 |
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Some actors just really like the genre and come back for multiple projects. Others only use it as a steppingstone towards more mainstream success. That’s why you’ll see Nao Nagasawa over and over again in tokusatsu, but Masaki Suda is way too busy to even consider reprising Philip.
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03-30-2020, 05:01 PM | #224 |
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Yeah, I think I read on the Wiki that Philip, Kuuga, and Hibiki are the three that are Not Gonna Happens when it comes to Legend Riders, and the Hibiki one was because he's forever pissed about how that show ended. (I want to say the other one was Den-O, but they managed to get him back for the last Heisei movie?) I honestly think it's amazing they're able to get as many veterans to come back as they do. Like, Kitaoka shows up in that Ex-Aid/Sentai spring movie! Fifteen years later or whatever! Crazy. This franchise. It's so good.
Den-O's actor on the other hand, while he did turn up in Forever? It was a MASSIVE undertaking both in spending and keeping it secret; and something that ended up blowing peoples' minds. It was to the extent that they couldn't really get anyone else back beyond voice roles -- which ironically, even included passing over Philip's actor who said he would have been happy to be in the movie! He's a huge name in movies in general so he's unlikely to come back again; this was just a special one-off that was only achieved through maximum effort for the sake of the anniversary. ... talking of which, you can certainly count Drive's actor in as one of those main Rider actors that struck it big.
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03-30-2020, 05:08 PM | #225 |
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Yeah, I think I read on the Wiki that Philip, Kuuga, and Hibiki are the three that are Not Gonna Happens when it comes to Legend Riders, and the Hibiki one was because he's forever pissed about how that show ended. (I want to say the other one was Den-O, but they managed to get him back for the last Heisei movie?) I honestly think it's amazing they're able to get as many veterans to come back as they do. Like, Kitaoka shows up in that Ex-Aid/Sentai spring movie! Fifteen years later or whatever! Crazy. This franchise. It's so good.
Masaki Suda is a hugely in-demand actor. It's not that he wouldn't come back again, it's just that he's literally booked years in advance. The same is generally true of Sota Fukushi (Fourze), Takeru Satoh (Den-O), and Ryoma Takeuchi (Drive). Shigeki Hosokawa's (Hibiki) case is a little different. He was very vocal about his justifiable distaste for the butchered travesty that was the final part of Hibiki (preview for your Hibiki thread; I have THOUGHTS about that show) and that definitely created a big rift between him and the company. More recently, though, he was blacklisted from his agency due to accusations of power harassment. So even if he did want to reprise the role, he couldn't. Really, if you go looking back all the way to the Showa era there are a lot of interesting stories about the actors and their continued involvement/lack thereof with the show. Skyrider's actor, for example, always wanted to come back to the franchise but his agency wouldn't let him because it was a kid's show. Rider 2's actor has returned to voice the character, but can't appear as him on-screen because he was badly scarred in a house fire. And then there's Super-1's actor, who scammed a bunch of fans out of money before completely vanishing off the grid. |
03-30-2020, 05:17 PM | #226 |
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The snake-print boot I mean, not Emu. Poor, poor Emu. I can't remember if this screencap happens after or before Asakura beats him with a metal pipe and shoves his face in a bag of medical waste, but what I definitely remember is that the Brave special forever defined Emu in my heart as "the guy writers have a bet going to see who can punish him the most". I mean, for f***'s sake, in the Another Ending movies, the way Yuuya Takahashi kept him out the plot was to have him get shot. Back in the W Returns days, just getting held up by some cops was enough to keep Shoutarou and Philip from stealing Accel's V-Cinema spotlight, but noooo, Emu's gotta end up in the hospital. See, 'cause he's a doctor! It's irony or something! As I've heard it, it's important to note that Odagiri actually does look back fondly on his time working on Kuuga, but legitimately doesn't have much love for tokusatsu as a whole, and definitely didn't want to get typecast doing those kind of roles. This is all hearsay on my part, though, because I can't even remember where I heard most of this stuff.
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03-30-2020, 05:22 PM | #227 |
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As for toku alumni who have gone to be big shots not returning a part of it seems to be the agency's decision and also they cost too much to hire because of their status and resume so it can be hard for Toei to make it happen even if an agency says lets do this unless they allocate their budget based on said actor and work around that probably.
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03-30-2020, 05:33 PM | #228 |
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Man, thanks for all of that info! Y'all are the best. I love that I can toss up a What's The Deal With Legend Riders and four super-knowledgeable fans can break it down for me. Thanks for sharing your expertise!
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03-30-2020, 05:41 PM | #229 |
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MASKED RIDER RYUKI EPISODE 19
Rider Fest! Six Riders! No Waiting! Cool Dialogue! Awesome Action! Yui's Plot Is Both Depressing And Infuriating! RIDER FEST! Woof, this episode. It's a tense, hilarious culmination of the last few episodes worth of storytelling. It's nearly perfect. But, man, the Yui stuff. Kind-of this show's achilles heel right now. All of the main storyline kills, though. Shibaura's manipulation to get all six Riders in one place to fight, it's incredibly exciting. Shinji gets a bunch of big ol' hero moments (he's holding that kid's hand after they've both been knocked out!!!), Asakura luxuriates in his menace, Kitaoka gets to confront Asakura while a billion cameras watch, Tezuka shows his dedication to changing Ren's fate, Ren risks it all to save a friend, and Shibaura gets the Rider Battle of his dreams. It's a terrific intertwining of all of these characters and all of their goals. The Ren/Tezuka stuff, there's a thing I'm really liking that I hadn't even noticed until this episode. (Or maybe I did and I forgot?) We've still got no real clue about what Ren's feeling, what he's planning. There's a mystery to Ren's motivation at this point, and I think that adds a ton of drama to a plot that's maybe dragged on a bit long. (How long has he been brooding in that park, a century?) I like the uncertainty of what exactly Ren's going to do next, besides claim he'll kill Riders. He's a gigantic question mark, and I think that's a smart move. Everyone else, all the other Riders, pretty much do what they do best. Everyone's in-character in this one, and while nothing was surprising, every action the other Riders took made sense. I got why they were involving themselves, what they hoped to achieve. That's tough to do with six Riders, and it's laudable that eighteen episodes got us to such a rich cast. Shame about Yui, though. So, first, I do not at all understand what was going on with Yui being held hostage or whatever. Shibaura goes to the tea shop and sees Yui. The next scene is Shibaura alone at the tea shop, taunting Ren and Tezuka with Yui's apron. Shibaura leaves, Ren and Tezuka meet him at the venue. While Ren and Shibaura fight, Tezuka goes inside and finds Yui... standing around? What was she doing there? How did she get there? Tezuka just walks up to her, so it's not like she's locked away or guarded. Did she get dragged there by Shibaura, and then he went back to the tea shop before the other two got there? Why didn't she just leave? Literally nothing about Shibaura using Yui as leverage makes any sense to me. (She's just standing against a wall with her arms folded when Tezuka runs up, like she's waiting for a table at a busy restaurant. She looks mildly inconvenienced by her circumstances. I don't understand what she's doing there.) And, that's frustrating, an illogical plot point. It's one thing, and if that was all that bothered me about Yui, whatever. I'll live. But, man, I'm real bored whenever Yui shows up these days. This show gives her nothing interesting to do. She's just holding down the fort at the cafe, or worrying about the boys. All of the Shiro stuff, it's just the same beat of plaintive whining, drippy nonsense where she's begging a mirror ghost for answers. There're steps in the right direction, where Yui's being more active in getting answers by investigating(-ish) the Secret Science Society, but in this episode she's worthless. She's a victim, in basically every scene. It's weird to me that, on a show with so many nuanced, compelling characters, Yui is sincerely getting less watchable with every episode. And that's not even the biggest bummer of this episode! Shibaura might've added one too many Riders to Rider Fest, and gotten Final Vented into being a monster's lunch. It's not certain yet, but it ain't looking good. Just in case I never get another chance, Shibaura, play us out.
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03-30-2020, 05:44 PM | #230 |
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Heck I remember hearing about Suda talking with his agency buddy Matsuzaka who played Takeru/Shinken Red in Shinkenger(Seriously this should be one of your future Kamen Rider Die Reviews alongside Liveman) about fun times filming Kamen Rider W and Shinkenger and just goes to show, they have become big time but they still love being heroes(Please review Shinkenger Die ).
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