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03-20-2019, 09:52 PM | #1 |
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Disclaimer: This thread I created is aimed at users who are living in the US and Europe. Anyone from East and Southeast Asia may have a different cultural and parental standard on how kids watch their shows.
I stumble upon a Reddit thread about introducing Super Sentai to their children: Reddit thread: Introducing SS to young children? There was a lot of mixed feeling about introducing Super Sentai to their children. Judging from the posts on the Reddit thread, it looks like a lot of the posts are done by Sentai fans in Asia. I don't see any of them mentioning USA or Europe (or even Latin/South America). So this topic talk about how do we introduce our children to Toku shows (doesn't have to be from Japan, a Chinese or Korean toku shows can also applied in this same situation). All of us on Tokunation know that toku shows are made for children, so it would make sense to introduce Super Sentai and Ultraman to our kids, right? Well, that get a little complicated and involved knowing your child's psychology. Not all toku can appeal to children or not all toku are "child-friendly" like for example, don't show your children GARO or Kamen Rider Amazons (that include the 1974 version) since they're both targeted toward older audiences. Case in example: I have a 7 year old niece that I introduce Ultra Seven, and Zyuranger and she fell in love with both of the show. But I can't introduce Ultraman Leo to her because I found the first half of the show to be too dark for a 7 year old to watch. So one of my question to anyone on Tokunation that have children: How do you approach introducing toku shows to your children? How do you decide which toku is appropriate for your children to watch? However there seem to be one benefit of having your child watching Tokusatsu shows. Subtitles can help improve/increase a child's literacy skill It has been acknowledge for the last few years that turning on subtitles/closed caption on TVs can help boost children's literacy/reading ability. Many studies have confirmed and backed this up: NIH research article: Video Captions Benefit Everyone Research into Using Video Subtitles and Closed Captions to Improve Reading and Literacy Skills TES Exclusive article: 'TV subtitles boost literacy’ - Greening Closed Captioning Gives Literacy a Boost Closed Captions Improve Literacy in Children Why Gen Z Loves Closed Captioning Let me quote the benefit of subtitled program and children's literacy: Quote:
Subtitles and captions help children with word identification, meaning, acquisition, and retention.
Reading subtitles is motivating to reading. Subtitles and captions can help children establish a systematic link between the written word and the spoken word. Pre-readers, by becoming familiar with subtitles and captions, will have familiar signposts when they begin reading print-based material. Subtitles and captions have been related to higher comprehension skills when compared to viewers watching the same media without them. Children who have a positive experience in reading will want to read; reading subtitles and captions provides such an experience. Reading is a skill that requires practice, and practice in reading subtitles and captions is practice with authentic text. Voicebox UK: Why switching the subtitle on is a sure-fire way to improve child literacy The Conversation: Why children should be watching TV with the subtitles on And I'll quote the article from The Conversation about the effect of foreign-language shows with English subtitles on children: Quote:
Learning other languages
Watching foreign language films and television programmes with subtitles in their first language is a motivating way to support children as they begin learning other languages. Research shows that children can learn vocabulary and improve their proficiency in other languages incidentally, just by watching subtitled foreign language films and television programmes. Subtitles can also help them learn another language intentionally, as part of a course of study. Watching subtitled foreign language films, television programmes and videos also has the key potential to improve children’s intercultural awareness. Internationally sourced programmes on British television for children are largely drawn from the US and research shows that children’s viewing is dominated by American content. As a result, children in the UK do not have much access to content produced in non-anglophone countries, at least not on their television screens. Giving children greater access to high-quality, educational media content in other languages would give them opportunities to learn about the lives of children in other cultures and to identify with children who speak languages other than theirs. Boosting children’s exposure to subtitled foreign language films and television programmes would be a simple, inexpensive way to promote their learning of other languages. Encouraging children to learn other languages is of crucial importance in the UK at the moment, given the decline in language learning over the past 20 years. The one that I bolded and underlined in the quote seem to be the benefit of having your children watching toku shows whether it's Super Sentai, Ultraman, or maybe Metal Heroes. The studies doesn't say if foreign-language program with English subtitle can help, but I can say this: my 7 year old niece is the example and reason why it maybe a smart idea to give your kids a toku show with English subtitle. The English subtitle with a non-English spoken audio can add challenge to your child's reading skill. So Toku shows (and/or any foreign-language children shows) can be beneficial for children's reading, the fact that the spoken audio is not English and relying on subtitle can make the show not only entertaining, but think of them as a "live-action" book. Children Japanese anime with English subtitle can do the same effect, entertaining but also add challenges. Also for anyone living in Brazil or in non-English speaking European countries, here's another benefit of English subtitles if you are studying English as a 2nd language: Quote:
Subtitles and captions can be very beneficial to those learning English as a Second Language.
But back on topic, if you want to help your children with their reading skill or give them a challenge in reading, a English subtitled tokusatsu show can really do wonder. As I said, my 7 year old niece watched Ultra Seven and Zyuranger with English subtitled and well she can handled any foreign-language show I can give to her. I also showed Zyuranger to her friends and her cousins that are the same age as her and they liked Zyuranger a lot, and I didn't show them Power Ranger. My 7 year old niece along with her cousins/friends all watched Zyuranger with English subtitle. I'm planning to diversify the foreign-language programs for my niece. I don't limited to toku and Japanese anime, no she'll watch a Children Korean drama on Amazon Prime, and maybe a live-action Italian-language children TV show on Netflix. So my 2nd set of questions for all of you on Tokunation that have been reading this thread: Do you agree with the studies about subtitle and children's literacy? Are you more likely to give your children a toku show because of the studies and evidence English subtitle can help your child's reading skill? My last question: Which toku show do you deem "child-friendly"? I considered Zyuranger, Ultra Seven to be good for children. Are there any other Toku (the one with English subtitle) that you think are good for kids to watch and practice their reading. Last edited by mdo7; 12-22-2020 at 08:49 PM.. Reason: Fixing some obvious mistake, adding more evidences of subtitles can help children |
03-21-2019, 12:01 PM | #2 |
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To me, sometimes I think Toku shows isn't suitable for kids even though some Toku shows are meant for kids. There are a lot of good things that kids can learn, like teamwork is important, we should learn to forgive, etc. But I notice that Toku shows always use violence when the one that doing bad things is a monster. I know, they're monsters and most of them are trying to destroy the world so it's fine to use violence no matter what bad things they do. But I'm afraid kids might get things wrong. First, I'm afraid kids might use violent to whoever they don't like without trying to think another way to solve their problems. Second, kids will think that the actions and the weapons are cool, I'm afraid that kids will try to demonstrate it because they think whatever the heroes do are right and they wanted to be like them. I think that's a bad thing for them and also dangerous. Because of this I always try to avoid them to watch this kind of shows until they understand what they shouldn't do and what they should.
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03-21-2019, 03:53 PM | #3 |
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To me, sometimes I think Toku shows isn't suitable for kids even though some Toku shows are meant for kids. There are a lot of good things that kids can learn, like teamwork is important, we should learn to forgive, etc. But I notice that Toku shows always use violence when the one that doing bad things is a monster. I know, they're monsters and most of them are trying to destroy the world so it's fine to use violence no matter what bad things they do. But I'm afraid kids might get things wrong. First, I'm afraid kids might use violent to whoever they don't like without trying to think another way to solve their problems. Second, kids will think that the actions and the weapons are cool, I'm afraid that kids will try to demonstrate it because they think whatever the heroes do are right and they wanted to be like them. I think that's a bad thing for them and also dangerous. Because of this I always try to avoid them to watch this kind of shows until they understand what they shouldn't do and what they should.
I do believe that some Toku shows are too extreme for kids and many should wait before seeing the more serious material, but not all Toku (including but not limited to P.R.) falls under a "one-size-fits-all" banner! I also recommend the "Ultimate Visual History" for P.R., more specifically Pages 17 & 38. I apologize for the low-quality. Last edited by TokuKnight89; 03-21-2019 at 03:57 PM.. |
03-21-2019, 10:01 PM | #4 |
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To me, sometimes I think Toku shows isn't suitable for kids even though some Toku shows are meant for kids. There are a lot of good things that kids can learn, like teamwork is important, we should learn to forgive, etc. But I notice that Toku shows always use violence when the one that doing bad things is a monster. I know, they're monsters and most of them are trying to destroy the world so it's fine to use violence no matter what bad things they do. But I'm afraid kids might get things wrong. First, I'm afraid kids might use violent to whoever they don't like without trying to think another way to solve their problems. Second, kids will think that the actions and the weapons are cool, I'm afraid that kids will try to demonstrate it because they think whatever the heroes do are right and they wanted to be like them. I think that's a bad thing for them and also dangerous. Because of this I always try to avoid them to watch this kind of shows until they understand what they shouldn't do and what they should.
My niece and her friends are smart enough to know that the characters are fictional and don't imitate whatever they saw. I don't know what up with your kids, but you realize not all young kid think that way. So I understand it's your opinion, but could you elaborate why would you think all kids shouldn't watch tokusatsu since my niece and her friends are proof that toku don't screw up kid's mind or their reality. Quote:
Many have broached this matter regarding P.R. a thousand times over! I've since realized that while Tokusatsu tends to operate under different censorship guidelines in Japan, the same arguments might still apply.
I do believe that some Toku shows are too extreme for kids and many should wait before seeing the more serious material, but not all Toku (including but not limited to P.R.) falls under a "one-size-fits-all" banner! I also recommend the "Ultimate Visual History" for P.R., more specifically Pages 17 & 38. I apologize for the low-quality. Also I'm aware of Power Ranger drawing parent backlash, but that's in the past. I'm talking about today. Now because of streaming websites, DVDs, and blu-ray are advanced technology compared to what the 90's and Power Ranger had back then, and now because of original content from Japan getting subtitled release (ie: like in the case of Super Sentai getting release by Shout! Factory, and Juspion getting release in the US for the first time) along with foreign-language children program getting subtitled stream/release, and the fact that studies have now acknowledged that subtitles and closed caption can help increase children's reading/literary skill. That's why this topic is created for, to have a debate about if introducing our children to tokusatsu show is good and beneficial for them when it comes to enhance their reading skill. Also to see how do we approach introducing these shows to our children. As I said, my 7 year old niece and her friends had no problem watching Zyuranger with English subtitles. Picture attachment: my 7 year old niece and her friends watching Zyuranger on TV. |
03-21-2019, 11:52 PM | #5 |
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As I said, that will depend on your kid's psychology. If you bother to read my post, I said it that my 7 year old niece had no problem watching Zyuranger and Ultra Seven.
My niece and her friends are smart enough to know that the characters are fictional and don't imitate whatever they saw. I don't know what up with your kids, but you realize not all young kid think that way. So I understand it's your opinion, but could you elaborate why would you think all kids shouldn't watch tokusatsu since my niece and her friends are proof that toku don't screw up kid's mind or their reality. |
03-22-2019, 12:45 AM | #6 |
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I remember showing a 9 year-old kid once a violent scene from Kamen Rider Amazons (the one where Omega was killing all those Ant Amazons) and he just shrugged it off and said he'd seen worse. Not that it would help this thread, but just pointing out that all kids are different and can tolerate different amounts of gore.
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03-22-2019, 12:35 PM | #7 |
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I doubt he has been on the dark web. If not, you have video games and movies that are more graphic than Amazon. Not sure about kids these days, but I do remember kids in the 90s (at least in my local area) like violent stuff like Mortal Kombat and Scream. They knew it was fake and they would be locked up if they kill someone.
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03-22-2019, 05:27 PM | #8 |
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I remember showing a 9 year-old kid once a violent scene from Kamen Rider Amazons (the one where Omega was killing all those Ant Amazons) and he just shrugged it off and said he'd seen worse. Not that it would help this thread, but just pointing out that all kids are different and can tolerate different amounts of gore.
Personally though, the fact that he said he'd seen worse disturbs me. Quote:
Kids will not demonstrate things if you teach them not to do it. When MMPR was airing back when I was 3 years old back in 1994, all of the kids would pretend to be Power Rangers at the playground and no one got hurt because they know that they would get in trouble if they hurt someone. Kids are smarter than people give them credit for if you teach them what is right and wrong at an early age.
My advice to any current or future parent on Tokunation: pre-screen the show/content before you showed it to your children. Judge and determine the content in each children show you're going to show to them. Not every children show will be "clean" or "child-friendly" or child appropriate, I mean for example: Yeah, do whatever they talked about in the video look appropriate for your children? Just because it's a kid show doesn't mean it won't be 100% appropriate to all of them. Quote:
I doubt he has been on the dark web. If not, you have video games and movies that are more graphic than Amazon. Not sure about kids these days, but I do remember kids in the 90s (at least in my local area) like violent stuff like Mortal Kombat and Scream. They knew it was fake and they would be locked up if they kill someone.
My principle: if a kid can't played a M-rated video game, then these same kid shouldn't play any children toy based on that M-rated video game franchise. Meaning if you don't want your kids to play Call of Duty or Gears of War video game, then don't buy the children toys based on those video game. I should also clarified that regarding kids watching tokusatsu shows, I would prefer kids 7-10 to be watching those shows. Pre-school age up to age 5 shouldn't watch them because they can't read subtitles. According to several experts on child development, children should develop their reading skill at age 5 and start giving them subtitle/closed caption on TV at either 7 or 8 years old. At that age, that's where I would start giving kids toku shows and/or any foreign-language children shows with English subtitle. I'll attached a chart explaining the age and reading development. Here are some more information about children and reading: Should my young child already be reading? early child reading |
05-21-2019, 10:57 AM | #9 |
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I say 7 or 8 is a good age to get your kid into Toku if they know how to read subs by then. Den-O or Foruze are fun choices for younger kids while Kuuga and Agito feel more up to the pre-teen audience (10-12).
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07-19-2019, 01:31 PM | #10 |
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I remember my mom leaving me at home as a kid to watch my new VCD of Kuuga. I also had a Growing Form Kuuga toy I just bought.
I watched the Spider Grongi kill like fifty police officers and I turned out pretty alright. Ah, I miss my childhood. |
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