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05-04-2022, 11:20 PM | #941 |
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KUUGA, AGITO, RYUKI, FAIZ, AND BLAAAAAADDE!
HIBIKI, KABUTO, DEN-O, KIVA, DECAAAADDE! DOUBLE, OOO, AND FOURZE WIZARD -- OH, GAIM! AND DRIVE TOO! THERE'S GHOST, (OH!) EX-AID, (OHH!) AND BUILD! (OOOOHHH!) BEHOLD! KAMEN RIDERRRRRR! GRAND KING ZI-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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05-04-2022, 11:26 PM | #942 |
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40 episodes, and like, twenty years of television roughly! Doesn't feel like it, huh?!
I wanted to say that, surprising to myself, I think the character-of-the-fortnight story here with Takuya kinda really resonated with me. I don't know if it's just because it's in the presence of Grand Zi-O, but I found this somber revenge story quite memorable. I couldn't tell you a thing about any other of Zi-O's motw stories that wasn't just purely about a returning actor, but this one really stuck with me just on the merits of the premise and the performance of the guest actors (because the actual main cast barely get involved in this story other than blowing up the monster!). But yeah this episode's biggest priority other than throwing in more Imagin nostalgia, is Grand Zi-O, supposedly the toy to end all toys with how much marketing hyped up, even proud of how its transformation jingle is the longest yet! I like these toku shows for the ways they work merch into the plots. In this episode, the merch in of itself is kind of the event rather than the story surrounding it, but since it is also supposed to be symbolic of twenty year's worth of shows and DX toys, and celebrating that, I'm more fine with it than I would be otherwise. There's been a lot of debuts that play out this classic formula: New form is bust out at climax and it kicks butt to a rocking insert song, it works every single time, and it especially worked here with a powerset that's specifically engineered to be both incredibly flashy and instill immediate nostalgia and fanservice every second. Sharing for fun but I very distinctly remember a reaction I had near the end of the episode. Its when Yuuto turns to Sougo and goes "Are you really Oma Zi-O?" and for a really brief amount of time, I was absolutely frozen with fear. I was so afraid that this was foreshadowing that here in the final stretch, the show would throw in some plot twist where it turns out Sougo isn't actually the overlord they've been fighting against this whole time, and thus ruin every single story beat the show has ever had. I know that sounds unthinkable, I thought it was too so I dismissed the thought before the next episode had aired. But wow did that one line really make me shiver and panic... |
05-05-2022, 02:39 AM | #943 |
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Well, we’re back with another one of these…
Ridewatch Playlist: So Many Movies Mix “Riding the train of time, the Rider fighting with Imagin is… Den-O” And given the massive variety of remixes and re-recordings Den-O has, I went with an original (as in, the original recording/mix) song for this one, Double Action “All the Imagins’ power gathers, Den-O Climax Form” And here, I went for a re-recording, with Climax Jump Den-Liner Form. “All of the Imagin now become one, Go, go, go! Den-O, Liner Form” And here, I went for a remix, with Real Action “Riding the green train, the Rider from the past is Zeronos” And to close this off, I went with another original recording, Action Zero And the unreleased: Kamen Rider Den-O (Plat Form) Kamen Rider Den-O (Rod Form) Kamen Rider Den-O (Ax Form) Kamen Rider Den-O (Gun Form) Kamen Rider Den-O (Wing Form) Kamen Rider Den-O (Super Climax Form) Kamen Rider New Den-O (Strike Form) Kamen Rider New Den-O (Vega Form) Kamen Rider Zeronos (Vega Form) Kamen Rider Zeronos (Zero Form) Kamen Rider Gaoh Kamen Rider Nega Den-O Kamen Rider Yuuki (Hijack Form) Kamen Rider Yuuki (Skull Form) Kamen Rider G Den-O And now, the compare and contrast, Ryotaro admires his sister’s boyfriend, while Takuya hates his. ‘Nuff said (that’s literally how the official synopsis summed it up) And for some etymology, Takuya’s surname is “Endo”. As for the episode, I like the detail of us seeing what episode these Riders and weapons are being summoned from, even if it quickly becomes obvious they couldn’t feasibly keep it up. Next time: The finale arc, which is also the Decade arc, begins. Last edited by Androzani84; 05-05-2022 at 05:56 AM.. |
05-05-2022, 12:50 PM | #944 |
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Sharing for fun but I very distinctly remember a reaction I had near the end of the episode. Its when Yuuto turns to Sougo and goes "Are you really Oma Zi-O?" and for a really brief amount of time, I was absolutely frozen with fear. I was so afraid that this was foreshadowing that here in the final stretch, the show would throw in some plot twist where it turns out Sougo isn't actually the overlord they've been fighting against this whole time, and thus ruin every single story beat the show has ever had. I know that sounds unthinkable, I thought it was too so I dismissed the thought before the next episode had aired. But wow did that one line really make me shiver and panic...
But at this point in the story, knowing Yuuto came straight from the future to bump off Sougo... it lands a little bit more mysteriously than the writer probably intended. There was a minute back before Sougo first fought Oma Zi-O, where I wondered if Sougo was being framed somehow, but it's way too late in the series to pivot away from this being Sougo's destiny. It's the sort of twist that... boy, I just feel like it'd ruin the show? Maybe there's a clever story to do with it, but thematically? Basically just torpedoed your entire series arc. The OOO one specifically was really clever. I like that it's time travel, not just the Decade thing of summoning maybe the guy, maybe a simulacrum. This show's done a great job of making sure that all the powers are rooted in Time to some degree. I appreciate it!
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05-05-2022, 01:38 PM | #945 |
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05-05-2022, 01:43 PM | #946 |
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I just sort of assumed that once the Revive Ridewatch realized how much Geiz was okay with being slowly martyred by a collectible that it was like You Made It Weird and stopped murdering him.
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05-05-2022, 02:59 PM | #947 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 40 - ?2017 - GRAND CLIMAX!?
It?s not a bad episode, by any stretch. The Legend Rider aspects went over great. The Takuya storyline has an earned sense of melancholy, and does a great job of looping in Den-O?s pervasive feeling of regret to create an affecting story of grief. Grand Zi-O?s nearly half-episode long debut is suitably epic; a movie finale in miniature. Tsukuyomi even gets a couple lines! Quote:
It?s just? I don?t know, nothing really hit me emotionally, despite the overall quality being more than sufficient. I think it?s that the various elements of the story never seemed to have much particular buy-in from Team Zi-O. They?re committed to helping Yukihiro, and obtaining the Den-O Ridewatch, but the big emotional beats of this story don?t really involve our heroes. They?re present, but they?re not participating, if that makes any sense. This wasn?t a problem that taught Sougo anything about himself, or tested Geiz?z resolve, or troubled Woz?z confidence, or remembered to include Tsukuyomi. It was a Den-O problem, and they all got to play-act as the Den-Liner crew for a fortnight.
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It?s a hell of a debut. Probably one of the most stunning and grandiose upgrade debuts I?ve ever seen. Much like the impossibly shiny suit, it?s a clean debut, for better or worse. There?s no sinister darkness to Sougo?s new power, nor is there a catharsis to his achievement. He just, like, collected them all. Den-O?s Ridewatch was a little tricky, but it wasn?t an insurmountable hurdle. While it?s fun to have a debut that we can all just enjoy, no strings attached, it felt a bit hollow to me. Zi-O II came about because Sougo acknowledged his capacity for evil, all the better to overcome it. Geiz Revive was an arrival that heralded a duel between Geiz and his friend, a duel neither of them wanted. Grand Zi-O, though? it?s just, like, time for it? No pun intended? It overwhelms with spectacle, but I found myself wanting there to be more weight to it all.
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05-05-2022, 04:33 PM | #948 |
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(Fish Sandwich also watched Kamen Rider Zi-O - EP40)
Kinda sad to say, but I've basically forgotten most of the non-Grand Zi-O things in this episode beyond "Everyone was hanging around a hospital I think...?" It's good to be reminded it was doing some very Den-O things with its drama, even if, yeah, evidently it didn't connect with me all that much either. It's a pretty killer debut for a final form though! Grand Zi-O has never been one of my favorites or anything, and specific to Zi-O, I ended up liking Trinity way too much, but as a design, I very strongly feel it's essentially the objective correct thing for the final Heisei Rider's ultimate form to look like? King Form *is* one of my favorites, and considering we already ripped off Climax Form, I don't see anything wrong with tapping into that same brilliance. Sougo's a king! He should totally be all gold and regal looking, and have a clock beard and statues of every Heisei Rider including himself! Everything about Grand Zi-O makes perfect sense, and on that level -- how difficult it is to find fault with -- I am pretty fond of it. As for the episode around that debut, in that case it's Zi-O II that's already stolen my heart, but similarly, I think Mouri wrote something that was very fitting for the stretch of the show it's capping off. It's relentlessly fun, with the idea that Zi-O's growing power might not be good taking a back seat to watching him summon loads of old Riders and Imagin antics and what have you. Again, like so many of the episodes lately, it's one that just kinda leaves you with a good feeling, you know? Even that undercurrent of foreboding associated with Sougo's BGM goes away in favor of a rocking Rider Chips jam, which I would be upset about, but like, the fight is too happy for the usual motifs. That elaborate transformation and subsequent fight scene clearly had a massive amount of effort placed into them too, so I'll go ahead and mention that this episode was directed Takayuki Shibasaki, who seems to excel at putting together sequences that involve a ton of digital effects work like this one. Probably not too surprising that this is the part of the episode that stuck with me! (Also, I can kind of think of a reason why Yuuto would ask Sougo if he's actually Sougo, but I'll just keep that thought to myself for now.) Oh, and about Geiz Revive, since that's come up: I've never understood why the "he got used to it" explanation is so objectionable? My interpretation of what Woz said about it damaging Geiz's body was always that it basically just causes an immense physical strain to use those powers, rather than the Ride Watch like, pumping poison directly into Geiz or something, and going by that theory, the idea that he'd gradually adjust to that (exactly like the exercise comparison Shirakura made!) isn't so far-fetched, right? Keep in mind right after he got it, he was also fighting Zi-O, Another Zi-O, and Woz a whole bunch in a really short span of time, so he actually was exerting himself more than normal to begin with.
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05-05-2022, 04:45 PM | #949 |
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Kinda sad to say, but I've basically forgotten most of the non-Grand Zi-O things in this episode beyond "Everyone was hanging around a hospital I think...?" It's good to be reminded it was doing some very Den-O things with its drama, even if, yeah, evidently it didn't connect with me all that much either.
I know I gushed about his form last episode, but now I can get to the meat of the matter, that being his glorious transformation. Every Heisei Rider's (main season) statues appear, all of their standbys play, then the main jingle plays, reciting all of them, followed by an Iwae! (I love this line so much), it's just so good! Even Woz is at a loss for words, which normally I'd be disappointed in him not giving out a speech, but here it's absolutely justified that there are no words for him to convey this form with. And gosh diddly darn, do I love Grand Zi-O's attacks, summoning his predecessors through time to dish out attacks, sure one could argue it makes no sense since he took their powers, but in the context of this form itself imbued with the power of all the Heisei Riders, it can be said that he himself is the Riders' timeline, thus making it possible to summon them through their own respective times. I did not need to write all that, so long story short, I love Grand Zi-O, and Next New World slaps. But I did enjoy seeing the Imagin jumping personalities with Geiz and Uncle, and I'm glad Momotaros got to shine somewhat in the fight against Another Den-O (who I'm glad to see return since it's such a good design, even though it was obvious he'd be back), just like in Decade, though at least this time he's not getting kicked in the head by an ally. Last edited by Daikaijuman54; 05-05-2022 at 04:47 PM.. |
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I probably feel that, about how it's easier to blame someone than accept that tragedies occur like Takuya did, was kinda related to Geiz earlier on when he'd blame Sougo over everything, such as Tsukuyomi getting hurt for being involved. But the story is way past that now after Geiz warmed up to Sougo at ep. 15, or when they grew closer by the time he got Geiz Revive.
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But I did enjoy seeing the Imagin jumping personalities with Geiz and Uncle, and I'm glad Momotaros got to shine somewhat in the fight against Another Den-O (who I'm glad to see return since it's such a good design, even though it was obvious he'd be back), just like in Decade, though at least this time he's not getting kicked in the head by an ally.
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