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01-13-2024, 08:30 AM | #1 |
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Houtaro & Rinne find themselves in a world where the Alchemy Academy does not exist.
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01-14-2024, 02:00 AM | #2 |
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It seems like Minato Neuralyzes all Muggles and erases himself out of their memories. The only people who remember his tenure (and thus, existence) as a teacher in Houtarou's school are Houtarou and the other expelled AA students (Rinne, Sabimaru, Renge) who were supposed to be Neuralyzed in episode 17. Minato behaves strangely cordial around Glion. Has he been Glion's spy/double agent/conspirator all this time? But in episode 17 he didn't seem to recognize Glion.
Glion addresses The Sisters as his beloved dolls, probably derisively, which makes Lachesis visibly irritated, and tells them that their jobs are strictly collecting Chemies. It seems like he views The Sisters and his other homunculi as merely his toys (hence why the blank slates that he created them from do look like dolls), tools, or even slaves. He views them as mere objects for his experiments. Renge and Sabimaru decide that their dreams as alchemists are over. Why are they kidnapped too, along with Rinne later, like the 4 people in episode 17? GD casually gives his Gotchar Igniter to Houtarou, but his offer's declined by Houtarou who decides that he will grasp his future with his own hands. Houtarou decides that he's gonna create his own Gotchar Igniter. GD states that it can be created by accessing the past with Timelord's ability and transmuting some kind of a treasured artifact that Houtarou created in the past using alchemy. Soooo... Houtarou was already familiar with alchemy in the past. This statement also implies that GD knows that Houtarou's memories has been tampered and he knows everything that actually happened in Houtarou's past. And if Houtarou can access the past with Timelord's ability, then does it mean that it's also what gave GD the ability to travel from the future to the present time? GD states @ 08:10 that Houtarou must never come into contact with his past self at all cost, probably because that will result in him being annihilated from existence. This statement also implies that the reason why GD has never been shown untransformed onscreen is exactly because he is Houtarou from the future, probably an alternate future like I elaborated here. This self-annihilation that's caused by physical contact between a person and his past self is a common trope in stories featuring time travel like Tenet (2020) or Timecop (1994). The reasoning is very probably because two identical atoms can exist at the same time, but not at the same time and at the same space. If this hypothesis is true, then GD is probably not a Houtarou from an alternate future, but the future Houtarou from the same timeline as the present Houtarou. If this is true, then Houtarou's world is a single timeline reality, not a multiversal reality with infinite branches. But as Robert Pattinson's character (Neil) stated in Tenet, "In a parallel worlds theory, we can't know the relationship between consciousness and multiple realities", this single timeline trope may have a very high chance of creating a multitude of interpretations, haha. Timelord takes Houtarou back 10 years to the past, but they end up in the strange, surreal world of Ouroboros. There he sees himself as a kid (kid Houtarou/KH) playing with Hopper1, Steamliner, and 24 other Chemies in RCC forms. This scene is basically a plug ad for DX Action Chemie toys, haha. As I hypothesized here and here, Houtarou was already very familiar with Chemies (and probably also alchemy) in the past. This reveal makes Houtarou wonder how he forgot his friendship with Chemies. In this scene, KH mentions his father and draws in the sand an object he always wore: A pair of goggles, that looks like aviator goggles, very probably signifying his passion as an adventurer, like mentioned by KH several moments later. The goggle drawing in the sand that KH drew then transforms into an actual goggle, which shows that Houtarou had had some alchemical skills in the past. How is KH able to do alchemical tricks if he doesn't wear a Ring? Or is it just because KH is in the Ouroboros world? How the heck did KH get stranded in the Ouroboros world in the first place? Houtarou realizes that the treasured artifact mentioned by GD is actually the goggles that was just created by KH. I hypothesized last week here that the past accessed by Timelord's ability was just a passive, non-interactive "recordings" of the past, but as this episode shows it turns out that I was wrong. Timelord's ability can take someone to the actual past. GD warns Houtarou to never physically contact KH, but they touch @ 10:05, and it only causes Timelord to be strained/injured and makes him and Houtarou unable to stay in the past for too long. I thought that it would cause a self-annihilation or some kind of negative effect. Come on Mr. Kamen Writers, I've prepared for something gruesome like in Timecop, haha. Or probably the negative effect will show up in later episodes? In the scene @ 10:41 Houtarou and KH encounter the past version of Glion and The Sisters. As I hypothesized here, the colors of Glion's Ring is the same as Fuga's (red gem with golden shank), so they're very probably equal in skills. Glion mentions that the Ouroboros is Fuga's chosen place of research. Does this mean that Fuga was the one who discovered the Ouroboros world, and Glion attempted to conquer it as well? Glion then (conveniently, haha) finds the schematics of the Gotchardriver (or probably its predecessor), and concludes that it's the key to open the door of darkness. Glion claims that the door of darkness can bring true chemistry to the world, which very probably means the ability to control and manipulate all aspects of reality. Fuga then appears and fights Glion who reveals that it was him who tampered with AU's top brasses' memories, thus framing Fuga as a traitor. What exactly was Glion's position in the AU that he was able to tamper with AU's top brasses' memories? What exactly was Fuga's position in the AU that he was unable to defend himself when Glion defamed him in front of the whole AU? And what's the connection between Glion framing Fuga and the fated event a decade ago? It seems like Glion still needs an object/tool to channel his alchemy power, while Fuga could channel his power with only his bare hands. Glion's golden Rubik cube is his new tool to replace his old one which was destroyed by Fuga. So, Glion's skill was slightly lower than Fuga's. It's also shown that it was actually Fuga who erased Houtarou's memories of Chemies. But was it also him who manipulated all of Houtarou's memories of the past? After all, the truth about Houtarou's dad is still a big mystery. GD reveals that in his timeline, in 5 years Glion will control and ruin half of the world. His world does look like a post-apocalyptic world, like the world where Future Trunks from DBZ came from. GD is surprised when he sees that the form (Fire Gotchard) that's granted when Houtarou uses the Gotchar Igniter is different from his, and concludes that Houtarou has created a new future. Soooo, this scene (and the ones @ 20:33 and @ 21:01) pretty much confirms that GD is indeed a Houtarou that came from an alternate future. Dang, this makes me keep revising my hypothesis, haha. This smells like a potential material for side stories that focuses on GD's back story. It seems like Fire Gotchard has the ability to destroy Glion's custom/golden Malgam's blank slate/core body, similar to KR Drive that can destroy Viral Cores and KR OOO Putotyra Combo that can destroy Core Medals. And, if Fire Gotchard uses fire, will there be other forms that use 4 other classical elements of alchemy (water, air, earth, and aether/the fifth element)? Oh, and a very nice insert song from Rider Chips. Still not a fan of Fire Gotchard's design, haha. Spanner (and Kyouka) are absent in this episode, probably to build up momentum for his big debut as KR Valvarad. I'm curious as to how he or Kyouka will obtain another Gotchar Igniter. Next week: It looks like Spanner and Kyouka are still absent in episode 19. Minato will finally begin his maneuvers. Who exactly is he? Rinne's back story will also be expanded. It seems like she was quite a loner girl until recently. This episode will also be her proper debut as KR Majade. Atropos will resume her business as usual: Mentally torturing Rinne, haha. |
01-15-2024, 01:44 PM | #3 |
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Fire Gotchard's finisher with the chains holding him in place reminds me of Hyper Kabuto's Maximum Hyper Cyclone and Rampage Vulcan's Rampage All Blast. Except those finishers used kinetic force for recoil suppression to stop them moving backwards, whereas Fire Gotchard's chains stop him moving forwards until he finishes charging up his booster to peak level. It was pretty bad*ss!
It's also significant as the first power-up to be created from Houtarou's use of alchemy, bringing his alchemist and Kamen Rider roles together and Gotchar Igniting his motivation to become a big shot alchemist, which he put on his career form that his new homeroom teacher asked for. Huh, turns out I was actually wrong this time about Orange Gotchard being Fuga. Now that I think about the "uh, Rinne?" scene once more following this reveal of future Houtarou, I guess it's the kind of dorky thing that Houtarou might do to try and cover up his identity, to the point of overcompensation. Humorous to know that he's still a lovable goof at 22 years old, even in a dystopian future. Quote:
Glion addresses The Sisters as his beloved dolls, probably derisively, which makes Lachesis visibly irritated, and tells them that their jobs are strictly collecting Chemies. It seems like he views The Sisters and his other homunculi as merely his toys (hence why the blank slates that he created them from do look like dolls), tools, or even slaves. He views them as mere objects for his experiments.
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I hypothesized last week here that the past accessed by Timelord's ability was just a passive, non-interactive "recordings" of the past, but as this episode shows it turns out that I was wrong. Timelord's ability can take someone to the actual past. GD warns Houtarou to never physically contact KH, but they touch @ 10:05, and it only causes Timelord to be strained/injured and makes him and Houtarou unable to stay in the past for too long. I thought that it would cause a self-annihilation or some kind of negative effect. Come on Mr. Kamen Writers, I've prepared for something gruesome like in Timecop, haha. Or probably the negative effect will show up in later episodes?
Poor Spanner doesn't even get invited to join the Kitchen Ichinose Alliance (acronym is KIA, which sounds like a bad omen). I guess nobody likes him enough. Of course, the other sempai members are Renge who's lazy and Sabi who has social anxiety, so Houtarou gets elected as leader. Personally, I would've elected Rinne instead, for her discipline and alchemy experience, especially since she's soon to become a Rider as well.
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01-15-2024, 06:46 PM | #4 |
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Following Minato's betrayal it's the (partly) repeat of first episode.
Houtaro got humiliated in the class even without Rinne taking an act. And there's a scene of them trying to access the Academy door, now it's closed. Geryon's goal sounds similar to Shiori's back then, to reach alchemy beyond what the Academy teaches via the Door of Darkness. But Geryon's the leader, and he's the one who got admired as ambitious by at least Lachesis, like how Shiori admired them. The reveal of the mystery of some characters are answered here with Houtaro's devotion of Chemies based on him already befriending them as a child, but seemingly got his memory erased by Fuga. As well as Fuga revealed to not be bad at all, or even traitorous, it's all Geryon's machinations of memory altering. I thought Fuga can be still good while being traitor due to him freeing the Chemies and going against the awful Academy (still keeps the tradition of the supposedly heroic organization being bad after AIMS, SoL, Fenix, DGP). Houtaro finally is able to perform alchemy by time traveling to the past with the help of TimeLord, due to seeing his past self is able to perform alchemy as well before memory wipe, using the goggles from his past self. Fire Gotchard is simply about speed due to the rocket boost. Houtaro achieving that also inspires his friends to continue collecting Chemies after being despondent before and got captured. They're using the Kitchen Ichinose Alliance as new HQ rather than Kyoka's hideout. Turns out Gotchard Daybreak seems to be future Houtaro, likely using TimeLord too, and I guess his warning about interacting with his past self is about time limit like Daybreak's time being up now, rather than his self being erased. Still though Daybreak is just vague and can potentially miscommuniate in his dialogues....
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01-16-2024, 04:07 PM | #5 |
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Another good episode. I have some complaints about the show's fast pace and the fact that Malgam took Houtarou's friends hostage so recently (even though it was last year), but I can accept that. I like the rest. The two Gotchards are a great team, Fuuga dealt with enemies ten years ago much better than in the first episode and the last battle was great.
They also revealed Houtarou's past to us. Not only was he friends with the Chemies, he was also an alchemist prodigy. And it turns out his father wore glasses. At least some kind of sign. I didn't like the idea of Houtarou from the future, but so far the show has done a pretty good job with time travel. Although the fate of the orange Gotchard is sad, because he either disappeared or returned to his timeline, where Geryon won. (Crazy theory: his timeline is the past of the world of Legend). In the villainous headquarters, the Dark Sisters are growing dissatisfied with Geryon, so a split between them is only a matter of time. Minato, with his amazing humility, reminds me of Snape under Geryon-Voldemort. It's funny how even Houtarou doesn't believe he actually turned against the students. The next episode teases Rinne's first transformation on the show. It's high time, otherwise she and Kamen Rider Valvarad were shown for the first time in the opening. By the way, about Valvarad. It's funny that as soon as he was left without cards, he was not needed even as a hostage. I wonder if they will show us his path to henshin or if he will simply show up as a rider and save the day? |
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