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07-19-2021, 11:19 AM | #11 |
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Honestly, and considering I'm usually just ambivalent towards them, I really think Sabela and Durendal were at their best during the Zenkaiger episode.
For one, not only is Sabela not obsessing over her brother, but we get her brother obssessing over his sister's safety, something we don't get as much Kamen Rider Saber. Honestly, if Saber had stuck with this episode's characterizations of them after they defected from Master Logos, then they wouldn't have been hated as much.
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07-19-2021, 11:49 AM | #12 |
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Why is this crossover more fun the the entirety of Saber?
Also an interesting choice of characters to crossover. You'd expect Kaito to appear in Saber's world or Touma to appear in Zenkaiger's world as per the usual crossovers but this one actually remembered other characters besides the main ones and I think there the fun was giving the spotlight to these characters that don't get to shine as much in their own series. Though if I'd compare the 2 episodes, I think the Zenkaiger episode was the better one. Saber's episode didn't feel like it belonged in the main series and much of the time was wasted on searching for the missing books that were with them all the time, while Zenkaiger's episode felt like any normal episode and didn't feel out of place for it. |
07-19-2021, 12:12 PM | #13 |
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Henve why the Saber one whas labeled Special Chapter wheras the Zenkaiger one was part of the episode count.
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07-19-2021, 03:32 PM | #14 |
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I wonder if that hug was in the script.
But anyway I enjoyed the double bill. I know the Saber section was lacking since it felt like it was with Gaim on how the plot just suddenly stopped, like when Demushu leaped into the real world at the end of the episode, then all of a sudden we have that Kikaider special. I think it shows the weaker aspects of a serialized story telling. But something like Zenkaiger doesn't have that issue, and is able to tell a single story. It's funny to think we get more out of the siblings than we do from the main show. When Gaon was using the Zero One Rider Gear, I half expected him to trip after using it, in spirit with the show. |
07-19-2021, 04:17 PM | #15 |
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From what I could get from the Saber Behind the Scenes page that we usually get. The crew knew about Angela Mei liking Magine, and so the first time the script was written up the scene of, "Reika suddenly hugs Magine" was in it. So yeah, it was in the script since the first draft.
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07-19-2021, 05:32 PM | #16 |
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From what I could get from the Saber Behind the Scenes page that we usually get. The crew knew about Angela Mei liking Magine, and so the first time the script was written up the scene of, "Reika suddenly hugs Magine" was in it. So yeah, it was in the script since the first draft.
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07-20-2021, 10:14 AM | #17 |
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Even when other things get mixed into Zenkaiger it ends up being pure fun. That they could take Durandal's insanely serious nature and actually have him come off light hearted made it worth the watch.
That hug was everything that most of us as fans and the kids I'm sure feel with the characters and story lines. It's like a hug of years of effort and love. Every time the name Orihime was mentioned I was wondering when Ichigo Kurosaki was going to pop up from behind a bush. But ultimately, the best is when you have a running gag between two shows where everyone asks "Do you really need to dance"? Yeah Zox, do ya? Although I will say, for jamming in Super Twokaiser, it wasn't awful. Just jammed. What wasnt....was the Rider gears. I had a moment of squeal watching Zi-Os, Zero-One's and Sabers powers being used. Although I get it, from both time, and from the Rider era, they only have three Riders to go on, it would have made so much sense to just include Build's gear for Vroom. I mean, if you're going to give the scientist Rider power to anyone, Build and Vroom is literally a perfect match. Help me out though. Right at the end of Zenkaiger, the statue at the end...what was that?
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07-20-2021, 10:18 AM | #18 |
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07-20-2021, 03:48 PM | #19 |
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It's neat how instead of the main heroes crossing over, in both of these the "visitors" were the last and most anti-heroic members of their respective hero groups (at least until if/when Stacey turns good). Especially for the Shindai siblings, I hope some of the characterization they got in Zenkaiger carries through when they return to Saber, because this is the best they've ever been. For a second I almost wondered if Reika would choose to stay in the Zenkaigers' world! But I suppose as a swordswoman she has to put her responsibilities first (and I doubt Toei would ever let a crossover special have that big an impact on the status quo).
Also I love how Touma trying to teach Zox about the value of books, which seems like it was supposed to be a wholesome moral to encourage kids to read, ended up making more problems because Zox took it to mean books were worth stealing XD I'd expect nothing less from a world pirate. Quote:
What wasnt....was the Rider gears. I had a moment of squeal watching Zi-Os, Zero-One's and Sabers powers being used. Although I get it, from both time, and from the Rider era, they only have three Riders to go on, it would have made so much sense to just include Build's gear for Vroom. I mean, if you're going to give the scientist Rider power to anyone, Build and Vroom is literally a perfect match.
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07-20-2021, 11:48 PM | #20 |
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Vroom's suit actor was even in Build too! Playing Evol, but ;P
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