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08-25-2020, 08:22 PM | #771 |
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And I'm glad you're getting something out of it! Truly! But again, 30 episodes of this constant go-nowhere character is in no way entertaining for me. Had Mutsuki getting knocked the hell down happened even 5 episodes earlier, I'd be alot softer on it. But as it stands, yeah, no. Get him out of here. There's a tad bit more to it, but it technically qualifies as spoilers, so, we'll come back to it later, I guess.
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Mutsuki also has most certainly not been harmless. Granted, he didn't cause any direct deaths, IIRC, but ever since "embracing darkness" he's actively been a hindrance to, well, everyone. And all while the other characters talk about how they feel sorry for him. Though granted, maybe that was due to Turn-Up Scrubs, because I could definitely see the other characters simply saying they more pitied him than anything.
Yeah, from the Excite subs, it doesn't seem like they're all that into feeling sorry for Mutsuki. There was a point, around the Shima story, where they were very We Have To Help Mutsuki, but now they're pretty much just Eesh Mutski Amirite. There's more of a sense that what happened to him is tragic, and they'd be more than willing to help him redeem himself, but there's really nothing they can do until he decides to change. I don't know if I'd be quite so willing to forgive him, but I get that Tachibana and Kenzaki would.
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08-25-2020, 10:47 PM | #772 |
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KAMEN RIDER BLADE EPISODE 42
This time on Kamen Rider Blade: Mutsuki on a rampage! Tiger Queen at a loss! And a very special guest star arrives to help Mutsuki become a Kamen Rider! This is a weird one to talk about, because I feel like I covered a lot of this in the last episode's discussion? It's the second half of a two-parter, and it's pretty much just about Nozomi, Tiger Queen, and Mutsuki. There's a hat-tip to Kotaro's investigation of Tennouji, and a brief fight scene between Chalice and Scissors Undead, but it's a very isolated look at the same three characters as last time. (Which, man, where was this narrative precision when Hirose needed it? That story couldn't stop tossing in subplots, while this one relegates everyone but the main three subjects, who are all in one plot, to background roles. Hirose deserved better!) Nozomi's story is probably not going to win over anyone who thinks she's wasting her time on a chode like Mutsuki, but I really loved it. It's just her as a Kamen Rider, right? She is going to save someone, and she won't let her fear or anything else stand in her way. She believes in him, and through her faith she's going to redeem him. I mean, that moment where she tells Tiger Queen that she isn't afraid? Epic. (She showed up with more treats for Mutsuki to apologize to him for being scared of him trying to scare her!) It's her dedication to her friend as armor, as a light in the darkness. There is good in him, she knows it, and she's going to keep trying to reach him until he reaches back. That's it. Period. Tiger Queen's story is one I probably shouldn't love. It's her sacrificing herself for Mutsuki's sake, and that can be some loaded storytelling. But it didn't bother me at all. The main reason it worked was because it was about her regaining control over her choices. Tennouji flat out tells her that this Battle Fight is rigged against her. She can either bend the knee to him, the man who has perverted the most important thing in her life, or she can wait to be sealed. There's no victory for her, in terms she understands. So the only thing she can do is set a new term for victory by choosing to seal herself to free Mutsuki from Tennouji's machinations. (She does it by herself! Mutsuki never gets to seal her!) I think she genuinely cares for Mutsuki. I think she sees in him someone who's boxed in by indecision, someone who feels constrained by binary morality. He's always judging himself, too much one thing, not enough the other. Tiger Queen is someone who never gave a shit what anyone thought. She does whatever she wants, however she wants. She tries to give Mutsuki a chance to find some peace, to be less constrained. She wants him to realize that finding peace is a process, not a goal, but that there's worthiness in the struggle. Accepting what's in you, all of the good and all of the bad, that's the lesson she's trying to teach him. I also think she's doing it as a huge Eff You to Tennouji. His plan was to use Mutsuki to wreck the other Riders, and she absolutely hates Tennouji, so why not use the life he's rendered pointless to rip Mutsuki from his grasp? Definitely seems like a Two Birds One Stone situation, doesn't it? But it's not just Tiger Queen giving Mutsuki some added strength, because WAIT WHAT Shima's back! It looks like, thanks to Tachibana's borrowed Absorber and Tiger Queen's sacrifice, the pieces are in place for the Spider Undead to get ejected from Mutsuki's brain and for Mutsuki to finally access Shima's power. It's a fun fight, visually, with the Shima Undead suit switching out with Mutsuki, intermittently. The fight itself is a lot of grappling, but it has a unique hook to it. So, in the end, Mutsuki seals the Spider Undead and... all is forgiven? I guess that can be problematic, depending on how you feel about Mutsuki. It's certainly a fairly big swing, having everyone take pride in Mutsuki's symbolic vanquishing of the darkness within him. It'd mean more if we weren't just told that the shit Mutsuki had recently gotten up to was pretty much all on him, but, hey, getting monsters from eternity out of people's brains is a positive no matter what. As it is, I never felt like Mutsuki was such a villain that you couldn't chalk most of his I Need To Be Stronger antics as, like, youthful indiscretion. He screwed up, people sacrificed to get him back on track, and now he needs to honor that. Between Nozomi, Tiger Queen, and good ol' Shima (that dude has a serenity that is iconic), I bought Mutsuki's redemption. As with anything Mutsuki, your mileage may vary! Next time on Kamen Rider Blade: Kenzaki versus Hajime! Tachibana versus Hajime! It's Rider versus Rider, and I'm not sure I've narrowed this episode description down in any way! Next time on Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Blade: Hyper Battle Video time!
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08-25-2020, 10:57 PM | #773 |
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This is one I'll probably have more to say about later, but for now, let's just celebrate Mukki's redemption the best way I can think of.
Learning Ondul the Easy WEEEEEEI! (#15) It's been a long ride, but we've finally made it to the final installment of Learning Ondul the Easy Way, and who better to close things out with than Mr. Strongest Rider himself, my boy Mukki? His constant declarations of being the strongest throughout the series, combined with his poor track record in combat after his first few episodes, make him just as much of a punching bag for the fans as the characters in the show, inspiring a lot of laughter in the process. This moment from episode 42 in particular gets a lot of love, with the line ore wa saikyou da! being Mukki's most memed quote by far, frequently written in Japanese as 俺は最強(笑)だぁ!, with the parenthetical "笑" after saikyou (strongest) being the kanji for laughter, representing, well, you get the idea. It's basically a must whenever bringing up any of Leangle's dubious boasts. Think of it like saying "oh yeah, Leangle is totally the strongest Rider. (*snicker*)" And unfortunately, that just about covers it for major Blade-related memes I wanted to take a look at. Now, there are countless more minor ones I never touched on, but I think in these 15 lessons, I've covered the best of the best, all-star internet joke material from this show (plus kecchako), and even if you shake your head at this sort of thing, hopefully you at least won't be confused when you see references still being made to these moments years down the line even from right now. Blade is truly the undisputed champion of Kamen Rider memes, and it was a pleasure using this thread as an excuse to explore the adventures of Kenjaki, Dadi, Mukkoro, and, of course, Mukki. We laughed, we learned, and maybe, just maybe, one day we'll even find out why Tachibana-san was watching. But until that day comes, I leave you all with one last gift.
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08-25-2020, 11:06 PM | #774 |
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I appreciated your explanations! +2 Rider Points, and Gentarou Kisaragi applauds your commitment to education. Please adjust your TokuNation scorecard accordingly.
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08-26-2020, 02:18 AM | #775 |
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This is one I'll probably have more to say about later, but for now, let's just celebrate Mukki's redemption the best way I can think of.
Learning Ondul the Easy WEEEEEEI! (#15) It's been a long ride, but we've finally made it to the final installment of Learning Ondul the Easy Way, and who better to close things out with than Mr. Strongest Rider himself, my boy Mukki? His constant declarations of being the strongest throughout the series, combined with his poor track record in combat after his first few episodes, make him just as much of a punching bag for the fans as the characters in the show, inspiring a lot of laughter in the process. This moment from episode 42 in particular gets a lot of love, with the line ore wa saikyou da! being Mukki's most memed quote by far, frequently written in Japanese as 俺は最強(笑)だぁ!, with the parenthetical "笑" after saikyou (strongest) being the kanji for laughter, representing, well, you get the idea. It's basically a must whenever bringing up any of Leangle's dubious boasts. Think of it like saying "oh yeah, Leangle is totally the strongest Rider. (*snicker*)" And unfortunately, that just about covers it for major Blade-related memes I wanted to take a look at. Now, there are countless more minor ones I never touched on, but I think in these 15 lessons, I've covered the best of the best, all-star internet joke material from this show (plus kecchako), and even if you shake your head at this sort of thing, hopefully you at least won't be confused when you see references still being made to these moments years down the line even from right now. Blade is truly the undisputed champion of Kamen Rider memes, and it was a pleasure using this thread as an excuse to explore the adventures of Kenjaki, Dadi, Mukkoro, and, of course, Mukki. We laughed, we learned, and maybe, just maybe, one day we'll even find out why Tachibana-san was watching. But until that day comes, I leave you all with one last gift. Last edited by Mmicb0b; 08-26-2020 at 02:34 AM.. |
08-26-2020, 02:27 AM | #776 |
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Also I know we're WAY PAST That point in the show but this video's way too good to not post
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08-26-2020, 03:40 AM | #777 |
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This is one I'll probably have more to say about later, but for now, let's just celebrate Mukki's redemption the best way I can think of.
Learning Ondul the Easy WEEEEEEI! (#15) It's been a long ride, but we've finally made it to the final installment of Learning Ondul the Easy Way, and who better to close things out with than Mr. Strongest Rider himself, my boy Mukki? His constant declarations of being the strongest throughout the series, combined with his poor track record in combat after his first few episodes, make him just as much of a punching bag for the fans as the characters in the show, inspiring a lot of laughter in the process. This moment from episode 42 in particular gets a lot of love, with the line ore wa saikyou da! being Mukki's most memed quote by far, frequently written in Japanese as 俺は最強(笑)だぁ!, with the parenthetical "笑" after saikyou (strongest) being the kanji for laughter, representing, well, you get the idea. It's basically a must whenever bringing up any of Leangle's dubious boasts. Think of it like saying "oh yeah, Leangle is totally the strongest Rider. (*snicker*)" And unfortunately, that just about covers it for major Blade-related memes I wanted to take a look at. Now, there are countless more minor ones I never touched on, but I think in these 15 lessons, I've covered the best of the best, all-star internet joke material from this show (plus kecchako), and even if you shake your head at this sort of thing, hopefully you at least won't be confused when you see references still being made to these moments years down the line even from right now. Blade is truly the undisputed champion of Kamen Rider memes, and it was a pleasure using this thread as an excuse to explore the adventures of Kenjaki, Dadi, Mukkoro, and, of course, Mukki. We laughed, we learned, and maybe, just maybe, one day we'll even find out why Tachibana-san was watching. But until that day comes, I leave you all with one last gift. Well screw it, I’m doing it anyway. The irony surrounding Mutsuki's weak will throughout most of the series despite Leangle being said to be the strongest Rider has been the subject of mockery and parody, particularly within the Japanese fandom. It is mostly defined by a line he says in episode 42 as he battles the Tiger Undead: I am the strongest! (俺は最強だー! Ore wa saikyō da!) * Many fans also make fun of Leangle being incapable of transforming into Jack or King forms in the series. |
08-26-2020, 05:34 AM | #778 |
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"You did it Mutsuki! You beat him with your own power!"
Except that he like, didn't. In nearly any sense of the statement.
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08-26-2020, 07:32 AM | #779 |
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Yeah, the resolution to the Mutsuki plot and how it intertwines with Tiger Queen deciding to give Tennoji a big "screw you, I make my own destiny" and how Shima's sacrifice finally pays off, it all hit home for me. I was always a fan of Spider-Man 3 Mutsuki just because of how pathetic he was, but there was always a part of me hoping for his redemption, his freedom from the corruption keeping him down. A kid doesn't suddenly start putting spider-webs everywhere without outside influence, you know?
But yeah, I'd heard mixed things about Mustuki, but none of them really wrung true. It just works for me, maybe not in the way that's intentional - we probably weren't meant to find his attempts at being "Saikyou-da!" so lame and funny - but I like him.
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08-26-2020, 08:19 AM | #780 |
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I didn't really care for the climax of this episode. I'm actually in full agreement with you about the Tiger Undead's perspective from this, how this is her way of fighting back in this rigged game, and she gets to help out this weird spider boy at the same time. It's probably the best way for her character to head out!
My issue is with Mutsuki, and maybe this is just me expecting something different from what the show was ultimately heading towards. All that time spent with Mutsuki pursuing strength above all else, and then repeatedly either getting beaten down or being forcibly reminded that he does still have attachments (well, one in the form of Nozomi) that make him 'weak', I thought it was all headed towards him finally realising that no, this path he's on does not have any good end for him and he goes back to being a good guy. For them to instead, in the solution, to paint it all as being the Category King's influence, and that getting rid of that alone is enough to fix everything... It's incredibly lame! It's the least compelling decision they could have made. I know obviously he's always been 'possessed' to some extent, but I was most intrigued by his character when they implied that the Undead's influence was just drawing out his latent dark desires to the surface. So he embraced that darkness, it did nothing good for him, and so then he needs to choose to push it back, and does so with some extra help from Tiger and Shima . As is though, I think he feels fairly uninvolved in how his own plot wraps up. Also it was a while ago by now, but episode 40 is one that sticks out in my mind among Blade just for how all four riders came together to kick butt in that climax. Was literally the only thing I remembered as opposed to all that robot dad stuff. It's kinda like how for a long time, I remembered episode 40 of Faiz ending with all three Riders transforming to the theme song but nothing else about it. |
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