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03-14-2020, 01:42 AM | #15751 |
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Fourze 35-36
Yeah, so I kinda dragged my feet on this one. I watched the first episode ages ago, but just got around to the second tonight. I'm not a huge fan of this arc. There's some really good JK stuff, but the Zodiart is kind of annoying and most of the other supporting characters get very little to do. I regret the choice, though, because 36 ended up being much better than the set-up in 35 led me to think it would be. The scene with Gentarou playing guitar on stage while JK sang was really good. "Gene" is a really stupid name for your rock god alter ego, though. I thought that at the time and it's still true today. This is an arc that really works better on rewatch. The Core Switch is first brought up here and it's something that makes way more sense knowing the full story. It still comes out of left field, but at least I know the context better now. There were some more good explanations for why we're getting only Horoscopes now, too, what with the Kyoto wormhole being closed. The show really did a much better job of justifying the villain upgrade than I remembered. Action scenes were good, too, although Cosmic crapping out when JK temporarily left the KRC feels like a cheap attempt to prolong the story. Not as bad as Machine Chaser in Drive, but the stalling was still palpable. Meteor's continued rivalry with Leo is always fun, though, and I liked both his trick in the second fight and the return of the older Horoscope suits. Next up is an arc I've been looking forward to: the moment when Yuki completely goes off the deep end. |
03-14-2020, 05:02 AM | #15752 |
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You know, it's fun to joke about, but I've never understood why all the Horoscopes popping up towards the end of Fourze was considered an issue by a lot of people. Like you've said, the in-universe explanations of how it was happening check out well enough, and on a more meta level, I always saw the why of it being about escalating the stakes as the story heads for a climax. That part of it is probably arguable in its execution, but even then, I wouldn't begrudge Fourze too much for it. Remember, Ryuki wanted to have proper story arcs for its 13 Riders, and the end result was that there weren't even 13 Riders in the show. So if nothing else, Fourze gets points for remembering it was on a time limit.
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03-14-2020, 10:16 AM | #15753 |
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You know, it's fun to joke about, but I've never understood why all the Horoscopes popping up towards the end of Fourze was considered an issue by a lot of people. Like you've said, the in-universe explanations of how it was happening check out well enough, and on a more meta level, I always saw the why of it being about escalating the stakes as the story heads for a climax. That part of it is probably arguable in its execution, but even then, I wouldn't begrudge Fourze too much for it. Remember, Ryuki wanted to have proper story arcs for its 13 Riders, and the end result was that there weren't even 13 Riders in the show. So if nothing else, Fourze gets points for remembering it was on a time limit.
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03-15-2020, 12:40 PM | #15754 |
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I meant to do it not long after Blade since that was my last Heisei Rider, but I finally got around to rewatching Heisei Generations Final. I think the combination of it being a rewatch, a bigger time commitment than an episode and Three Houses existing is what put it off for so long...
But I'm glad I got around to it, because it's even better than I remember! A lot of it is just dumb fun, but goddamn, it's fun. The final half hour in particular has just so much love and care stuffed in there that despite Den-O and Build being the only real returning actors, you still get a real sense of, like, Ryuki and Hibiki and Fourze are really back! The voice clips are used well, the choreography and effects are well done, all of them get to show off what's special about them (as well as Agito using elbow light beams...?) that makes the whole thing feel special. Like, you know, a celebration or something! Wonder why! The plot is weird and if you try to figure it out for even two seconds your brain'll shut down, and the villain is pretty terrible and lacking definition. But despite that, it all feels good to watch while you're watching, and it doesn't bother me too much. Just a great excuse for all the Heisei Riders to beat up a giant monster and save the day!
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03-15-2020, 03:42 PM | #15755 |
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You mean FOREVER, right? I'm agreement in that after re-watching for the heck of it a little while ago, I am actually more fond of it than I was the first time, and I already liked it the first time. Lots of movies have done the thing about bringing back a whole bunch of suits, but this movie's sequences in particular really made it feel like a special showcase of Rider history. Also the twenty rider kicks in the final fight will probably be one of, if not my favourite scenes ever (even despite Kuuga's really wonky CG...)!
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03-15-2020, 05:10 PM | #15756 |
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You mean FOREVER, right? I'm agreement in that after re-watching for the heck of it a little while ago, I am actually more fond of it than I was the first time, and I already liked it the first time. Lots of movies have done the thing about bringing back a whole bunch of suits, but this movie's sequences in particular really made it feel like a special showcase of Rider history. Also the twenty rider kicks in the final fight will probably be one of, if not my favourite scenes ever (even despite Kuuga's really wonky CG...)!
But yes, this is 100% what every 'all riders' gathering should have been. The SHTs and the like were really fond of using random rider and final boss monster suits and just having them punch and kick normally as if that would be a cool thing to see, but FOREVER gets it right. It KNOWS what makes each of these Riders' fighting styles and abilities special and what'll hit that right nostalgic note for people. I don't wanna see Wizard punch the Utopia Dopant with as much interest and excitement as paint drying; I want to see him flipping and whirling with fire shooting everywhere! I don't care to see Blade get kicked down by some Grongi after doing nothing but flailing with the Blay Rouzer, I want to see him use his Rouze Cards for cool as hell finishers! It took until this movie to really realise that somehow, and lo and behold; it's wonderful to watch!
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03-16-2020, 08:23 AM | #15757 |
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Well, I just watched Over Quartzer.
That was... an experience. I really, really don't know how to put it aside from that. It's bizarre in all the ways you don't expect, and I kind of loved it, but my brain's still kind of going crazy from it!
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03-19-2020, 11:48 PM | #15758 |
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The rewatch of episodes 31-40 of Blade took way longer than I would've liked; My job has been killing me with the overtime since the virus scare started. It also didn't help that this was the chunk of the show I was least looking forward to re-experiencing(new subs or not).
Because the thing is, to me personally, this is probably the weakest chunk of Blade. Tachibana's' character seems to regress a bit, Mutsuki's' character arc continues to drag on for way too long, and sorry to say, but I really don't jive well with Trial B's' plot and the sudden reveal of who orders him around is. That said, there are some highlights. Hajime's' character arc comes to a very satisfactory close, Kenzaki continues to be one of my favorite protagonists in the franchise, and Mutsuki getting karate chopped in the neck with simultaneously hilarious as it is awesome. But yeah, just one more chunk to go and then I'll start shotgunning through Kamen Rider 1. Sorry Forze, but supporting an official release comes first. Gotta help secure those DVD releases. |
03-20-2020, 09:19 PM | #15759 |
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Toei has the new channel starting April 6th so I'll catch most of their shows on You Tube next Month.
I may start with Rider 71 and the 75 Ranger show. So I'll be watching both lines from week 1 next month. |
03-20-2020, 10:41 PM | #15760 |
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Well right now I'm in the middle to end of ghost and I'm just starting drive and in the middle of Den-o
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